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Post by The General on Sept 13, 2020 11:32:22 GMT
Agreed Alan people should be able to post their views whatever they are
Gloating about our first win of the season is the sort of thing that our mate Pinkie would have done
We are all happy that we won end of story
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Post by 1973ranger on Sept 13, 2020 11:39:52 GMT
I was pleased for Chair getting a tap in as lot of expectation on him to do well after Eze's departure. I think him and Dykes will form a good understanding and can see him getting 10 plus goals.
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Post by Tarbie on Sept 13, 2020 11:55:41 GMT
Agreed Alan people should be able to post their views whatever they are Gloating about our first win of the season is the sort of thing that our mate Pinkie would have done We are all happy that we won end of story Come on Gen, we've had a month of listening to a load of bullshit & hyperbole about us being relegation candidates, the new signings being rubbish, needing another 5 or 6 players in to be competitive etc. Obviously a good few of us on here knew that wasn't the case and had a bit of faith in the players coming in, and the youngsters stepping up. Whilst nothing is won or lost on the first game of the season, you've surely gotta understand why a few posters might want to have a dig back after all the shit that's been talked by some sections of our fans in the last few weeks? |
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Post by 1973ranger on Sept 13, 2020 12:26:55 GMT
Agreed Alan people should be able to post their views whatever they are Gloating about our first win of the season is the sort of thing that our mate Pinkie would have done We are all happy that we won end of story Come on Gen, we've had a month of listening to a load of bullshit & hyperbole about us being relegation candidates, the new signings being rubbish, needing another 5 or 6 players in to be competitive etc. Obviously a good few of us on here knew that wasn't the case and had a bit of faith in the players coming in, and the youngsters stepping up. Whilst nothing is won or lost on the first game of the season, you've surely gotta understand why a few posters might want to have a dig back after all the shit that's been talked by some sections of our fans in the last few weeks? We are still 3 or 4 short and god forbid Dykes is injured then the script of positivity will be torn up. 2 good new signings have really given us a platform to build on and with additions we will be ok but without them then you would fear for us as our strength in depth is not there. Good win yesterday and something to build on but we still need re inforcements and lets hope we get them. |
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Sept 13, 2020 12:29:52 GMT
Agreed Alan people should be able to post their views whatever they are Gloating about our first win of the season is the sort of thing that our mate Pinkie would have done We are all happy that we won end of story This is the problem, celebrating a win is not gloating! And you know as well as I do that if we had lost there'd be 3 or 4 new threads cunting off the manager/board/specific players/optimistic fans. |
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Post by Maidstone_Hoop on Sept 13, 2020 12:36:02 GMT
Agreed Alan people should be able to post their views whatever they are Gloating about our first win of the season is the sort of thing that our mate Pinkie would have done We are all happy that we won end of story Come on Gen, we've had a month of listening to a load of bullshit & hyperbole about us being relegation candidates, the new signings being rubbish, needing another 5 or 6 players in to be competitive etc. Obviously a good few of us on here knew that wasn't the case and had a bit of faith in the players coming in, and the youngsters stepping up. Whilst nothing is won or lost on the first game of the season, you've surely gotta understand why a few posters might want to have a dig back after all the shit that's been talked by some sections of our fans in the last few weeks? I still disagree with the sentiments above and think we do need 3/4 or 5 players to compete. The season has just started and tbh I said to a few mates I think we will see a few random results across all of the leagues initially as things are just not normal right now. Add to the fact we seriously lack depth and in 4 weeks time we go to a 2 games per week, our options and squad depth will pay a pivotal role. Tarbie, if Dykes, Dickie and Barbet get injured where are the capable replacements? Who replace Chair if he doesn’t live up to expectations, or just needs a rest? I was as happy as every fan we won yesterday and it’s made My weekend like every other fan but I still see holes in our squad and again tbh if you watched the game or even the highlights most realistic fans will be honest enough to say we could of easily drawn that game yesterday or lost as Grabban missed 2 or 3 chances he would normally score. Our defence got opened up a few time’s and on another day we will get punished. I agree with some of the other posters that OP is slightly immature considering we are one game in. I don’t think anyone can really predict our position until we see how we fair over the next 10-12 games and we potentially when the transfer window closes. This is also a forum so different opinions should be welcomed and people Shouldn’t be lambasted for thinking differently. My personal feelings after yesterday is that I believe we have a squad that should probably stay up and I saw some great positives yesterday. As a fan, I look at our team and think if we can just add 5 more savvy signings in key positions (not all first 11), we could probably compete at a higher level on this league. |
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Post by Tarbie on Sept 13, 2020 12:51:29 GMT
Maids, I agree the squad is thin. Dykes in particular we have no adequate cover for. In terms of a replacement for Chair, I'm guess we are currently looking at George Thomas for that.
