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Post by The General on Nov 27, 2020 22:09:34 GMT
We need a Danny Maddix
Wot a player he was exactly what we need
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Post by The General on Nov 27, 2020 22:12:32 GMT
Thought we were excellent in the first half def the better team but second half not great but overall we played pretty well
We have already conceded more goals from set pieces than any other club
Fuck me where is Clint hill so needed it hurts
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Post by The General on Nov 27, 2020 22:27:40 GMT
Have to say we looked excellent in the first half proper good team
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Post by 1973ranger on Nov 27, 2020 22:42:12 GMT
MW far too slow with the subs as anyone could see we were being overun in midfield once they changed the system. Poor second goal we gave them which spoiled an otherwise decent away performance against a team who are rated higher than they really are.
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Post by West Acton on Nov 28, 2020 6:16:14 GMT
Your right 73 yesterday was actually the type of game where Dom Ball comes off the bench as the disrupter and shores us up. He’s not the same player or we don’t seem get the same performances when he starts
I said before kick of when team come out would have liked to have seen Cameron and think we did miss him second half.
If he’s injured and Carroll looked like he done hammy at the end we might be bit light in the centre going into Christmas
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Post by 1973ranger on Nov 28, 2020 9:38:41 GMT
Your right 73 yesterday was actually the type of game where Dom Ball comes off the bench as the disrupter and shores us up. He’s not the same player or we don’t seem get the same performances when he starts I said before kick of when team come out would have liked to have seen Cameron and think we did miss him second half. If he’s injured and Carroll looked like he done hammy at the end we might be bit light in the centre going into Christmas We were the better side and had we changed system to counter them in midfield then they do not get a foothold in the game and the 2nd goal is not likely to happen. Poor from MW as it was clear to anyone watching that they took charge of the game, I would have hooked chair and beefed up the midfield to help TC and Ball out. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 28, 2020 10:02:56 GMT
Your right 73 yesterday was actually the type of game where Dom Ball comes off the bench as the disrupter and shores us up. He’s not the same player or we don’t seem get the same performances when he starts I said before kick of when team come out would have liked to have seen Cameron and think we did miss him second half. If he’s injured and Carroll looked like he done hammy at the end we might be bit light in the centre going into Christmas We were the better side and had we changed system to counter them in midfield then they do not get a foothold in the game and the 2nd goal is not likely to happen. Poor from MW as it was clear to anyone watching that they took charge of the game, I would have hooked chair and beefed up the midfield to help TC and Ball out. This was very clear at HT. Thomas Frank completely changed formation at the start of the 2nd half in response to our 1st half threat. He didn't wait until 60-70 mins - that's the difference between the two managers - one proactive, the other reactive. He immediately changed to 3 at the back with FBs pushing up. Warbs responded with too little too late, they take back control of the game and end up winning. Common theme. You can argue that we don't have the quality players at the disposal they do, but at the same time does Warbs have the same level of tactical nous and courage? |
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Post by rscot on Nov 28, 2020 10:13:10 GMT
What I will say about last night performance and the last 2 or 3 performances, is the team seem to be starting to gel, they seem to be playing as a team now rather than a collection of individuals. They were working hard for each other, for the team. It was always going to take some time for the squad to gel together but judging by recent performances it seems to be happening, so hopefully we will see more and more performances at yesterday’s level going forward
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Post by The General on Nov 28, 2020 11:48:29 GMT
Brentford fans saying that was the best QPR performance for along time and we looked very good
Also said that if they hadn't changed formation and subs in second half they would have lost
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Post by The General on Nov 28, 2020 11:48:59 GMT
Pretty honest opinions from them tbf
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Nov 28, 2020 11:49:33 GMT
We were the better side and had we changed system to counter them in midfield then they do not get a foothold in the game and the 2nd goal is not likely to happen. Poor from MW as it was clear to anyone watching that they took charge of the game, I would have hooked chair and beefed up the midfield to help TC and Ball out. This was very clear at HT. Thomas Frank completely changed formation at the start of the 2nd half in response to our 1st half threat. He didn't wait until 60-70 mins - that's the difference between the two managers - one proactive, the other reactive. He immediately changed to 3 at the back with FBs pushing up. Warbs responded with too little too late, they take back control of the game and end up winning. Common theme. You can argue that we don't have the quality players at the disposal they do, but at the same time does Warbs have the same level of tactical nous and courage? You really don't rate him do you? What about games earlier in the season when his subs made a difference? |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Nov 28, 2020 11:51:01 GMT
What I will say about last night performance and the last 2 or 3 performances, is the team seem to be starting to gel, they seem to be playing as a team now rather than a collection of individuals. They were working hard for each other, for the team. It was always going to take some time for the squad to gel together but judging by recent performances it seems to be happening, so hopefully we will see more and more performances at yesterday’s level going forward I agree and gutted we lost Amos who was starting to be an integral cog in the team. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Nov 28, 2020 11:53:27 GMT
Always the bridesmaid,or for equal opportunity,page boy.
