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Post by hubble on Nov 7, 2023 12:01:02 GMT
Chelsea spurs game was mental 😂 Jackson scored a hat trick but he’s possibly one of the worst finishers I’ve even seen in my life how many chances did he squander. First time I’ve seen scum player 21yr old Palmer, he cost £50m from Man City, he did nothing all game for me. I've watched Palmer play a few times now, he's bloody good. Woudn't be surprised if he was on the fringes of the England team soon.
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Post by West Acton on Nov 7, 2023 12:21:58 GMT
First time I’ve seen scum player 21yr old Palmer, he cost £50m from Man City, he did nothing all game for me. I've watched Palmer play a few times now, he's bloody good. Woudn't be surprised if he was on the fringes of the England team soon.
I think he looks tidy player. Not sure he’s 50mil One player who grafts is Gallagher he seems to be growing into the team. |
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Post by West Acton on Nov 17, 2023 12:25:27 GMT
Ouch
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Post by 2Loftus on Nov 17, 2023 13:19:23 GMT
Guessing with the inconsistent and spineless football authorities, Everton will appeal the decision and have 4 of those 10 points suspended, leaving them with a net deduction of 6 points. |
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Post by Bill on Nov 17, 2023 14:57:54 GMT
So we get a massive fine which has crippled the club.
Everton get 10 point deduction.
Man city. Tbc if they the FA have the balls.
Our punishment totally inconsistant,disprortionate,unrealistic,inconsistant and scandalous.
Nearly putting us out of business.
FA like those in Westminister bunch of old farts.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Nov 17, 2023 15:27:39 GMT
Seen reports saying Everton might well be being sued by Burnley, Leicester and Leeds for 300mil.
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Post by MattyRangers on Nov 17, 2023 15:45:12 GMT
Reckon they'll still stay up tbh, some real gash down the bottom of that league this year.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Nov 17, 2023 18:10:07 GMT
The interesting thing is a lot of experts are saying Everton’s offence is relatively minor compared to Man City and Chelsea - the Guardian did a big investigation into the latter this week which revealed off the book transfers, the lot, blatant stuff - and they are saying that if Everton got 10 points, the big boys should be punished with relegation.
Massive test for the Premier League
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Post by acricketer on Nov 17, 2023 23:39:16 GMT
We'll be playing City and Chelsea next season if we stay up!
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Post by alanwycombe on Nov 18, 2023 6:27:44 GMT
Wouldn’t mind betting they are smarter than the Prem etc.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2023 9:26:10 GMT
The interesting thing is a lot of experts are saying Everton’s offence is relatively minor compared to Man City and Chelsea - the Guardian did a big investigation into the latter this week which revealed off the book transfers, the lot, blatant stuff - and they are saying that if Everton got 10 points, the big boys should be punished with relegation. Massive test for the Premier League The problem behind that argument is that City and Chelsea are quite clever with their cheating and Everton, like we were, were rather shit at it. |
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Post by Bill on Nov 18, 2023 12:37:46 GMT
The interesting thing is a lot of experts are saying Everton’s offence is relatively minor compared to Man City and Chelsea - the Guardian did a big investigation into the latter this week which revealed off the book transfers, the lot, blatant stuff - and they are saying that if Everton got 10 points, the big boys should be punished with relegation. Massive test for the Premier League The problem behind that argument is that City and Chelsea are quite clever with their cheating and Everton, like we were, were rather shit at it. More ignorant and not keeping up with ffp regs. |
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Post by Bill on Nov 18, 2023 12:38:39 GMT
We'll be playing City and Chelsea next season if we stay up! Love that,doubt it in reality though. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Nov 18, 2023 12:46:38 GMT
Simple, the super rich clubs should just go and play each other in a rich league. Then let football get back to it with whom is left
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Post by Bill on Nov 21, 2023 22:30:12 GMT
Its amazing the media frenzy re ffp coming because Everton,Chelsea and city have or will be getting penalties.
Little old QPR as i remember got very little coverage and hammered by the media.
