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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jul 9, 2020 17:24:11 GMT
Is he really all that? Was the next big ting in English manager's but now only linked with the job centre. Is he a gem just in a rough patch,or was he overhyped and been found out as limited?
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Post by West Acton on Jul 10, 2020 8:34:04 GMT
The whole Bournemouth story is a myth and built of sand
I don’t think he’s awful manager but he’s not half as good as media made out. He was young, English and playing nice football so the love in began
When they drop will be interesting to see what they do pull the trigger or say remain
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 10, 2020 8:45:20 GMT
Built on sand Westy? Look at where they were and where they are now and I would say he is a very good manager as he showed in the season they won the champuonship. The one thing that has killed them is their recruitment which has been hit and miss but more miss recently.
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Post by James1979 on Jul 10, 2020 8:46:31 GMT
To be honest, I don’t know the ins and the outs of what’s gone on there but Howe got them promoted from league 1 to championship, then 2 years later promoted to premiere league and this is their 5th straight year. And it’s bloody Bournemouth! Sounds bloody good to me.
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Post by hal9thou on Jul 10, 2020 9:06:55 GMT
To be honest, I don’t know the ins and the outs of what’s gone on there but Howe got them promoted from league 1 to championship, then 2 years later promoted to premiere league and this is their 5th straight year. And it’s bloody Bournemouth! Sounds bloody good to me. That is absolutely all you need to know. He's a miracle worker compared to some of the clowns we've had to put up with.
All that's happened is the Bournemouth relationship has gone stale.
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 10, 2020 9:16:21 GMT
To be honest, I don’t know the ins and the outs of what’s gone on there but Howe got them promoted from league 1 to championship, then 2 years later promoted to premiere league and this is their 5th straight year. And it’s bloody Bournemouth! Sounds bloody good to me. That is absolutely all you need to know. He's a miracle worker compared to some of the clowns we've had to put up with.
All that's happened is the Bournemouth relationship has gone stale.
Agree Hal, Really think he is a good manager who handled the pressure of keeping a club with a 9 or 10k stadium in the PL. He has made one or two ricks with players but overall for me is decent. As you said better than some of the clowns we have ended up with. |
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jul 10, 2020 9:37:59 GMT
From what I can remember the only other club he's managed was Burnley, after his first stint as Bournemouth boss, and he completely flopped.
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Post by Corbray on Jul 10, 2020 10:17:05 GMT
he's a very good manager imo who has had bournemouth punching well above their weight since they won promotion from league 1.
he's experienced the same problem lots of teams do and thats that his core players have all gotten old or left. players like steve cook, marc pugh and adam smith etc among others are all past it. teams like bournemouth don't just replace them.
look at chelsea for example without drogba, terry, lampard and cech. they've not been the same since they left but the difference is they can throw hundreds of millions to find short term fixes, bournemouth can't and the players they do sign have been shit
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jul 10, 2020 11:39:38 GMT
Like a lot of teams they threw cash about to get in prem,don't make u a genius to achieve that.
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 10, 2020 12:08:57 GMT
Where he's struggled is bedding in genuine Premiership quality players I think.
Howe did a great job of building a squad of players in the Championship and getting them to play football that was better than the sum of their parts. What he hasn't been able to to do is transition to more of a genuine Premiership squad. Every experienced or up and coming top flight player who has gone there hasn't settled. Maybe he struggles to gain the respect of genuine top flight players?
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jul 10, 2020 12:24:05 GMT
Dont help that he looks like he should be delivering the papers to ground,not running it.
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Post by West Acton on Jul 10, 2020 12:48:49 GMT
We will find out in matter of weeks what he’s really made of when there back in championship. They massively overspent and we’re bankrolled for promotion to prem so it’s an achievement but not the plucky small club beat all the odds promotion like it’s sold
I Always thought he would have been good fit for Arsenal
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Post by 72bus on Jul 10, 2020 15:10:38 GMT
Think he's done great ,remember going their when they best us 2-1 think traore scored for us . Thought they played good football that day . Signings like solanke don't help. But thought they played well against spurs y'day ...plenty of fight in them
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 16:47:30 GMT
They've wasted serious amounts of cash on likes of Ibe, Solanke and a few others. Howe seems work best with journeymen, workmanlike old pros so maybe going away from that in transfer strategy has seen a gradual decline.
