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Post by West Acton on Jul 15, 2020 10:46:16 GMT
Opens July 27 to Oct 16
So assuming season is up and running will be like old days for early part where season is live but people can buy still months into
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Pros and cons to that. Obviously can lose players which messes up squad but equally might get some clubs panicking if they don’t get good start and paying over the odds
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2020 10:56:28 GMT
Would maybe be harder to loan players due to length of window.
Not good news for us.
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Post by 1qprdk on Jul 15, 2020 11:02:29 GMT
Would maybe be harder to loan players due to length of window. Not good news for us. Some think we should spend what little we have on buying unknown young prospects instead of spunking it on loaning more established players. So may not be such a bad thing after all  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2020 11:20:27 GMT
Would maybe be harder to loan players due to length of window. Not good news for us. Some think we should spend what little we have on buying unknown young prospects instead of spunking it on loaning more established players. So may not be such a bad thing after all We need make sure there's no recall clause if we get loans. Can't end up in wells situation again. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 15, 2020 11:31:38 GMT
Would maybe be harder to loan players due to length of window. Not good news for us. Some think we should spend what little we have on buying unknown young prospects instead of spunking it on loaning more established players. So may not be such a bad thing after all We should be scouting prospects that are just starting to make in name in the game but who you can see will develop under better coaching. It is all about the scouting and recruitment. Who was Neal maupay before he had a decent season for Brentford and was sold for 19 million. We cannot move forward as a club with loans season after season. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2020 11:47:03 GMT
Would maybe be harder to loan players due to length of window. Not good news for us. Some think we should spend what little we have on buying unknown young prospects instead of spunking it on loaning more established players. So may not be such a bad thing after all I’m in favour of purchasing young promising players but I’m also keen on loaning players with an option to buy. If the manager is not given funds to buy good proven players I just hope we don’t hamstring the club by offering three year contracts to free transfers like Todd Kane. |
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Post by 1qprdk on Jul 15, 2020 12:09:58 GMT
Some think we should spend what little we have on buying unknown young prospects instead of spunking it on loaning more established players. So may not be such a bad thing after all We should be scouting prospects that are just starting to make in name in the game but who you can see will develop under better coaching. It is all about the scouting and recruitment. Who was Neal maupay before he had a decent season for Brentford and was sold for 19 million. We cannot move forward as a club with loans season after season. A player on loan in the French second division who´d made his debut playing for Nice when he was only sixteen and been in several France youth teams, when he was purchased by Brentford for a fee reported to be £1.6 million in 2017, after which he had one decent (2017-18) and one very good season (2018-19)? I get your point though, and fully agree. I am just not sure that we can afford to spend that kind of money on unknown quantities with our track record, but maybe Warburton is better connected in Europe than previous managers has been. |
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Post by Greg1882 on Jul 15, 2020 12:13:56 GMT
Some think we should spend what little we have on buying unknown young prospects instead of spunking it on loaning more established players. So may not be such a bad thing after all We should be scouting prospects that are just starting to make in name in the game but who you can see will develop under better coaching. It is all about the scouting and recruitment. Who was Neal maupay before he had a decent season for Brentford and was sold for 19 million. We cannot move forward as a club with loans season after season. Nail on head. We’ve got scouts all over Europe who generally return the grand sum of fuck all. There’s hidden gems out there and we seriously need to up our game |
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Post by spongeparr on Jul 15, 2020 12:22:42 GMT
We just need the wider QPR fanbase to stop jumping on the kids and calling them shit when they have an off game! We give no one time unless they hit the ground running. Be it new signings or youth.
