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Shankland
Jul 21, 2020 19:09:38 GMT
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Post by Norfolk Ranger on Jul 21, 2020 19:09:38 GMT
After the club scouted him a few times before lockdown,wonder if we will go in for him. Has scored a lot of goals last few seasons so would surely be worth a punt? Or is he out of our reach financially 🤔
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Shankland
Jul 21, 2020 19:13:25 GMT
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 21, 2020 19:13:25 GMT
After the club scouted him a few times before lockdown,wonder if we will go in for him. Has scored a lot of goals last few seasons so would surely be worth a punt? Or is he out of our reach financially 🤔 [b Would definitely go for him in front of that Moore. |
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 21, 2020 22:04:03 GMT
After the club scouted him a few times before lockdown,wonder if we will go in for him. Has scored a lot of goals last few seasons so would surely be worth a punt? Or is he out of our reach financially 🤔 [b Would definitely go for him in front of that Moore. Any reason why mate? I know stats don't tell the full picture, but Moore's are pretty tidy. He's also had 5 Man of the Match performances for Wigan this season. In other words, he's a tried and tested player in the Championship. Shankland has scored bag loads for Dundee Utd and Ayr Utd, but they were all in the Scottish Championship or Scottish League One. In other words, he's been playing conference standard opposition most weeks. No guarantee at all he will step up to Championship level. |
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Shankland
Jul 21, 2020 23:51:39 GMT
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Post by 72bus on Jul 21, 2020 23:51:39 GMT
Get both of them
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 22, 2020 0:39:16 GMT
[b Would definitely go for him in front of that Moore. Any reason why mate? I know stats don't tell the full picture, but Moore's are pretty tidy. He's also had 5 Man of the Match performances for Wigan this season. In other words, he's a tried and tested player in the Championship. Shankland has scored bag loads for Dundee Utd and Ayr Utd, but they were all in the Scottish Championship or Scottish League One. In other words, he's been playing conference standard opposition most weeks. No guarantee at all he will step up to Championship level. Natural goalscorers are just that and I am a believer that the goals do not move and Shankland is a goalscorer who has the potential to get better where as Moore is what he is. Millwall also bid for him so not over the line yet. |
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Shankland
Jul 22, 2020 7:17:34 GMT
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 22, 2020 7:17:34 GMT
Any reason why mate? I know stats don't tell the full picture, but Moore's are pretty tidy. He's also had 5 Man of the Match performances for Wigan this season. In other words, he's a tried and tested player in the Championship. Shankland has scored bag loads for Dundee Utd and Ayr Utd, but they were all in the Scottish Championship or Scottish League One. In other words, he's been playing conference standard opposition most weeks. No guarantee at all he will step up to Championship level. Natural goalscorers are just that and I am a believer that the goals do not move and Shankland is a goalscorer who has the potential to get better where as Moore is what he is. Millwall also bid for him so not over the line yet. Don't buy that myself here. David Wheeler scored a load of goals in League 2 before we signed him. He's found his level on the subs bench for Wycombe. Remi Oteh's scoring record in U18 and U23 football is incredible, so far he's looked out of his depth in first team football. Have a good look at Shankland's history. He struggled in his early career and had to drop down the league to find some form. That's not to say he definitely can't make the step up to Championship football. Maybe be can, but it's definitely a bigger roll of the dice than signing a player that is already doing well at this level. |
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Shankland
Jul 22, 2020 8:30:39 GMT
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 22, 2020 8:30:39 GMT
Natural goalscorers are just that and I am a believer that the goals do not move and Shankland is a goalscorer who has the potential to get better where as Moore is what he is. Millwall also bid for him so not over the line yet. Don't buy that myself here. David Wheeler scored a load of goals in League 2 before we signed him. He's found his level on the subs bench for Wycombe. Remi Oteh's scoring record in U18 and U23 football is incredible, so far he's looked out of his depth in first team football. Have a good look at Shankland's history. He struggled in his early career and had to drop down the league to find some form. That's not to say he definitely can't make the step up to Championship football. Maybe be can, but it's definitely a bigger roll of the dice than signing a player that is already doing well at this level. All about opinions Tarbie, Pukki struggled at Celtic a few years ago but has come back stronger and is worth 10 times over what Norwich paid for him. Moore will do a job and his value will stay exactly the same Shankland on the other hand can increase his value with a half decent season. |
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Shankland
Jul 22, 2020 8:33:35 GMT
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 22, 2020 8:33:35 GMT
See, I disagree on Puki too. Purple patch is all that was. 2nd half of the season he's looked every bit the bang average Championship striker that he probably is.
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Shankland
Jul 22, 2020 8:40:10 GMT
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 22, 2020 8:40:10 GMT
All about opinions Tarbie, Pukki has done great for Norwich and will net them a profit so has been a success.