At the back we have Masterston and Niko that can step in and are good enough, beyond that we are a bit light there too.
I think its gonna get addressed though. And we've gone over that subject ad nauseum already.
I just wanna remind you that less than a week ago you said that our squad in its current state will be relegation certainties. Surely you understand why that sort if pessimism winds some fans up?
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Post by Shania on Sept 13, 2020 12:59:32 GMT
To be honest, I think Warburton(especially) and others from the club who are scanning the various QPR forums seem to have noticed that many supporters are worried with regards to our defensive play. From what I saw yesterday that is a pluss. According to both Dickie and Warburton they seem to have adressed that problem now. I`m not sure Warburton would have noticed it himself. Eustace and the other coaches took care of the defenisve drills this week according to Warbs.
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Post by Shania on Sept 13, 2020 13:06:54 GMT
Maids, I agree the squad is thin. Dykes in particular we have no adequate cover for. In terms of a replacement for Chair, I'm guess we are currently looking at George Thomas for that. At the back we have Masterston and Niko that can step in and are good enough, beyond that we are a bit light there too. I think its gonna get addressed though. And we've gone over that subject ad nauseum already. I just wanna remind you that less than a week ago you said that our squad in its current state will be relegation certainties. Surely you understand why that sort if pessimism winds some fans up? A worried supporter sometimes takes such a stand. With regards to myself, I can perfectly see where he is coming from. Nobody is perfect, and tea cups are sometimes half empty  |
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Post by acricketer on Sept 13, 2020 13:07:42 GMT
Maids, I agree the squad is thin. Dykes in particular we have no adequate cover for. In terms of a replacement for Chair, I'm guess we are currently looking at George Thomas for that. At the back we have Masterston and Niko that can step in and are good enough, beyond that we are a bit light there too. I think its gonna get addressed though. And we've gone over that subject ad nauseum already. I just wanna remind you that less than a week ago you said that our squad in its current state will be relegation certainties. Surely you understand why that sort if pessimism winds some fans up? I'd like to see a bit more of Ramkilde, looks a big lad willing to graft (based on Middlesboro showing). Supposedly shows promise but is injured at the moment. |
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Post by Maidstone_Hoop on Sept 13, 2020 13:11:02 GMT
Maids, I agree the squad is thin. Dykes in particular we have no adequate cover for. In terms of a replacement for Chair, I'm guess we are currently looking at George Thomas for that. At the back we have Masterston and Niko that can step in and are good enough, beyond that we are a bit light there too. I think its gonna get addressed though. And we've gone over that subject ad nauseum already. I just wanna remind you that less than a week ago you said that our squad in its current state will be relegation certainties. Surely you understand why that sort if pessimism winds some fans up? Tarbie, I still think we will be in a relegation fight with the squad we have now, due to the fact we can’t afford to have any injuries. Any of our key players get injured and we are f***ed!! I still think this squad as it stands finished somewhere between 17th - 24th and we will be competing with the likes of Barnsley, Luton, Reading, Coventry, Wycombe, Rotherham and Hiddersfield to stay up. There’s no guarantees that we will accumulate enough points to stay up above any of them but yesterday made me personally feel like we have a good chance. As I said in my post above, how Grabban didn’t score one of not two of his guilt edge chances made the difference between a gloating post like this and all of our Saturdays being ruined. I don’t want to take anything away from the result as I’m still buzzing from it but as a realist on another day we lose that game!! I still see us with the squad we have and options available to choose from as a team who will fight relegation this year but might not necessarily get relegated. The point I might not be articulating clearly is I think there are thin margins in this league from being a team who might be in a scrap to stay up to a team that can compete top half and maybe even flirt with the playoffs. I think if MW is backed to bring in 4 or 5 decent signings we can propel ourselves significantly to a team that could comfortably stay up and maybe even surprise a few people and flirt with the playoffs. To do that imo we need a gk, cb cover, cam, at least one winger maybe two of BOS goes and again at least one striker! We probably won’t get the above, which imo means we will probably finish anywhere from 14th-21st, but depending on from and consistency we could go down! |
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Sept 13, 2020 13:22:45 GMT
He won't be backed to bring in 4 or 5 decent signings, the board can only back him as far as the EFL FFP rules allow them to. 4 or 5 decent players in the present time are not cheap, whether that be transfer fees or wages.