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 15, 2020 12:26:09 GMT
We should be scouting prospects that are just starting to make in name in the game but who you can see will develop under better coaching. It is all about the scouting and recruitment. Who was Neal maupay before he had a decent season for Brentford and was sold for 19 million. We cannot move forward as a club with loans season after season. A player on loan in the French second division who´d made his debut playing for Nice when he was only sixteen and been in several France youth teams, when he was purchased by Brentford for a fee reported to be £1.6 million in 2017, after which he had one decent (2017-18) and one very good season (2018-19)? I get your point though, and fully agree. I am just not sure that we can afford to spend that kind of money on unknown quantities with our track record, but maybe Warburton is better connected in Europe than previous managers has been. But is that not the job of the D.O.F and other football people at the club to have the connections to help us find those gems. As for affording it no we cannot afford a 2.8 million punt on Washington on the say so of the D.O.F when we could be scouting Europe, Pukki at Norwich was a 400k buy for them and he has done ok even after an unsuccesful stint at Celtic |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2020 12:38:27 GMT
We should be scouting prospects that are just starting to make in name in the game but who you can see will develop under better coaching. It is all about the scouting and recruitment. Who was Neal maupay before he had a decent season for Brentford and was sold for 19 million. We cannot move forward as a club with loans season after season. Nail on head. We’ve got scouts all over Europe who generally return the grand sum of fuck all. There’s hidden gems out there and we seriously need to up our game Have we got a scouting network ?I have tried searching for some names but can only find a company that gathers info. As a side note I found that Gary Penrice is now head of recruitment at Celtic. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 15, 2020 12:43:56 GMT
Nail on head. We’ve got scouts all over Europe who generally return the grand sum of fuck all. There’s hidden gems out there and we seriously need to up our game Have we got a scouting network ?I have tried searching for some names but can only find a company that gathers info. As a side note I found that Gary Penrice is now head of recruitment at Celtic. Why have we got an ambassador in Sinton but no scouts for players to make us a better team. Nothing against Sinton but surely a chief scout is priority? |
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 15, 2020 13:08:52 GMT
We should be scouting prospects that are just starting to make in name in the game but who you can see will develop under better coaching. It is all about the scouting and recruitment. Who was Neal maupay before he had a decent season for Brentford and was sold for 19 million. We cannot move forward as a club with loans season after season. Nail on head. We’ve got scouts all over Europe who generally return the grand sum of fuck all. There’s hidden gems out there and we seriously need to up our game Aren't our scouting network predominantly freelancers? i.e. They aren't on the payroll, but they are paid if they recommend a player who we sign. That was certainly the case with Penrice. He was never a club employee. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2020 13:15:04 GMT
Have we got a scouting network ?I have tried searching for some names but can only find a company that gathers info. As a side note I found that Gary Penrice is now head of recruitment at Celtic. Why have we got an ambassador in Sinton but no scouts for players to make us a better team. Nothing against Sinton but surely a chief scout is priority? Found some names. Andrew Belk- head of recruitment Glen Ruffin-head scout u9-u16 Gary Karsa-recruitment and youth development. |
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Post by Hitman34 on Jul 15, 2020 13:16:14 GMT
Have we got a scouting network ?I have tried searching for some names but can only find a company that gathers info. As a side note I found that Gary Penrice is now head of recruitment at Celtic. Why have we got an ambassador in Sinton but no scouts for players to make us a better team. Nothing against Sinton but surely a chief scout is priority? All that handshaking is very important 73. add to that, if we did not have AmbassadorAndy, (from the north of england) we would have no one to commentate on the matches or to offer up a few tweets every day. Would love to know how much he is paid per year though. #losing1milpermonth #goldenhandshakes #criticalrole #nicetomeetyouandwelcometoqpr #payasyoushake #willshakeforawage |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2020 13:26:03 GMT
All that handshaking is very important 73. add to that, if we did not have AmbassadorAndy, (from the north of england) we would have no one to commentate on the matches or to offer up a few tweets every day. Would love to know how much he is paid per year though. #losing1milpermonth #goldenhandshakes #criticalrole #nicetomeetyouandwelcometoqpr #payasyoushake #willshakeforawage At least he coated off our performance against SW which stopped MW calling the fans ignorant and un-educated from previous criticism of the team by “some so called fans “ by the way I’m a shit and thick fan too. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 15, 2020 13:34:55 GMT
