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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 10, 2020 14:16:02 GMT
Just use var and a hooter😊
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2020 18:42:30 GMT
Was going to start a new thread but feel it can/should go in here.
Why are the club - and they're not alone by the way - refusing to issue refund against individual match tickets?
My colleague isn't earning a great deal and has been put on Furlough and they won't refund his ticket to the Fulham match.
Doesn’t seem right or fair to me
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 12, 2020 19:01:47 GMT
Cos like most business,money better in their account than yours at this time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2020 19:12:09 GMT
Cos like most business,money better in their account than yours at this time. They have a lot more money than my mate! You're right though, they're going to milk it for the interest all the ticket sales that they have made earn the most possible.
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Post by BrightonR on Apr 16, 2020 9:10:37 GMT
Interesting stuff going on in Scotland.
Partick being relegated when winning their game in hand would have seen them out of the relegation spot, being one.
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Post by Rangers77 on Apr 16, 2020 9:17:21 GMT
The ELF will tolerate this shit?
BBC: One idea being pushed forward again is to promote current Championship top two Leeds and West Brom, not relegate anyone from the top flight and go with a 22-team competition, which would increase the number of TV games and potentially avoid the need to repay this season's broadcast money.
PL is vile. It must be smashed. As are so many of the players
NO DEAL Arsenal squad vote AGAINST £25m pay cut – despite incentives – as financial woes mount during COVID-19 crisis. 12 percent.....
The price of tattoos, xboxes, headphones, and paying girls for various types of group sex is a considerable expense, I guess.
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Post by coneysboots on Apr 16, 2020 9:55:37 GMT
The price of tattoos, xboxes, headphones, and paying girls for various types of group sex is a considerable expense, I guess. Yeah, that's gone right through the roof
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Apr 16, 2020 10:06:11 GMT
The ELF will tolerate this shit? BBC: One idea being pushed forward again is to promote current Championship top two Leeds and West Brom, not relegate anyone from the top flight and go with a 22-team competition, which would increase the number of TV games and potentially avoid the need to repay this season's broadcast money. PL is vile. It must be smashed. As are so many of the players NO DEAL Arsenal squad vote AGAINST £25m pay cut – despite incentives – as financial woes mount during COVID-19 crisis. 12 percent..... The price of tattoos, xboxes, headphones, and paying girls for various types of group sex is a considerable expense, I guess. Yes, and not even tax-deductible
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Post by spongeparr on Apr 16, 2020 10:17:53 GMT
Cos like most business,money better in their account than yours at this time. They have a lot more money than my mate! You're right though, they're going to milk it for the interest all the ticket sales that they have made earn the most possible. I bought Charlton away and have a home ST. As someone else has pointed out before, they will offer refunds once the game has been re arranged. If you can't make the new date then you would get a refund.
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Post by James1979 on Apr 16, 2020 18:03:18 GMT
Interesting stuff going on in Scotland. Partick being relegated when winning their game in hand would have seen them out of the relegation spot, being one. They should just finish the season whenever that is. And new one starts after. If people don’t get a holiday....boo fucking hoo.
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Post by esoxlucius on Apr 17, 2020 9:16:20 GMT
Interesting stuff going on in Scotland. Partick being relegated when winning their game in hand would have seen them out of the relegation spot, being one. They should just finish the season whenever that is. And new one starts after. If people don’t get a holiday....boo fucking hoo. Playing Devil's Advocate here, how much pre season training will they need before being ready to perform to their best? How many teams have players who are not currently in the country due to lockdown in the countries they are in? How much of the NHS and emergency services should be set aside for football when there is already such a shortage of frontline workers they are trying to get people out of retirement to help? Assuming every person who will be at these "behind closed doors" matches has to be tested and cleared for C-19 before a ball is kicked, how wrong is it to use those tests when there are so many more deserving of that test? Without the use of a crystal ball it is impossible to know just when the deaths will cease, or a viable vaccine created, but I would be surprised if it was anytime before the start of the next season. More and more we are seeing the various leagues being voided and I suspect that eventually that is what will happen throughout the divisions, including the EPL, otherwise there will be legal backlashes for years. I know the club have said they will honour any outstanding tickets bought, including S/T's, but if it meant the difference between me losing a few hundred £££'s or QPR going out of business I think I would rather see the club stay in business.
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Post by BrightonR on Apr 17, 2020 9:28:59 GMT
Not in the least bit bothered about any refund on my ST. By far the best outcome is if we are all alive in order to be able to buy another one.