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 28, 2020 12:01:12 GMT
This was very clear at HT. Thomas Frank completely changed formation at the start of the 2nd half in response to our 1st half threat. He didn't wait until 60-70 mins - that's the difference between the two managers - one proactive, the other reactive. He immediately changed to 3 at the back with FBs pushing up. Warbs responded with too little too late, they take back control of the game and end up winning. Common theme. You can argue that we don't have the quality players at the disposal they do, but at the same time does Warbs have the same level of tactical nous and courage? You really don't rate him do you? What about games earlier in the season when his subs made a difference? I rate him, but just try to be honest and objective about his shortcomings, which all managers have to varying degrees. It's nuanced. I've often praised him when I've felt it's warranted. He's our best manager since Warnock. I was asking the question if he was tactically outwitted last night by Frank, which I think is a perfectly fair question to ask. I'm obviously also frustrated by last night's loss as I believe we were definitely good for a point. |
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Post by 72bus on Nov 28, 2020 13:03:45 GMT
Bees had a good shape 2nd half and we never got into it and disrupted it . All the pretty passing in our own half leads to nothing . The long balls to dykes either went over his head or he was beaten by well drilled CHs . We don't move the ball quickly enough and with purpose . Example chair will receive the ball and twist and turn then play it backwards.
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Post by alanwycombe on Nov 28, 2020 13:29:52 GMT
Bees had a good shape 2nd half and we never got into it and disrupted it . All the pretty passing in our own half leads to nothing . The long balls to dykes either went over his head or he was beaten by well drilled CHs . We don't move the ball quickly enough and with purpose . Example chair will receive the ball and twist and turn then play it backwards. Exactly my point in another thread about consistency. Against Rotherham first half they did get forward quickly and Chair didn't go backwards. Looked a different team. |
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Post by rscot on Nov 28, 2020 14:18:18 GMT
Thought Chair played well last night, but I’d like to see another attacking centre mid brought in either during January or at the end of the season, competition would be good.
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Post by hal9thou on Nov 28, 2020 15:14:25 GMT
Also said that if they hadn't changed formation and subs in second half they would have lost
But that's exactly the problem. Their manager reacted, and when things changed ours did not.
He was outsmarted. We lost it off the park.
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Post by alanwycombe on Nov 28, 2020 15:31:06 GMT
Brentford fans saying that was the best QPR performance for along time and we looked very good Also said that if they hadn't changed formation and subs in second half they would have lost Are they also saying they were lucky not to go down to 10 men for the clearest sending off they'll see this season? |
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Post by The General on Nov 28, 2020 17:20:23 GMT
Brentford fans saying that was the best QPR performance for along time and we looked very good Also said that if they hadn't changed formation and subs in second half they would have lost Are they also saying they were lucky not to go down to 10 men for the clearest sending off they'll see this season? Yes Alan they are also saying that They are saying it was a def red card just to answer your question |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Nov 29, 2020 0:43:58 GMT
Also said that if they hadn't changed formation and subs in second half they would have lost
But that's exactly the problem. Their manager reacted, and when things changed ours did not.
He was outsmarted. We lost it off the park.