Nail on head. We’ve got scouts all over Europe who generally return the grand sum of fuck all. There’s hidden gems out there and we seriously need to up our game Aren't our scouting network predominantly freelancers? i.e. They aren't on the payroll, but they are paid if they recommend a player who we sign. That was certainly the case with Penrice. He was never a club employee. Not paid too much then Tarbie in recent times. |
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Post by Brian Wilson on Jul 15, 2020 14:05:22 GMT
Have we got a scouting network ?I have tried searching for some names but can only find a company that gathers info. As a side note I found that Gary Penrice is now head of recruitment at Celtic. Why have we got an ambassador in Sinton but no scouts for players to make us a better team. Nothing against Sinton but surely a chief scout is priority? I've heard Andy Sinton does a lot of good work in his role particularly for fans who are not well and in hospital. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jul 15, 2020 14:41:55 GMT
We just need the wider QPR fanbase to stop jumping on the kids and calling them shit when they have an off game! We give no one time unless they hit the ground running. Be it new signings or youth. Time is a wonderful thing,but we've given the club decades of it and in the main they've given back fuck all. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 15, 2020 15:41:24 GMT
Why have we got an ambassador in Sinton but no scouts for players to make us a better team. Nothing against Sinton but surely a chief scout is priority? I've heard Andy Sinton does a lot of good work in his role particularly for fans who are not well and in hospital. Brian. Nothing against him or doubting what he does for the club and former players but would say a chief scout is essential if we are to move forward as a club. |
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Post by Hitman34 on Jul 15, 2020 15:54:57 GMT
Why have we got an ambassador in Sinton but no scouts for players to make us a better team. Nothing against Sinton but surely a chief scout is priority? I've heard Andy Sinton does a lot of good work in his role particularly for fans who are not well and in hospital. if thats the case, i hope he is volunteering to go out of the goodness of his own heart and is not being paid to go. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2020 16:58:14 GMT
Andrew Belk-head Of recruitment at QPR
Virtual Event. Football scouting in the digital age-with Andrew Belk on youtube
Sorry unable to post a link that works...45 min video.
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Post by Brian Wilson on Jul 15, 2020 17:01:06 GMT
I've heard Andy Sinton does a lot of good work in his role particularly for fans who are not well and in hospital. Brian. Nothing against him or doubting what he does for the club and former players but would say a chief scout is essential if we are to move forward as a club. Fair enough but I doubt it's one or the other. |
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Post by Brian Wilson on Jul 15, 2020 17:02:03 GMT
I've heard Andy Sinton does a lot of good work in his role particularly for fans who are not well and in hospital. if thats the case, i hope he is volunteering to go out of the goodness of his own heart and is not being paid to go. Really idiotic comment. You should do a bit of research before making your mind up and slating people. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 15, 2020 17:03:50 GMT
Pretty sure that Penrice is still employed in a freelance capacity
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 15, 2020 17:04:58 GMT
Brian. Nothing against him or doubting what he does for the club and former players but would say a chief scout is essential if we are to move forward as a club. Fair enough but I doubt it's one or the other. Maybe not one or the other but surely a chief scout needs to be employed. |
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Post by West Acton on Jul 15, 2020 17:11:39 GMT
Pretty sure that Penrice is still employed in a freelance capacity I thought he got shorty after Ollie left and departed few months later. Freeman aside who did he identify |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2020 17:22:15 GMT
Pretty sure that Penrice is still employed in a freelance capacity I thought he got shorty after Ollie left and departed few months later. Freeman aside who did he identify Maybe BOS |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 15, 2020 18:59:52 GMT
Pretty sure that Penrice is still employed in a freelance capacity I thought he got shorty after Ollie left and departed few months later. Freeman aside who did he identify I hear Hoos mention his interactions with him a few times recently, which lead me to think he's still hired by the club. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 15, 2020 19:04:36 GMT
Why have we got an ambassador in Sinton but no scouts for players to make us a better team. Nothing against Sinton but surely a chief scout is priority? All that handshaking is very important 73. add to that, if we did not have AmbassadorAndy, (from the north of england) we would have no one to commentate on the matches or to offer up a few tweets every day. Would love to know how much he is paid per year though. #losing1milpermonth #goldenhandshakes #criticalrole #nicetomeetyouandwelcometoqpr #payasyoushake #willshakeforawage [b Those Hashtags are top drawer Hits |
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