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Post by hal9thou on Mar 18, 2021 20:19:44 GMT
Ah yes, Emile Heskey, the original false 9..... Good link up player, could drag defenders out of position. The main thing he has in common with Dykes is that neither are really out and out box merchants (madam).
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Post by Tarbie on Mar 18, 2021 20:57:39 GMT
There is a difference between a "False 9" and a striker that never scores! 😂
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Post by hal9thou on Mar 18, 2021 22:28:59 GMT
There is a difference between a "False 9" and a striker that never scores! 😂 but Heskey played like a modern false 9, that was the point.... and he also had prolonged periods without scoring. Just like our boy, whose best work is also outside the box. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 19, 2021 8:06:52 GMT
I think we're losing a bit of perspective with Dykes based on a reasonable 45 mins against Millwall. I hope he comes good, I hope he buries the Fakes tomorrow, but the fact remains it's the end of March ffs, he's played in nearly every game and he has ONE goal from open play - if he was a kid everyone would be screaming for him to be sent out on loan to learn the game. And for a player who has no positional sense and a poor first touch to be considered for a deeper role or MF is bizarre. I hope that playing with Charlie eventually has a positive effect on him and his Scotland call up gives him a boost.
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 19, 2021 8:42:51 GMT
If you read the original posts in this thread, especially mine and 73's, they pose the question has Warburton's coaching ruined him or was he just a flash in the pan?
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 19, 2021 8:52:15 GMT
Given the proper coaching you could turn Dykes from a £1.5 million player into a £10,£15 eventually a £20 million player. He could reach the same levels as Mitrovic of Fulham, at least, within a couple of seasons, pretty quickly. If you know how to do it. Resurrected as a nod to Comic Relief today.... 😁 |
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Post by Tarbie on Mar 19, 2021 10:01:30 GMT
This is quite an interesting question Alan. Let's be honest, from day one Dykes hasn't really looked like Warburton's type of player. A bit more old school number 9 than the sort of footballer you'd assume Warburton would want.
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Post by Shania on Mar 19, 2021 10:08:39 GMT
For large spells BOS and Chair I.e. refused to pass to him. I`m not sure that did his confidence any good.
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Post by acricketer on Mar 19, 2021 10:11:36 GMT
For large spells BOS and Chair I.e. refused to pass to him. I`m not sure that did his confidence any good. TBF they don't pass to anyone. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 19, 2021 10:14:19 GMT
Also has to be said that once crosses do come in he's usually in the wrong place to attack them. Austin doesn't have a problem.
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Post by Shania on Mar 19, 2021 13:23:59 GMT
Also has to be said that once crosses do come in he's usually in the wrong place to attack them. Austin doesn't have a problem. I was referring to passing generally  |
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Post by Hitman34 on Mar 19, 2021 14:39:08 GMT
For large spells BOS and Chair I.e. refused to pass to him. I`m not sure that did his confidence any good. Even the other night, clear through on goal twice and austin refuses to play the ball to him. It says all we need to know really. |
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Post by hal9thou on Mar 19, 2021 17:40:44 GMT
A bit more old school number 9 than the sort of footballer youd assume Warburton would want. Ironical really considering the very first thing Warburton did was ditch Big Smith as being surplus to requirements, the arrogance of it..... Mind you that was back when he still thought playing out come what may was the answer. The thing that no one at the club understood is that Dykes isn't a 9 at all. |
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Post by hal9thou on Mar 19, 2021 19:02:05 GMT
Given the proper coaching you could turn Dykes from a £1.5 million player into a £10,£15 eventually a £20 million player. He could reach the same levels as Mitrovic of Fulham, at least, within a couple of seasons, pretty quickly. If you know how to do it. Resurrected as a nod to Comic Relief today.... 😁 I missed that gem first time round..... |
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Post by lymehoop on Mar 20, 2021 11:40:19 GMT
I think he'll come good, starting with a goal against the fakes
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Post by Hitman34 on Mar 20, 2021 14:41:42 GMT
I think he'll come good, starting with a goal against the fakes he needs to have a shot first. i would be happy for a shot on target |
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Post by Corbray on Mar 20, 2021 15:48:19 GMT
I think he'll come good, starting with a goal against the fakes he needs to have a shot first. i would be happy for a shot on target he done did it |
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Post by Greg1882 on Mar 20, 2021 15:51:38 GMT
Delighted for him. Well done lad
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Post by 1973ranger on Mar 20, 2021 16:40:49 GMT
Hoping he gets a bit of confidence now and starts to find the net more between now and the end of the season.
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Post by 1qprdk on Mar 20, 2021 17:23:05 GMT
Still some way to a £20 million player, but sure looking better now.
#comebackrscott
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Post by Tarbie on Mar 20, 2021 18:03:04 GMT
Happy for Dykes. He's done very well last couple of games. Seems a real confidence player though. Totally different player when his heads down.
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Post by hal9thou on Mar 21, 2021 20:51:48 GMT
Happy for Dykes. He's done very well last couple of games. Seems a real confidence player though. Totally different player when his heads down. Still not convinced that he's an out and out striker, but delighted he's stuck one in the net from open play. |
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Post by Corbray on Mar 22, 2021 10:38:09 GMT
Happy for Dykes. He's done very well last couple of games. Seems a real confidence player though. Totally different player when his heads down. Still not convinced that he's an out and out striker, but delighted he's stuck one in the net from open play. tbh i don't know what his best position is either lol, he doesn't seem to have that killer instinct that strikers need but he's also a great team player. if he gets his confidence back and can learn to use his physicality properly then he could be a good holdup player. i can't see him as a DM though as he doesn't have a good first touch, heck, everygame you see him knock the ball too far or lose it right away when he's pressed. i still see a player in him though and think he deserves a shot, maybe he's just settling in and will find his groove next season. i hope so anyway lol. |
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Post by 2Loftus on Mar 28, 2021 19:00:30 GMT
Pleased to see he's on the bench tonight - though would like him to get 20-30 minutes.
Last international window he was seen as the new Scotland saviour - usual ridiculous media hype.
Let's hope he gets his head right, has realistic expectations for club and country and gets down to some hard work with Chas before he goes back tot West Brom (if he goes back of course...).
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Post by acricketer on Mar 31, 2021 20:49:25 GMT
Hoiked after 68' v. Faroe Islands
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 11, 2021 8:12:46 GMT
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Post by 1973ranger on Apr 11, 2021 9:49:52 GMT
Pleased for Dykes and hope he carries it on for the rest of the season. 1st goal yesterday was a very good header and his all round game has been good these last 6 games or so.
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Post by itsonlyagame on Apr 11, 2021 13:34:46 GMT
Can’t help thinking he would have preferred to use his middle finger for some of our fans. |
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Post by Shania on Apr 11, 2021 13:40:03 GMT
Most of us fans, to be fair. Personally, I was close to lose faith in him completly.
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Post by itsonlyagame on Apr 11, 2021 13:59:03 GMT
Most of us fans, to be fair. Personally, I was close to lose faith in him completly. To be fair to you Shania, fans have a right to be critical and voice an opinion. And let’s face it, his goal scoring record wasn’t anywhere near where you want a strikers to be. A few fans went too far with their criticism though, as they usually do while hiding behind a keyboard. |
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