If 4 or 5 decent players are what you think is needed then we'll likely have to let 3 or 4 go, which leaves us just as thin.
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Post by Tarbie on Sept 13, 2020 13:26:16 GMT
Agree to disagree Maids. We are better than you are giving us credit for. It's also important that acknowledge that there are plenty of sides in worse shape than us with the backdrop of Covid.
I personally see us more likely to be flirting with the playoffs than flirting with relegation.
A lot of this of course will hinge on what happens in the last few weeks of the transfer window.
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 13, 2020 13:27:06 GMT
Maids, we're not gonna bring in 4-6 new players before the window shuts. Warbs is on record as saying he's hoping to get 1-2 maximum. So we may as well just deal with realities. Agreed?
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Sept 13, 2020 13:30:19 GMT
Happiness,happiness 😊
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Post by Maidstone_Hoop on Sept 13, 2020 13:37:43 GMT
I’ve said in my posts I don’t think we will bring in 4/5 or 6 players, I’m just stating that’s what I think we need to do to compete at a higher level in this league due to the players we have lost.
If we are bringing in just one or two additions then we will imo definitely be in a relegation scrap. That doesn’t mean I think we will be relegated but I think we will struggle as our squad has no depth and even yesterday showed we are still vulnerable at the back and were lucky Grabban wasn’t on form.
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 13, 2020 13:46:02 GMT
I’ve said in my posts I don’t think we will bring in 4/5 or 6 players, I’m just stating that’s what I think we need to do to compete at a higher level in this league due to the players we have lost. If we are bringing in just one or two additions then we will imo definitely be in a relegation scrap. That doesn’t mean I think we will be relegated but I think we will struggle as our squad has no depth and even yesterday showed we are still vulnerable at the back and were lucky Grabban wasn’t on form. Ok, understood. And yes you're right it's a forum, so you're equally entitled to hold such a view as those who don't. Other may disagree which is fine. It's all fair debate as far as I can see. |
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Post by awin on Sept 13, 2020 13:49:56 GMT
I do understand the argument we appear thin with 2 games a week coming up but as devil advocate I would point out the following - if we sign up 5-6 more to cover that, the contracts will be for more than 12 months. If we return as normal at the beginning of next season, we will have extra players and contracts left over from a season of need. These contracts will heavily affect FFP of future seasons and impact upon our rebuilding.
We are thin but have exciting youngsters in most positions sitting in wait. They certainly aren’t the finished article but they are decent cover. Gubbins, Bettache,Niko, Alfa, Smyth etc
Really think the club are trying to manage finances through exceptional circumstances.
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Post by Maidstone_Hoop on Sept 13, 2020 13:58:29 GMT
Agree, Awin and I don’t want to see the club over stretch itself financially that threatens our existence.
Tbh if we stay up I think it’s another good season considering the challenges we have had to deal with financially.
There are some great signings available though on frees and loans that could still make a big difference. Swansea have done some amazing business in this window and barely spent a penny on footballing terms.
In fact I thought MW showed this skill set last year with Wells, Hugil, Amos on loan and Pugh on a free.
I’m still hoping we might secure a couple of shrewd loans and maybe a free signing or two.
Whatever happens we all want the best for QPR and I think the good thing to read on this forum is most agree the club is being run sensibly 🍺
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Post by Shania on Sept 13, 2020 14:03:06 GMT
Bringing in as many as 4 or 5 players new players now could affect the togetherness in the current squad in a negative way.
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Post by 1973ranger on Sept 13, 2020 15:49:59 GMT
We need cover for Dykes as his style of play could see us be without him for part of the season. Do not want to be like 2013/14 where we were fucked when Austin got injured and we struggled due to being over reliant on him as Dykes will be as important to this team as Charlie was back then.