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Post by acricketer on Nov 21, 2023 23:44:10 GMT
Newcatle can now cherry pick from Saudi. Football as was is gone. Why do people make it matter any more?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2023 23:49:33 GMT
Newcatle can now cherry pick from Saudi. Football as was is gone. Why do people make it matter any more? It's all a load of bollocks now. |
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Post by MattyRangers on Nov 22, 2023 11:15:48 GMT
The interesting thing is a lot of experts are saying Everton’s offence is relatively minor compared to Man City and Chelsea - the Guardian did a big investigation into the latter this week which revealed off the book transfers, the lot, blatant stuff - and they are saying that if Everton got 10 points, the big boys should be punished with relegation. Massive test for the Premier League The problem behind that argument is that City and Chelsea are quite clever with their cheating and Everton, like we were, were rather shit at it. The latest episode of The Rest is Football podcast is really good in this regard; discusses (in layman's terms) the Eveton & City situations & why they differ / City's is taking so much longer. Everton were incredibly 'stupid' in theirs. Their 3 year reported loss was actually in the region of £300m, but they had c£180m 'discounted' as allowable due to being linked to infrastructure / new stadium. Although tbh for what it is worth I fundamentally disagree with the FFP rules anyway. The way we are deeming clubs 'cheats' because they are spending money? In years gone by that was simply the norm. Blackburn wouldn't have won the PL without splashing the cash. Chelsea wouldn't have won their trophies in the Roman era without spending silly amounts. IMHO if you have an owner willing to give it a go & throw some cash, then good for you. The current regs have simply cemented the status quo &, in essence, is the established 'big clubs' pulling the ladder up behind them. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Nov 22, 2023 12:20:02 GMT
The problem behind that argument is that City and Chelsea are quite clever with their cheating and Everton, like we were, were rather shit at it. The latest episode of The Rest is Football podcast is really good in this regard; discusses (in layman's terms) the Eveton & City situations & why they differ / City's is taking so much longer. Everton were incredibly 'stupid' in theirs. Their 3 year reported loss was actually in the region of £300m, but they had c£180m 'discounted' as allowable due to being linked to infrastructure / new stadium. Although tbh for what it is worth I fundamentally disagree with the FFP rules anyway. The way we are deeming clubs 'cheats' because they are spending money? In years gone by that was simply the norm. Blackburn wouldn't have won the PL without splashing the cash. Chelsea wouldn't have won their trophies in the Roman era without spending silly amounts. IMHO if you have an owner willing to give it a go & throw some cash, then good for you. The current regs have simply cemented the status quo &, in essence, is the established 'big clubs' pulling the ladder up behind them. Yes, we forget Blackburn started it😁 Great points Matty. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2023 12:35:21 GMT
The problem behind that argument is that City and Chelsea are quite clever with their cheating and Everton, like we were, were rather shit at it. The latest episode of The Rest is Football podcast is really good in this regard; discusses (in layman's terms) the Eveton & City situations & why they differ / City's is taking so much longer. Everton were incredibly 'stupid' in theirs. Their 3 year reported loss was actually in the region of £300m, but they had c£180m 'discounted' as allowable due to being linked to infrastructure / new stadium. Although tbh for what it is worth I fundamentally disagree with the FFP rules anyway. The way we are deeming clubs 'cheats' because they are spending money? In years gone by that was simply the norm. Blackburn wouldn't have won the PL without splashing the cash. Chelsea wouldn't have won their trophies in the Roman era without spending silly amounts. IMHO if you have an owner willing to give it a go & throw some cash, then good for you. The current regs have simply cemented the status quo &, in essence, is the established 'big clubs' pulling the ladder up behind them. I can understand arguments made both in favour and against FFP to be honest. FFP clearly has the best intentions in mind and are designed to protect clubs like us - I would argue - from unscrupulous owners who could kill the club but there must also be clear cut rules and no better ways to cheat. I do understand why some point to the Jack Walker influence at Blackburn and some further beyond that through many eras to the start of the Football League where P.N.E far from being the invincibles just had more money to entice the better Scottish players down, but we're now in an era where its gone beyond a successful local businessman boosting a local club and into the hands of State ownership. The solution is cleary a Super League where clubs can spend what they want but there must be strict rules to ensure those of us left behind don't die because of crap owners. |
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Post by Timmy Doc on Nov 22, 2023 14:24:22 GMT
Let them spend in the Premier and Championship as well as long as the debt doesn't exceed certain specified amounts.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2023 14:44:44 GMT
Let them spend in the Premier and Championship as well as long as the debt doesn't exceed certain specified amounts. That's what FFP sets out to achieve to be fair. The problem is that some clubs know how to bend the rules and others with capacities of 19,000 buy Brazilian internationals and players from Real Madrid... |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Nov 22, 2023 17:50:52 GMT
Yeah it is extraordinary that we have only worken up to the stadium naming rights wheeze a good decade after half the Premier League used the idea.
At the risk of suggesting underhand practices, how difficult could it be for businessmen with companies and bank accounts in multiple geos to subsidise some transfer deals at least partially off the book...?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2023 18:40:55 GMT
Yeah it is extraordinary that we have only worken up to the stadium naming rights wheeze a good decade after half the Premier League used the idea. At the risk of suggesting underhand practices, how difficult could it be for businessmen with companies and bank accounts in multiple geos to subsidise some transfer deals at least partially off the book...? It would be very difficult unless they're doing it smartly. We could have a company sponsor every seat in the stadium, substitution announcements, time added on announcements etc. There are obvious ways to cheat but, as you say, we were too busy dangling our wealth like that chav who won the lottery and lost it all. |
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Post by Bill on Nov 25, 2023 12:23:17 GMT
Next VAR cockups about to start.
Maybe some company could sponser them.
4 pundits talk about overkill.
Add a ref who is questionable should be interesting.
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Post by West Acton on Nov 26, 2023 14:59:16 GMT
What an amazing ball in from virtually the half way line for villa equaliser and we can’t even pick a cross when we’re in the box
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Post by acricketer on Nov 26, 2023 16:27:26 GMT
I don't understand why Newcastle still have to pay Tonali's wages while he serves a 10 month ban/holiday?
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Post by acricketer on Nov 26, 2023 16:53:48 GMT
Is Garnaco's goal just now better than Trevor Sinclair's?
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Post by Bill on Nov 26, 2023 17:26:47 GMT
Is Garnaco's goal just now better than Trevor Sinclair's? No Sinclair further out and cross travelled a shorter distance imo. |
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Post by Bill on Nov 26, 2023 17:41:19 GMT
Is Garnaco's goal just now better than Trevor Sinclair's? [b Ref in that game is beyond hopeless. |
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