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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 8, 2020 19:40:46 GMT
Watkins cost Brentford £1.8 million including add on's and we paid 2.75 million for Washington. Not only do we need to develop our own but our recruitment needs to be better as that has been flawed barring 6 months under Holloway since day one under the current owners.
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Post by The General on Jul 8, 2020 19:43:27 GMT
We need to recruit for a team to challenge for the top six otherwise it's all a waste of time is it not
Buy some players to challenge or sell up
Another season of low level football is mind numbing
It's so un inspiring for all the fans and unfair
Yes it's a great job balancing the books but just to survive every season is not what ambition is
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 8, 2020 19:45:24 GMT
We need to recruit for a team to challenge for the top six otherwise it's all a waste of time is it not Buy some players to challenge or sell up Another season of low level football is mind numbing It's so un inspiring for all the fans and unfair Yes it's a great job balancing the books but just to survive every season is not what ambition is Unfortunately General that is all we can hope for under this board. When was the last time we had a spinsorship deal under them? |
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Post by The General on Jul 8, 2020 19:52:02 GMT
It's like the owners have all given up on the club
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Post by The General on Jul 8, 2020 19:54:57 GMT
I agree that they have done an amazing job on the finances but the owners do not have any ambition to take the club forward now
Next season will be the same mid to low table shit all season or relegation
Hardly any fans will turn out next season as it's so shit to watch and I don't blame them
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 8, 2020 20:10:37 GMT
If that Bellingham goes for £20M or whatever it is being quoted then Eze has got to be a fair whack alone aint he ? I just see a player with huge skill who coasts. The more I see of him the more I see flaws ie today everytime he got ball he turned back towards goal. Why would you do that when your game changer. Perhaps it’s just confidence but he blows hot and cold. Can’t take a decent free kick or corner that’s just basic hand on heart if I was prem club watching I would not offer more then 8mil Tops breaks my heart to say that but it’s honest view Wests, he was a totally different player before the lockdown. Just look at his goals and assists stats. Absolutely shadow of that player since the restart. Saying that, you could say similar about most of the other players too. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 8, 2020 20:22:54 GMT
I just see a player with huge skill who coasts. The more I see of him the more I see flaws ie today everytime he got ball he turned back towards goal. Why would you do that when your game changer. Perhaps it’s just confidence but he blows hot and cold. Can’t take a decent free kick or corner that’s just basic hand on heart if I was prem club watching I would not offer more then 8mil Tops breaks my heart to say that but it’s honest view Wests, he was a totally different player before the lockdown. Just look at his goals and assists stats. Absolutely shadow of that player since the restart. Saying that, you could say similar about most of the other players too. Eze is playing with some very limited players in the middle of the pitch and with a strike force that do not move off the ball but still looks a class act. I am with Stan before lockdown he was decent and would be worth a punt by a top half PL team for the 15 plus being bandied around |
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Post by West Acton on Jul 8, 2020 20:42:46 GMT
I just see a player with huge skill who coasts. The more I see of him the more I see flaws ie today everytime he got ball he turned back towards goal. Why would you do that when your game changer. Perhaps it’s just confidence but he blows hot and cold. Can’t take a decent free kick or corner that’s just basic hand on heart if I was prem club watching I would not offer more then 8mil Tops breaks my heart to say that but it’s honest view Wests, he was a totally different player before the lockdown. Just look at his goals and assists stats. Absolutely shadow of that player since the restart. Saying that, you could say similar about most of the other players too. fair point |
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Post by West Acton on Jul 8, 2020 20:44:24 GMT
Personally don’t think top half prem side will be seriously interested even on pre CVD Form but happy to be wrong if it generates Money for us
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 8, 2020 21:06:44 GMT
Let's see Westy. Given everything that's going on at the moment, reasonably priced, homegrown talent might be more attractive than in previous transfer windows.