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Shankland
Jul 22, 2020 8:42:23 GMT
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Post by Corbray on Jul 22, 2020 8:42:23 GMT
pukki was a freebie too i think
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jul 22, 2020 8:44:23 GMT
See, I disagree on Puki too. Purple patch is all that was. 2nd half of the season he's looked every bit the bang average Championship striker that he probably is. Bang average? I'm not sure 29 goals in his first Championship season can be described as bang average or a purple patch. His form has dropped off this season, sure, but if he stays with Norwich I'm willing to bet he'll finish top scorer next season again. |
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Shankland
Jul 22, 2020 8:47:50 GMT
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 22, 2020 8:47:50 GMT
Big reason for their promotion so netted them 150 million from PL money. Would love a "bang average" player to do that for us on a free!If you do not rate that is ok but to suggest he has not been a success is laughable
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Shankland
Jul 22, 2020 10:47:49 GMT
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 22, 2020 10:47:49 GMT
As you say. Opinions ain't it. I saw Pukki play for Celtic and he looked very poor.
Clearly found some form in Scandinavian football after leaving Celtic which he carried over to English football. Hasn't looked too clever 2nd half of this season though. My money is on that continuing in the Championship next year.
Strikers are a funny thing. A lot of it is mental, down to confidence etc. Some bloom late, some have a season or 2 in their career where they are scoring for fun, then it never happens again.
We've have a few here haven't we? Jamie Cureton, Patrick Agyemang, Connor Washington?
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Shankland
Jul 22, 2020 10:50:32 GMT
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 22, 2020 10:50:32 GMT
Big reason for their promotion so netted them 150 million from PL money. Would love a "bang average" player to do that for us on a free!If you do not rate that is ok but to suggest he has not been a success is laughable Where did I say Pukki wasn't a success mate? Clearly he has been. All I'm saying is he's had a purple patch. When his form went, Norwich dropped like a stone. My point is purely that he is a player that for whatever reason managed to perform over and above what you'd expect for a guy of his ability for 18 months of his career. Exactly Patrick Agyemang did for 6 months or so with us. |
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Shankland
Jul 22, 2020 11:02:10 GMT
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 22, 2020 11:02:10 GMT
Big reason for their promotion so netted them 150 million from PL money. Would love a "bang average" player to do that for us on a free!If you do not rate that is ok but to suggest he has not been a success is laughable Where did I say Pukki wasn't a success mate? Clearly he has been. All I'm saying is he's had a purple patch. When his form went, Norwich dropped like a stone. My point is purely that he is a player that for whatever reason managed to perform over and above what you'd expect for a guy of his ability for 18 months of his career. Exactly Patrick Agyemang did for 6 months or so with us. "Bang Average" as for like big Patrick no chance this guy will be sold for anything from 6 to 10 million so represents great value for Norwich and better than "Bang Average". |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2020 11:02:28 GMT
As you say. Opinions ain't it. I saw Pukki play for Celtic and he looked very poor. Clearly found some form in Scandinavian football after leaving Celtic which he carried over to English football. Hasn't looked too clever 2nd half of this season though. My money is on that continuing in the Championship next year. Strikers are a funny thing. A lot of it is mental, down to confidence etc. Some bloom late, some have a season or 2 in their career where they are scoring for fun, then it never happens again. We've have a few here haven't we? Jamie Cureton, Patrick Agyemang, Connor Washington? Not a striker but Stuart Wardley came from non league and scored for fun from midfield.. next year could not hit a barn door. |
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Shankland
Jul 22, 2020 11:07:13 GMT
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 22, 2020 11:07:13 GMT
You could also liken Pukki to Adel in that both were a huge influence in helping their teams to promotion and then were not as good the following season. Would you deem Adel as "bang average"? 29 goals in the championship is not a bang average striker in my opinion.
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Shankland
Jul 22, 2020 11:26:09 GMT
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 22, 2020 11:26:09 GMT
You could also liken Pukki to Adel in that both were a huge influence in helping their teams to promotion and then were not as good the following season. Would you deem Adel as "bang average"? 29 goals in the championship is not a bang average striker in my opinion. The difference is Adel's ability was plain for all to see. With Adel, we got the 1 season in his career where he lived up to expectations. For Pukki, they got a patch of his career where he achieved well above and beyond what you'd expect for a player of his ability. You're right in that Norwich should be happy with the return they've got from Pukki. He's been an excellent signing for the club. But I personally very much doubt you'll see that form out of him again. |
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Shankland
Jul 22, 2020 11:36:35 GMT
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 22, 2020 11:36:35 GMT
The comparison was the impact on the team not their ability, As for not the same form again has Adel ever played as well since? Maybe now he is having a good season in Portugal.
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Post by Shania on Jul 22, 2020 11:42:43 GMT
Shankland has decided to stay at his club was the last I read about him.
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