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Post by West Acton on Oct 3, 2020 6:05:12 GMT
Just see GT has said same as me. It’s interesting discussion.
Don’t think it would be as easy as giving each club x percentage as that’s not fair as some will totally use any money to take liberties
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 3, 2020 7:43:04 GMT
Catching up on this thread. West Acton gtleighsr3 - Corbs seems to have addressed your points below? Not seen a good counter-argument yet: a feeder system/affliate club between premiership clubs and lower league clubs would help massively imo. for example say chelsea set up an affliation with forest green rovers. they pay forest green x amount of cash each season and get first option on their youth players for a reduced fee. another option would be to bring in the % of future transfer fees to be given to the youth team of players that many countries operate with. so for example if gillingham develop an academy player, sell him to west ham who then sell him to chelsea and then onto barcelona gillingham will still be due a transfer fee from each subsequent sale if that makes sense. only something like 0.5% of future fees but that could still generate a nice income for smaller clubs. it'd diminish the quality of the game though. think of all the premier league clubs that have players who plied their trade with lower league clubs first before going to the prem. guys like vardy and kane for example but there's countless other players who followed a similar path. keeping smaller clubs around benefits bigger clubs too. football is unique to other businesses too, you can't compare football clubs to building companies for example |
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Post by West Acton on Oct 3, 2020 8:02:23 GMT
I would not be against feeder system I have thought it would make sense and would not be against that.l idea as everyone wins. Personally think that’s different to a bailout
I can’t get my head round why clubs like Birmingham, derby, Wednesday and forest should get money to help them cover costs for crazy spending. Look at forest this season alone they have not let CVD stop them doubling there squad so why subsidise
I’ve seen Few calls for FFP to be scrapped I could not disagree more. It’s times like this it’s even more important to have it. Owners should be allowed step in to cover current wages and costs of clubs, that’s fine, but no way should we just say because of CVD rich owners can tear up rule book and go wild in the aisles. Just storing up the problem for another day taking that route
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 3, 2020 8:16:38 GMT
I completely get the business is business argument but this is our National game we're talking about. Some things you just don't let die.
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 3, 2020 8:20:55 GMT
I would not be against feeder system I have thought it would make sense and would not be against that.l idea as everyone wins. Personally think that’s different to a bailout I can’t get my head round why clubs like Birmingham, derby, Wednesday and forest should get money to help them cover costs for crazy spending. Look at forest this season alone they have not let CVD stop them doubling there squad so why subsidise I’ve seen Few calls for FFP to be scrapped I could not disagree more. It’s times like this it’s even more important to have it. Owners should be allowed step in to cover current wages and costs of clubs, that’s fine, but no way should we just say because of CVD rich owners can tear up rule book and go wild in the aisles. Just storing up the problem for another day taking that route I agree with you that a feeder system is completely different to a bail out. The former makes sound fiscal sense, the latter does not. I disagree about FFP because for all it's pros it is still an intrinsically unfair system that ultimately creates an even wider gap between the wealthier and poorer clubs. "The road to hell is paved with good intentions" very much applies here. The name "Financial FAIR Play" is a total misnomer because it is fundamentally UNfair. The intention behind the system is a good one. It's execution is not as it's been very poorly thought out. |
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Post by West Acton on Oct 6, 2020 10:31:27 GMT
I know we don’t like politics and many feel gov are doing good job during cvd but surely this shows just how shambolic and disjointed there handling has been.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Oct 6, 2020 10:36:50 GMT
That is fucking ridiculous.
I get that this is a completely unprecedented situation which is why the goalposts keep being shifted but that one is utter bollocks.
Open air stadium or enclosed cinema? Which one is more likely to see the virus spread even with social distancing?
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 6, 2020 10:45:10 GMT
For stadiums you have to have bubbles and avoid people congregating in small concourses. Tight queues at kiosks and turnstiles, toilets etc. You'd need ways round all that.