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 10, 2020 19:43:14 GMT
They've wasted serious amounts of cash on likes of Ibe, Solanke and a few others. Howe seems work best with journeymen, workmanlike old pros so maybe going away from that in transfer strategy has seen a gradual decline. His big money buys Ake aside just have not delivered even Begovic was a dud after joining them. Rate Howe and in some ways Wilder at Sheff Utd is doing the same as Eddie was 4 or 5 years ago doing very well with mostly ordinary players. |
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Post by West Acton on Jul 10, 2020 21:09:04 GMT
Wilder in different league to Howe I rate him highly too but he’s done it right way. Wilder I think could work higher but he won’t as not fashionable bit like Dyce Proper managers
Would love someone like him in charge of England
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 10, 2020 21:31:17 GMT
No Westy he is not, Right now he is sailing aling fine in their first season back in the premier league. Howe did exactly the same thing when Bournemouth came up initially. Yes they have struggled these past 2 seasons but the job should be looked out over the 7 or 8 years he has been back there. Clearly you do not like or rate him but to try to understate his success does not hold up. Wilder has done well but will McGoldrick and Sharp be doing as well in 2 seasons time? The recruitment is crucial and that along with ageing stalwarts is costing Howe and Bournemouth right now.
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Post by Timmy Doc on Jul 11, 2020 7:14:22 GMT
He's done a brilliant job. Always difficult for a club like Bournemouth! to sign proper Premier League standard players. Five seasons there is four years more what everyone expected. Amazing job imo.
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Post by West Acton on Jul 11, 2020 7:46:41 GMT
Agree to disagree 73
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 11, 2020 8:24:15 GMT
He's done a brilliant job. Always difficult for a club like Bournemouth! to sign proper Premier League standard players. Five seasons there is four years more what everyone expected. Amazing job imo. Amazing job and agree 1 maybe 2 seasons in the PL would have been deemed a good job done. I look at the job he has done for the duration of his reign and based on that he has done a fantastic job in keeping them up for 5 seasons. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2020 19:29:42 GMT
Solanke scores 😁
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Post by West Acton on Jul 12, 2020 19:39:49 GMT
Would love West Ham to drop
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2020 19:49:48 GMT
Like London buses, he's got two 😂
Leicester getting a spanking
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Post by West Acton on Jul 29, 2020 19:17:18 GMT
Plucky Bournemouth 😳 media’s favourite team
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Post by alanwycombe on Jul 29, 2020 19:22:33 GMT
From what I can remember the only other club he's managed was Burnley, after his first stint as Bournemouth boss, and he completely flopped. Didn't he swap jobs with Dyche who flopped at Bournemouth? Horses for courses. I seem to remember something like that. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jul 29, 2020 19:23:09 GMT
U going bust like bonmarche
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Post by West Acton on Jul 29, 2020 19:32:22 GMT
From what I can remember the only other club he's managed was Burnley, after his first stint as Bournemouth boss, and he completely flopped. Didn't he swap jobs with Dyche who flopped at Bournemouth? Horses for courses. I seem to remember something like that. don’t think so he was at Watford? |
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 29, 2020 19:34:10 GMT
You can understand why they want to sue for the goal against Villa. Think Howe will step down as looked like this season has totally drained him.
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Post by West Acton on Jul 29, 2020 19:36:14 GMT
Yes heard they wanted sue. I kind of get why but they should be told do one. What about all wrong var decisions for pens where does it stop I’m sure they had decisions going there way during season.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jul 29, 2020 19:37:16 GMT
You can understand why they want to sue for the goal against Villa. Think Howe will step down as looked like this season has totally drained him. They shouldn't be allowed to sue,as opens up never ending cycle. The year they bought their way up ,the 7th place team could sue for blatant over spend. |
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