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Post by West Acton on Nov 29, 2020 8:33:57 GMT
Also said that if they hadn't changed formation and subs in second half they would have lost
But that's exactly the problem. Their manager reacted, and when things changed ours did not.
He was outsmarted. We lost it off the park.
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Post by alanwycombe on Nov 29, 2020 10:26:58 GMT
General does have a point though. You can't see MW making changes like that to alter the course of a game when you are being outplayed like we did them first half. How many comments on here have been about no plan B? It was good management even if they did rely on the ref😁
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Post by 1973ranger on Nov 29, 2020 11:24:30 GMT
General does have a point though. You can't see MW making changes like that to alter the course of a game when you are being outplayed like we did them first half. How many comments on here have been about no plan B? It was good management even if they did rely on the ref😁 The team played well first half and should have been playing against 10 men but for a homer of a ref, 2nd half old wrigleys changed if for them and our guy just did not react to the change even after we went behind as we were overun in midfield for the whole of the half. You cannot rely on playing the same way when you are not winning the ball back. |
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Post by Bill on Nov 29, 2020 12:50:58 GMT
General does have a point though. You can't see MW making changes like that to alter the course of a game when you are being outplayed like we did them first half. How many comments on here have been about no plan B? It was good management even if they did rely on the ref😁 The team played well first half and should have been playing against 10 men but for a homer of a ref, 2nd half old wrigleys changed if for them and our guy just did not react to the change even after we went behind as we were overun in midfield for the whole of the half. You cannot rely on playing the same way when you are not winning the ball back. Exactly this they brought on that git Jansen played 3 at the back and pushed full backs on. They flooded midfield as a consequence and took control. MW did nothing in response and left subs to long. I didn't say this earlier in the thread for fear of criticising him. At least we were good 1st half and in his favour we did go for it but to little to late. This line of posts is becoming far to familiar and a regular comment. Maybe our midfield is just a tad slow and weak when the chips are down. Ps the ref was shit as usual,sends their bloke off first half,totally different game which is why the game itself is losing its appeal to me. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Nov 29, 2020 13:10:07 GMT
The team played well first half and should have been playing against 10 men but for a homer of a ref, 2nd half old wrigleys changed if for them and our guy just did not react to the change even after we went behind as we were overun in midfield for the whole of the half. You cannot rely on playing the same way when you are not winning the ball back. Exactly this they brought on that git Jansen played 3 at the back and pushed full backs on. They flooded midfield as a consequence and took control. MW did nothing in response and left subs to long. I didn't say this earlier in the thread for fear of criticising him. At least we were good 1st half and in his favour we did go for it but to little to late. This line of posts is becoming far to familiar and a regular comment. Maybe our midfield is just a tad slow and weak when the chips are down. Ps the ref was shit as usual,sends their bloke off first half,totally different game which is why the game itself is losing its appeal to me. I really empathise with your last point Bill. Fans have always moaned about refs but they are getting so bad now. It may be that they are constrained by the letter of the law instead of the spirit but yesterday's decision was just blatantly wrong and Warbs, any manager, should be free to call that out without fear of repercussions. Then you get that so called penalty at Brighton. No intent, they kicked each other ffs, and a team loses 2 points. |
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Post by Shania on Nov 29, 2020 15:38:51 GMT
Brentford fans are thinking they have a fair chance of getting BOS in....
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Post by rscot on Nov 29, 2020 17:34:45 GMT
Brentford fans are thinking they have a fair chance of getting BOS in.... What is the situation with BOS? Will QPR get any money for him if he leaves? |
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Post by Shania on Nov 29, 2020 17:57:44 GMT
Brentford fans are thinking they have a fair chance of getting BOS in.... What is the situation with BOS? Will QPR get any money for him if he leaves? It now appears that he doesn`t want to sign a contract extension. Hence it looks like a tribunal will decide how much we will get for him; due to his age I guess? |
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Post by rscot on Nov 29, 2020 18:11:05 GMT
What is the situation with BOS? Will QPR get any money for him if he leaves? It now appears that he doesn`t want to sign a contract extension. Hence it looks like a tribunal will decide how much we will get for him; due to his age I guess? Cheers 👍 |
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