In fact, thinking about it, the club didn't actually take any money from my account this month, so fair play to them. Didn’t even need asking. 👍🍺
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Apr 17, 2020 9:30:29 GMT
They should just finish the season whenever that is. And new one starts after. If people don’t get a holiday....boo fucking hoo. Playing Devil's Advocate here, how much pre season training will they need before being ready to perform to their best? How many teams have players who are not currently in the country due to lockdown in the countries they are in? How much of the NHS and emergency services should be set aside for football when there is already such a shortage of frontline workers they are trying to get people out of retirement to help? Assuming every person who will be at these "behind closed doors" matches has to be tested and cleared for C-19 before a ball is kicked, how wrong is it to use those tests when there are so many more deserving of that test? Without the use of a crystal ball it is impossible to know just when the deaths will cease, or a viable vaccine created, but I would be surprised if it was anytime before the start of the next season. More and more we are seeing the various leagues being voided and I suspect that eventually that is what will happen throughout the divisions, including the EPL, otherwise there will be legal backlashes for years. I know the club have said they will honour any outstanding tickets bought, including S/T's, but if it meant the difference between me losing a few hundred £££'s or QPR going out of business I think I would rather see the club stay in business. Good post esox. However, I would say that assuming (and it is a big assumption) we get up to 100k tests by the end of April then I don't think it should be a problem using some of those tests on football squads and incidental staff. By the time we are ready to start then there should be adequate tests for NHS staff, carers etc. The goodwill benefit to the nation of starting some sport shouldn't be underestimated imo.
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Post by 72bus on Apr 17, 2020 12:10:22 GMT
Only this morning my mate was asking me can I refund him for the 2 tickets I bought him for Fulham game so I did , I emailed the BO to ask for my £ back , I await their reply ... I don't care if I don't get anything back for our remaining fixtures at home as season will now be played behind closed doors and it's safety first I agree .. I've already paid for next seasons ST did that in Jan/Feb before we knew all this would happen .
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Post by West Acton on Apr 17, 2020 17:43:55 GMT
Not in the least bit bothered about any refund on my ST. By far the best outcome is if we are all alive in order to be able to buy another one. In fact, thinking about it, the club didn't actually take any money from my account this month, so fair play to them. Didn’t even need asking. 👍🍺 feel exactly the same not fussed if I get refund or not
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Post by 72bus on Apr 17, 2020 18:23:46 GMT
Club got back to me , BO staff furloughed but I will get refund in time
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Post by James1979 on Apr 18, 2020 10:25:07 GMT
They should just finish the season whenever that is. And new one starts after. If people don’t get a holiday....boo fucking hoo. Playing Devil's Advocate here, how much pre season training will they need before being ready to perform to their best? How many teams have players who are not currently in the country due to lockdown in the countries they are in? How much of the NHS and emergency services should be set aside for football when there is already such a shortage of frontline workers they are trying to get people out of retirement to help? Assuming every person who will be at these "behind closed doors" matches has to be tested and cleared for C-19 before a ball is kicked, how wrong is it to use those tests when there are so many more deserving of that test? Without the use of a crystal ball it is impossible to know just when the deaths will cease, or a viable vaccine created, but I would be surprised if it was anytime before the start of the next season. More and more we are seeing the various leagues being voided and I suspect that eventually that is what will happen throughout the divisions, including the EPL, otherwise there will be legal backlashes for years. I know the club have said they will honour any outstanding tickets bought, including S/T's, but if it meant the difference between me losing a few hundred £££'s or QPR going out of business I think I would rather see the club stay in business. Yes all fair points. However, season should restart whenever medical advice says they can play - with crowds or without. If that is May, July, October....doesn’t matter. Then make next season 50% of games. Next season should start whenever the current one is finished. Maybe give players, 2-3 weeks off.
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Post by hubble on Apr 18, 2020 11:22:40 GMT
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Post by BrightonR on Apr 18, 2020 11:43:59 GMT
Playing Devil's Advocate here, how much pre season training will they need before being ready to perform to their best? How many teams have players who are not currently in the country due to lockdown in the countries they are in? How much of the NHS and emergency services should be set aside for football when there is already such a shortage of frontline workers they are trying to get people out of retirement to help? Assuming every person who will be at these "behind closed doors" matches has to be tested and cleared for C-19 before a ball is kicked, how wrong is it to use those tests when there are so many more deserving of that test? Without the use of a crystal ball it is impossible to know just when the deaths will cease, or a viable vaccine created, but I would be surprised if it was anytime before the start of the next season. More and more we are seeing the various leagues being voided and I suspect that eventually that is what will happen throughout the divisions, including the EPL, otherwise there will be legal backlashes for years. I know the club have said they will honour any outstanding tickets bought, including S/T's, but if it meant the difference between me losing a few hundred £££'s or QPR going out of business I think I would rather see the club stay in business. Yes all fair points. However, season should restart whenever medical advice says they can play - with crowds or without. If that is May, July, October....doesn’t matter. Then make next season 50% of games. Next season should start whenever the current one is finished. Maybe give players, 2-3 weeks off. Surely we could finish the season whenever and have one shorter season whereby teams only play each other once, in order to enable them to get back to complete normality the season after. Having said that, what the hell is normality going to look like on the other side of this? I expect it to have changed in many ways. It’d be quite refreshing for the leagues and clubs to start thinking about enforced salary caps, clubs needing to operate within their means etc., or face the possibility of complete closure, like other sectors. I’m sure if £10k pw maximums were the option as opposed to no professional football, arms could be twisted. 😂 It’d be interesting to know how football fans reacted to the curtailment of the 1939-40 season, when only 3 games had been played. Would it have been much different had we entered the war the following March? I guess back then many people were more likely to have seen things in perspective? The wikipedia page for all the leagues that season are here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1939–40_Football_LeagueWe drew 2-2 with a team known as Bournemouth and Boscombe !! 😂 EDIT: Interesting page here too: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1939–40_in_English_footballAnother “Honour” we probably weren’t aware of. 😂
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Post by esoxlucius on Apr 18, 2020 19:15:15 GMT
Wouldn't teams who had the twelve games at home not be at an unfair advantage to those who will only have eleven in a twentythree game season?