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 8, 2020 21:35:01 GMT
Personally don’t think top half prem side will be seriously interested even on pre CVD Form but happy to be wrong if it generates Money for us Has the ability and with coaching/guidance and good players around him think he could do well at a Wolves for example. |
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Post by awin on Jul 8, 2020 22:39:10 GMT
Personally don’t think top half prem side will be seriously interested even on pre CVD Form but happy to be wrong if it generates Money for us Has the ability and with coaching/guidance and good players around him think he could do well at a Wolves for example. I feel Leicester might be the perfect next club for him when he has to go. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 8, 2020 22:51:01 GMT
Has the ability and with coaching/guidance and good players around him think he could do well at a Wolves for example. I feel Leicester might be the perfect next club for him when he has to go. [ Agree and forgot about Brendan at Leicester. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Jul 9, 2020 8:52:12 GMT
Let's see Westy. Given everything that's going on at the moment, reasonably priced, homegrown talent might be more attractive than in previous transfer windows. I have to agree with Westy on this one - a rare occurrence - I don't see either BOS or Eze as prem players, certainly not top six/eight when you look at Jones or Greenwood for example. They may develop but to make an impact you have to hit the ground running and stake a claim or be like Sessengnon and go backwards/disappear while you 'develop' in a rotating squad. I think we'll all be disappointed in what we get for them. |
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Post by BrightonR on Jul 9, 2020 9:35:52 GMT
Let's see Westy. Given everything that's going on at the moment, reasonably priced, homegrown talent might be more attractive than in previous transfer windows. I have to agree with Westy on this one - a rare occurrence - I don't see either BOS or Eze as prem players, certainly not top six/eight when you look at Jones or Greenwood for example. They may develop but to make an impact you have to hit the ground running and stake a claim or be like Sessengnon and go backwards/disappear while you 'develop' in a rotating squad. I think we'll all be disappointed in what we get for them. Have to agree with this. Very occasionally they will have really good games, but neither seems to be able to consistently have a big impact on games in this division, so I really cannot see how they would against higher quality opposition. Far too many players, have much poorer careers in terms of achievements and respect, due to chasing the money. Those two simply wouldn’t be given the opportunities to learn and progress in the modern premier league, whereas with us, provided the manager sorts out our tactics and game management, not only would they prosper over the next couple of years, but then be ready to take their rightful places in the top league, if they hadn’t already got there with us. |
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Post by acricketer on Jul 9, 2020 9:54:12 GMT
I have to agree with Westy on this one - a rare occurrence - I don't see either BOS or Eze as prem players, certainly not top six/eight when you look at Jones or Greenwood for example. They may develop but to make an impact you have to hit the ground running and stake a claim or be like Sessengnon and go backwards/disappear while you 'develop' in a rotating squad. I think we'll all be disappointed in what we get for them. Have to agree with this. Very occasionally they will have really good games, but neither seems to be able to consistently have a big impact on games in this division, so I really cannot see how they would against higher quality opposition. Far too many players, have much poorer careers in terms of achievements and respect, due to chasing the money. Those two simply wouldn’t be given the opportunities to learn and progress in the modern premier league, whereas with us, provided the manager sorts out our tactics and game management, not only would they prosper over the next couple of years, but then be ready to take their rightful places in the top league, if they hadn’t already got there with us. All sensible points. How many players are sensible when it comes to money? |
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Post by Timmy Doc on Jul 9, 2020 10:02:04 GMT
I think it would be good for their career to train with better players.
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Post by BrightonR on Jul 9, 2020 10:26:31 GMT
I think it would be good for their career to train with better players. If they trained with any worse, it’d be down the park. 😂 |
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 9, 2020 11:03:40 GMT
All I'm saying lads is the transfer market will be tricky this next window.
Lot's of clubs will be on a very tight budget for economic reasons. It's also not gonna be a great time to bed in an overseas player. I mean would you fancy coming to a new country with the backdrop of Covid-19? How would you settle in your family to a new country and culture with everything that's going on? I know myself having been overseas that I all I wanted to do when the shit hit the fan was get back to my home country.
With the above in mind, I could see a few Prem clubs favouring local talent and perhaps looking to the best players in the Championship. I mean, for a side like Palace, Spurs, West Ham etc. Eze probably wouldn't even need to move house.
And yeah, Eze blows hot and cold, but it wouldn't totally surprise me if he improved significantly with better players around him. He's come on leaps and bounds in the few seasons he's been with us.
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Post by hal9thou on Jul 9, 2020 11:32:02 GMT
It's basic stuff. For the first time in a long while the board have a choice about the direction they wish to go in. In FFP terms they've done their bird. It'll be very interesting to see how they play it. The options are clear.
My worry is the quality of football management. Occasionally we can manage a mini run but we're dogshit basically, let's call it. That's the bottom line. It'll be interesting at the end of the season to compare MW's ppg with Ollie's. He's that poor.
From top to bottom its still the blind leading the blind. There is a chance to change all this but it wont be taken.
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 9, 2020 12:03:44 GMT
It's basic stuff. For the first time in a long while the board have a choice about the direction they wish to go in. In FFP terms they've done their bird. It'll be very interesting to see how they play it. The options are clear. My worry is the quality of football management. Occasionally we can manage a mini run but we're dogshit basically, let's call it. That's the bottom line. It'll be interesting at the end of the season to compare MW's ppg with Ollie's. He's that poor. From top to bottom its still the blind leading the blind. There is a chance to change all this but it wont be taken. I think we need a total clear out starting with TF and Les for anything to genuinely change mate. Lee Hoos is a decent guy to have around. Ramsey as well (although I've heard he's quite an arrogant unpleasant man, haven't spent enough time around him personally to confirm this). We won't go anywhere with TF and Les actively involved in the day to day running of the club. To be honest, I like MW. He's solid in the transfer market, plays lovely attacking football and has brought on some of the young players really well. He just needs to be taken to one side and told that he is gonna have a future with the club then he needs to improve the defensive side of our game. Force him to bring in a defensive coach ideally. |
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