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Post by The General on Sept 13, 2020 17:00:17 GMT
Agreed Alan people should be able to post their views whatever they are Gloating about our first win of the season is the sort of thing that our mate Pinkie would have done We are all happy that we won end of story This is the problem, celebrating a win is not gloating! And you know as well as I do that if we had lost there'd be 3 or 4 new threads cunting off the manager/board/specific players/optimistic fans. Agreed Ginge but it was not just celebrating a win was it it was Gaslighting people who feel the squad is not strong enough if you read it Bit like the posters on Watrb Great win / Still not convicted the squad is deep enough or strong enough But I won't be gloating when we lose Our first game buddy |
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Post by The General on Sept 13, 2020 17:02:36 GMT
Come on Gen, we've had a month of listening to a load of bullshit & hyperbole about us being relegation candidates, the new signings being rubbish, needing another 5 or 6 players in to be competitive etc. Obviously a good few of us on here knew that wasn't the case and had a bit of faith in the players coming in, and the youngsters stepping up. Whilst nothing is won or lost on the first game of the season, you've surely gotta understand why a few posters might want to have a dig back after all the shit that's been talked by some sections of our fans in the last few weeks? We are still 3 or 4 short and god forbid Dykes is injured then the script of positivity will be torn up. 2 good new signings have really given us a platform to build on and with additions we will be ok but without them then you would fear for us as our strength in depth is not there. Good win yesterday and something to build on but we still need re inforcements and lets hope we get them. Agreed Tarbs I have no beef with Greg at all it's just reminded me of warbs site which this is not |
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Post by The General on Sept 13, 2020 17:11:16 GMT
Looking forward to our next win 😂😂
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Sept 13, 2020 17:21:21 GMT
This is the problem, celebrating a win is not gloating! And you know as well as I do that if we had lost there'd be 3 or 4 new threads cunting off the manager/board/specific players/optimistic fans. Agreed Ginge but it was not just celebrating a win was it it was Gaslighting people who feel the squad is not strong enough if you read it Bit like the posters on Watrb Great win / Still not convicted the squad is deep enough or strong enough But I won't be gloating when we lose Our first game buddy Agreed about needing more cover, a striker or 2 is a must. |
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Post by Greg1882 on Sept 13, 2020 17:32:40 GMT
We are still 3 or 4 short and god forbid Dykes is injured then the script of positivity will be torn up. 2 good new signings have really given us a platform to build on and with additions we will be ok but without them then you would fear for us as our strength in depth is not there. Good win yesterday and something to build on but we still need re inforcements and lets hope we get them. Agreed Tarbs I have no beef with Greg at all it's just reminded me of warbs site which this is not Agreed gen no issues my end at all. That wasn’t really aimed at anyone specific but some of the doom and gloom has been well over the top as it is every year. I think I must have just been overcome with joy yesterday. That and about 10 pints of continental lager 😂. Great result yesterday and let’s hope we build on it Friday. Coyrs |
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Post by 1973ranger on Sept 13, 2020 17:52:43 GMT
Unfortunately supporting Rangers is we are 1 win away from promotion or 1 defeat from relegation. Prefer to see it as a good start with the new signings settling in well.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Sept 13, 2020 17:56:37 GMT
Unfortunately supporting Rangers is we are 1 win away from promotion or 1 defeat from relegation. Prefer to see it as a good start with the new signings settling in well. On top of that, its way too early in the season to be even thinking about promotion or relegation imo. |
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Sept 13, 2020 17:57:15 GMT
Agreed Tarbs I have no beef with Greg at all it's just reminded me of warbs site which this is not Agreed gen no issues my end at all. That wasn’t really aimed at anyone specific but some of the doom and gloom has been well over the top as it is every year. I think I must have just been overcome with joy yesterday. That and about 10 pints of continental lager 😂. Great result yesterday and let’s hope we build on it Friday. Coyrs 10 pints, I figured you might've had a few Greg 😂 what was your poison? |
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Post by Greg1882 on Sept 13, 2020 18:09:30 GMT
Agreed gen no issues my end at all. That wasn’t really aimed at anyone specific but some of the doom and gloom has been well over the top as it is every year. I think I must have just been overcome with joy yesterday. That and about 10 pints of continental lager 😂. Great result yesterday and let’s hope we build on it Friday. Coyrs 10 pints, I figured you might've had a few Greg 😂 what was your poison? Morretti ginge. Works leaving do coupled with some half decent weather, a 300 quid winning bet and the first day of season. Horrific 😂 |
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