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Post by James1979 on Apr 18, 2020 19:17:53 GMT
Wouldn't teams who had the twelve games at home not be at an unfair advantage to those who will only have eleven in a twentythree game season? Yes but it’s luck of the draw. Exceptional situation, everyone needs to adapt and just get on with it. Or we squeeze season into less months by sacking off league cup and doing games Saturday, Wednesday
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Post by esoxlucius on Apr 18, 2020 19:23:03 GMT
Wouldn't teams who had the twelve games at home not be at an unfair advantage to those who will only have eleven in a twentythree game season? Yes but it’s luck of the draw. Exceptional situation, everyone needs to adapt and just get on with it. Or we squeeze season into less months by sacking off league cup and doing games Saturday, Wednesday If we are ready to go again around September /October then sack this season off and play next season completely, even if it runs into the Summer.
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Post by BrightonR on Apr 18, 2020 20:42:07 GMT
Yes but it’s luck of the draw. Exceptional situation, everyone needs to adapt and just get on with it. Or we squeeze season into less months by sacking off league cup and doing games Saturday, Wednesday If we are ready to go again around September /October then sack this season off and play next season completely, even if it runs into the Summer. I think the issue is that it’s easier to have a new competition with slightly different rules, than cancel all the hard work and effort put in so far. Leeds aside, obviously. 😂
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Post by James1979 on Apr 18, 2020 20:55:27 GMT
Completely agree. Got to finish this season.
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Post by esoxlucius on Apr 19, 2020 8:04:50 GMT
If we are ready to go again around September /October then sack this season off and play next season completely, even if it runs into the Summer. I think the issue is that it’s easier to have a new competition with slightly different rules, than cancel all the hard work and effort put in so far. Leeds aside, obviously. 😂 I think the main problem with that solution will be the swathes of legal actions from clubs who have already had their seasons sacked off, including some who had already won promotion. IMO, it will be easier for ALL leagues to be voided in line with action already taken. This would also have the benefits of giving the clubs longer to prepare when this is over and the frontline emergency personnel the chance to devote all their efforts into stemming the wave of deaths from C-19.
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Post by esoxlucius on Apr 19, 2020 8:07:10 GMT
Completely agree. Got to finish this season. Without making this sound confrontational, which isn't my intention, why? From a personal point of view, I may lose the cost of 9 home match tickets but that would be small beer in the context of why I may have to lose my money.
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Post by James1979 on Apr 19, 2020 8:42:37 GMT
Completely agree. Got to finish this season. Without making this sound confrontational, which isn't my intention, why? From a personal point of view, I may lose the cost of 9 home match tickets but that would be small beer in the context of why I may have to lose my money. It’s not confrontational at all. It’s got nothing to do with cost. We’re 80% through season. Lot of effort from all sides to get to positions their in. The only way to decide who goes up and down is to finish the season. Why does it matter when the next season starts? It should only start when the current season finishes.....whenever that is.
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Post by esoxlucius on Apr 19, 2020 9:28:12 GMT
Without making this sound confrontational, which isn't my intention, why? From a personal point of view, I may lose the cost of 9 home match tickets but that would be small beer in the context of why I may have to lose my money. It’s not confrontational at all. It’s got nothing to do with cost. We’re 80% through season. Lot of effort from all sides to get to positions their in. The only way to decide who goes up and down is to finish the season. Why does it matter when the next season starts? It should only start when the current season finishes.....whenever that is. So reverse the situation with all the leagues who have had their seasons, and promotions, voided?
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Post by James1979 on Apr 19, 2020 9:41:33 GMT
Why reverse them after 80% complete? Why rush to start next season? What happens if this thing comes back again? Just finish this season and then think about the next one.
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Post by esoxlucius on Apr 19, 2020 9:53:55 GMT
Why reverse them after 80% complete? Why rush to start next season? What happens if this thing comes back again? Just finish this season and then think about the next one. Are you aware that all non league teams had their results voided and there were three teams who had already achieved automatic promotion?
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