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Post by Shania on Jul 25, 2019 12:30:40 GMT
Agree, it could mean that we are still in for him, but a poster on WATRB stated that we were not willing to offer more money now. Shame if it`s true - Point is, I see him as a player who can advise BOS and Shopido. Eze and Chair also.. Besides; He can take a free kick..
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 25, 2019 13:00:36 GMT
Agree, it could mean that we are still in for him, but a poster on WATRB stated that we were not willing to offer more money now. Shame if it`s true - Point is, I see him as a player who can advise BOS and Shopido. Eze and Chair also.. Besides; He can take a free kick.. I wonder what Ipswich are holding out for. Heard some reports say 1m, others 750k. Either way, wouldn't pay it. We genuinely don't have that kind of money spare, and between his age and injury record Judge has little or no resale value!
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Post by Shania on Jul 25, 2019 13:23:56 GMT
Agree, it could mean that we are still in for him, but a poster on WATRB stated that we were not willing to offer more money now. Shame if it`s true - Point is, I see him as a player who can advise BOS and Shopido. Eze and Chair also.. Besides; He can take a free kick.. I wonder what Ipswich are holding out for. Heard some reports say 1m, others 750k. Either way, wouldn't pay it. We genuinely don't have that kind of money spare, and between his age and injury record Judge has little or no resale value! I think it was 1M, initially. Now, more like 750K or so. I agree he has no resale vaue, but I feel we badly need experience attacking wise and I`m sure if we could have cashed in on Luongo, we would have had the 1k, I feel we are lacking to get this transfer through. Selling Luongo(Leistner also?) is in itself maybe a loss, but imo he is too often away on duty with his national team and when he returns he needs to time to get fit again. Not sure who we should turn to as a target now really. Scott Hogan might be an an option, he is a quite lively striker but not a playmaker type of guy ?
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Jul 25, 2019 13:25:13 GMT
I am really not bothered if we sign him. I would rather not to be honest.
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Post by Corbray on Jul 25, 2019 13:36:16 GMT
I am really not bothered if we sign him. I would rather not to be honest. same here. i don't really see the point in wasting money on a guy who has been injured for the last 3 years when we should be looking to sign someone from abroad for less money with resale value
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 25, 2019 13:42:37 GMT
same here. i don't really see the point in wasting money on a guy who has been injured for the last 3 years when we should be looking to sign someone from abroad for less money with resale value Again, where is the evidence of our Pan-European scouting network? The club have always told us that this operates in tandem with the academy, and we have scouts on the payroll for this purpose. For example, who 'found' Leistner last season? McClaren? Butterworth? Penrice?........
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Post by Shania on Jul 25, 2019 14:01:24 GMT
same here. i don't really see the point in wasting money on a guy who has been injured for the last 3 years when we should be looking to sign someone from abroad for less money with resale value Again, where is the evidence of our Pan-European scouting network? The club have always told us that this operates in tandem with the academy, and we have scouts on the payroll for this purpose. For example, who 'found' Leistner last season? McClaren? Butterworth? Penrice?........ The lack of a scouting network is why Warburton and his contacts are so important to us short term.
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 25, 2019 14:06:20 GMT
same here. i don't really see the point in wasting money on a guy who has been injured for the last 3 years when we should be looking to sign someone from abroad for less money with resale value Again, where is the evidence of our Pan-European scouting network? The club have always told us that this operates in tandem with the academy, and we have scouts on the payroll for this purpose. For example, who 'found' Leistner last season? McClaren? Butterworth? Penrice?........ I'm sure we have someone looking at the continent mate. In recent years we've signed Chair, Leistner & Deng, all of whom had no prior links to the UK. You'd have to say though, if that is the total return for even 1 member of staff that focuses fully on Europe, it's a poor return. More likely we have relationships with a couple of freelancers who get a 1 off fee if they recommend someone we end up signing. Either way, I'm sure we have nothing robust enough in place for the sort of volume/calibre of signings Corbs is talking about.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 25, 2019 14:35:44 GMT
I'm sure we have someone looking at the continent mate. In recent years we've signed Chair, Leistner & Deng, all of whom had no prior links to the UK. You'd have to say though, if that is the total return for even 1 member of staff that focuses fully on Europe, it's a poor return. More likely we have relationships with a couple of freelancers who get a 1 off fee if they recommend some we end up signing. Either way, I'm sure we have nothing robust enough in place for the sort of volume/calibre of signings Corbs is talking about. Which begs the question: "Why not?" As doing that is certainly no breach of FFP, and neither is putting it in place something the owners could by any stretch not afford. They say they'd love to spend money if the rules allowed them to. Well here is the opportunity to do so!
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 25, 2019 14:49:44 GMT
I'm sure we have someone looking at the continent mate. In recent years we've signed Chair, Leistner & Deng, all of whom had no prior links to the UK. You'd have to say though, if that is the total return for even 1 member of staff that focuses fully on Europe, it's a poor return. More likely we have relationships with a couple of freelancers who get a 1 off fee if they recommend some we end up signing. Either way, I'm sure we have nothing robust enough in place for the sort of volume/calibre of signings Corbs is talking about. Which begs the question: "Why not?" As doing that is certainly no breach of FFP, and neither is putting it in place something the owners could by any stretch not afford. They say they'd love to spend money if the rules allowed them to. Well here is the opportunity to do so! I suppose it depends what you are proposing mate. Are you suggesting having a scout constantly travelling around Europe scouting players? If so, that's not a particularly cheap member of staff to have on your books between salary, hotels, flights, expenses etc. If every penny is being scrutinised (which I'm sure it is), I'd doubt we'd have someone like this on the payroll. Even if the justification was they would pay for themselves, if they were bringing just 1 bargain to the table every window!