Large cinema multiplexes perhaps it's easier to have social distancing, but don't see how you can mask up whilst eating popcorn and nachos. They're no different to any eating establishment in that regard where you obviously can't wear a mask.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Oct 6, 2020 10:57:47 GMT
For stadiums you have to have bubbles and avoid people congregating in small concourses. Tight queues at kiosks and turnstiles, toilets etc. You'd need ways round all that. Large cinema multiplexes perhaps it's easier to have social distancing, but don't see how you can mask up whilst eating popcorn and nachos. They're no different to any eating establishment in that regard where you obviously can't wear a mask. You'd still have to have those bubbles in the actual screen though surely? It'd be tough to avoid getting close to people walking up and down the stairs to the seats. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 6, 2020 11:14:51 GMT
You'd still have to have those bubbles in the actual screen though surely? It'd be tough to avoid getting close to people walking up and down the stairs to the seats. Yes, I'd assume that's a given. Coffee shops, restaurants etc operate at reduced capacity, so don't see why cinemas should be any different. |
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Oct 6, 2020 11:33:05 GMT
You'd still have to have those bubbles in the actual screen though surely? It'd be tough to avoid getting close to people walking up and down the stairs to the seats. Yes, I'd assume that's a given. Coffee shops, restaurants etc operate at reduced capacity, so don't see why cinemas should be any different. They aren't different, I've been to the cinema a few times since they opened back up and to be honest they've done pretty well with the social disancing and stuff. I just don't see what the problem is with fans being back in stadiums as opposed to watching football in cinemas. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Oct 6, 2020 11:35:51 GMT
I just don't care anymore,virus goes away when u shut everything,comes back when u open.
We cant keep living like this,if u need to shield,shield. Rest of us crack on. Yep some younger healthy people will die,but Christ people die day in out. I dont care who's in charge anymore either,they all lie and much of a much.
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Post by Hitman34 on Oct 8, 2020 19:11:59 GMT
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 9, 2020 18:35:45 GMT
I just don't care anymore,virus goes away when u shut everything,comes back when u open. We cant keep living like this,if u need to shield,shield. Rest of us crack on. Yep some younger healthy people will die,but Christ people die day in out. I dont care who's in charge anymore either,they all lie and much of a much. Difficult to argue with this. Just coming to end of 3 weeks on Fuerteventura and I'm safer here than my local Morrisons. Difference is Spanish rules, some of which are plain daft, are clear, consistent and enforced by the island police and civil guard so people know where they stand unlike with Cummings and his cast of idiots constantly changing their approach. Some businesses have gone bust but most are toughing it out and getting as innovative as possible to keep going within the rules. |
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Post by West Acton on Oct 15, 2020 18:57:33 GMT
Government decisions just get more and more weird
No fans at games but can have fans in stadium for live beam back when your shutting down the country. What a shambles
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Post by Hitman34 on Oct 15, 2020 19:20:29 GMT
he will be there..........
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Post by itsonlyagame on Oct 15, 2020 19:53:06 GMT
They might have been given special dispensation.
Decades of inbreeding means they are probably all related to each other so only count as a single family bubble.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Oct 16, 2020 11:34:37 GMT
So...they aren't allowed to go to a home game at a stadium...but they are allowed to watch an away game on the big screen in a stadium...
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Post by West Acton on Oct 16, 2020 11:37:03 GMT
So...they aren't allowed to go to a home game at a stadium...but they are allowed to watch an away game on the big screen in a stadium... 🤔 crazy Ginge no sense |
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Post by West Acton on Oct 20, 2020 10:42:49 GMT
And there doing additional four games
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Post by West Acton on Oct 20, 2020 10:44:04 GMT
There home games too??
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Oct 20, 2020 11:44:15 GMT
No reason why we can't do the same surely? Would generate a little extra revenue screening away games wouldn't it?
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Post by Corbray on Oct 20, 2020 12:09:05 GMT
giant flatscreens livestreaming the game will run the perimeter of the pitch |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Oct 20, 2020 12:18:05 GMT
Anyone from tier2 should be allowed to watch games at kps, tier 3 and 1,names not down u ain't coming in!
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Post by spongeparr on Oct 20, 2020 12:57:22 GMT
It's watching it inside the ground, so in the corporate bits I believe. They did it for the home games but with the curtains down.
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