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 25, 2019 14:58:27 GMT
Are you suggesting having a scout constantly travelling around Europe scouting players? Perhaps not constantly, but certainly regularly! For the owners' combined wealth the expense would be loose change but with good scouts, potentially a v profitable investment, especially given our predicament. And it wouldn't breach FFP either.
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Post by Shania on Jul 25, 2019 15:27:57 GMT
I'm sure we have someone looking at the continent mate. In recent years we've signed Chair, Leistner & Deng, all of whom had no prior links to the UK. You'd have to say though, if that is the total return for even 1 member of staff that focuses fully on Europe, it's a poor return. More likely we have relationships with a couple of freelancers who get a 1 off fee if they recommend some we end up signing. Either way, I'm sure we have nothing robust enough in place for the sort of volume/calibre of signings Corbs is talking about. Which begs the question: "Why not?" As doing that is certainly no breach of FFP, and neither is putting it in place something the owners could by any stretch not afford. They say they'd love to spend money if the rules allowed them to. Well here is the opportunity to do so! That`s partly why we are considered to be a not very well run club. And of course have been so for a very long time now.
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Post by Corbray on Jul 25, 2019 16:17:47 GMT
same here. i don't really see the point in wasting money on a guy who has been injured for the last 3 years when we should be looking to sign someone from abroad for less money with resale value Again, where is the evidence of our Pan-European scouting network? The club have always told us that this operates in tandem with the academy, and we have scouts on the payroll for this purpose. For example, who 'found' Leistner last season? McClaren? Butterworth? Penrice?........ les has mentioned it a few times in numerous interviews that they are tracking guys from france and germany and that it's penrice's job to look at players that freelance european scouts inform him about. not just how good they are but their character too, he goes and meets their families etc.
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 25, 2019 16:22:54 GMT
Again, where is the evidence of our Pan-European scouting network? The club have always told us that this operates in tandem with the academy, and we have scouts on the payroll for this purpose. For example, who 'found' Leistner last season? McClaren? Butterworth? Penrice?........ les has mentioned it a few times in numerous interviews that they are tracking guys from france and germany and that it's penrice's job to look at players that freelance european scouts inform him about. not just how good they are but their character too, he goes and meets their families etc. Great, a group of European based Freelancers, feeding back to a UK based Freelancer, feeding back to the club. Couldn't make it up, could you?!!
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Post by Shania on Jul 26, 2019 8:15:00 GMT
Rhodes and/or Hogan will probably not come to QPR according to rumours..
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 26, 2019 8:21:25 GMT
Rhodes and/or Hogan will probably not come to QPR according to rumours.. What have you heard about Hogan Shania?
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 26, 2019 9:27:02 GMT
Rumours circulating about Deng going to Doncaster on loan.
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Post by Hitman34 on Jul 26, 2019 10:40:40 GMT
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 26, 2019 10:42:35 GMT
The correct decision in my opinion. Regardless of whether this represents a fair price for Judge or not, we simply can't afford to drop that kind of money on 1 player this window!
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Post by esoxlucius on Jul 26, 2019 10:51:32 GMT
I am starting a rumour that Gareth Bale is going to register to play with us until RM can sell him. If anyone asks I'll say I saw it on Twitter.
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Post by Hitman34 on Jul 26, 2019 12:13:50 GMT
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 26, 2019 12:21:07 GMT
This would be a very good signing on a free!
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Post by hertshoops on Jul 26, 2019 12:55:59 GMT
Is this O'Rourke ITK ?
Is this Kane any good ? Personaly never heard of him
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Post by Corbray on Jul 26, 2019 13:26:50 GMT
Is this O'Rourke ITK ? Is this Kane any good ? Personaly never heard of him decent RB at this level. a modern day fullback who's a bit like jake bidwell except better with the ball and tracking back. would be an upgrade on furlong imo
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Post by West Acton on Jul 26, 2019 13:41:37 GMT
Loads of decent kids in academy’s I’m guessing plenty of us have no idea about but who are more then capable
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Post by Shania on Jul 26, 2019 13:53:43 GMT
Rhodes and/or Hogan will probably not come to QPR according to rumours.. What have you heard about Hogan Shania? Wages is apparently the issue . Swede on WATRB says so...
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Post by Maidstone_Hoop on Jul 26, 2019 13:57:51 GMT
O'kane will be solid signing. Sterling was the more exciting option imo but O'kane has played a lot of champ football and will atleast be a contracted player.
The comparison to Bidwell is pretty decent. Will give us a solid 6 or 7 out of 10 every week.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Jul 26, 2019 14:20:43 GMT
It's a great name for a footballer as well, so it is a yes from me.
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Post by davieqpr on Jul 26, 2019 15:13:10 GMT
Kane managed to play 41 games for Hull last season so no sicknote.
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Post by Hitman34 on Jul 26, 2019 15:23:23 GMT
Kane managed to play 41 games for Hull last season so no sicknote. makes you wonder why they are not in for him. maybe its just a case of him not wanting to play up north.
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