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Post by Timmy Doc on Dec 12, 2020 18:06:43 GMT
We got shit defenders and as shit strikers. So no ifs maybys Etc . If I didn't have a penis I'd be a girl. How many chances did QPR create today? I only seen the 1st half and for all the possession the team had, very few chances were created. Why is Chair still taking set pieces when he is clearly shit at them? Again potential goal scoring opportunities wasted because Chair has to be the man. Has he delivered a good corner or free kick this season? I can’t remember 1, but the manager still allows him to take all set pieces. Things like that, can cost you games, get you a draw etc, thin margins at this level. Reading like Millwall were there for the taking today at least from what I saw in the first half. Exactly. Also why is it so difficult for BOS to cross the ball into the box? He always tries to dribble it there. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Dec 12, 2020 18:16:09 GMT
We got shit defenders and as shit strikers. So no ifs maybys Etc . If I didn't have a penis I'd be a girl. Not necessarily. Ok I'd be Sam smith |
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Post by rodman on Dec 12, 2020 18:17:43 GMT
I and the league table would disagree with you Maybe but I think our performances have been good enough to win all games but three. With better defending and more efficient finishing we could easily be a top six team.Which is applicable to every team in the World occupying 7th place or lower. I respect your faith in MW but I believe we are witnessing, virtually twice a week, that he simply isn't the manager we all hoped he would be. |
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Post by rscot on Dec 12, 2020 18:18:38 GMT
Just to give you an idea of what a difference good set pieces can make.
Livingston signed Josh Mullin at the start of this season, he was a Livingston player a few seasons ago and is really good at set pieces, corners / free kicks. He has a good right foot on him. His stats this season so far:
In the league 10 appearances 4 assists all from corners and free kicks. What’s Chairs stats or QPR as a whole after 18 games?
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Post by James1979 on Dec 12, 2020 18:23:36 GMT
Saw your posts on LFW, sorry to hear that mate. Here’s to better 2021 for all (especially Us Rs!). Post little on lfw because I don’t conform to their cliques 😉 and love of graphs! Cheers Mate, yep both me and the Mrs made redundant within a week of each other last week and then my son getting the same treatment as well!. Gawd Blimey. Anyway sod all that karaoke, at least i've got QPR To cheer me up! PS, i think we're on the same page with LFW.. i tend to post a couple of times a month... There's only so many links to the guardian newspaper a man can stand!. There are some good people on there though. Clive has a bastard job keeping control of all the political commisars on there. I can only wish you best for 2021 mate! Sounds very shit. From personal experience I’ve found QPR has the habit of knocking you down further at lowest ebb. But the highs?! Better than than my night I had in Brixton in my 20s where I spent 2 days munching inside of my mouth off and couldnt eat any Christmas dinner. Yeah agree about LFW. Clive’s a brilliant writer too. Getting a bit too political in his old age though! |
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Post by James1979 on Dec 12, 2020 18:28:22 GMT
Just to give you an idea of what a difference good set pieces can make. Livingston signed Josh Mullin at the start of this season, he was a Livingston player a few seasons ago and is really good at set pieces, corners / free kicks. He has a good right foot on him. His stats this season so far: In the league 10 appearances 4 assists all from corners and free kicks. What’s Chairs stats or QPR as a whole after 18 games? I think we need to start with how many of his corners clear the first man. Sod assists. Small steps!😉 |
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Post by rscot on Dec 12, 2020 18:32:06 GMT
Just to give you an idea of what a difference good set pieces can make. Livingston signed Josh Mullin at the start of this season, he was a Livingston player a few seasons ago and is really good at set pieces, corners / free kicks. He has a good right foot on him. His stats this season so far: In the league 10 appearances 4 assists all from corners and free kicks. What’s Chairs stats or QPR as a whole after 18 games? I think we need to start with how many of his corners clear the first man. Sod assists. Small steps!😉 Exactly but he is still allowed to take them and it’s getting near 1/2 way through the season. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Dec 12, 2020 18:34:37 GMT
I think we need to start with ,we will have more cash next season as we won't need a new ground in div 1. Also the squad won't need changing as most just about up to that level.
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Post by alanwycombe on Dec 12, 2020 18:37:28 GMT
I think we need to start with ,we will have more cash next season as we won't need a new ground in div 1. Also the squad won't need changing as most just about up to that level. That assessment is far too close for comfort Leighsy |
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Post by Timmy Doc on Dec 12, 2020 18:39:04 GMT
Maybe but I think our performances have been good enough to win all games but three. With better defending and more efficient finishing we could easily be a top six team.Which is applicable to every team in the World occupying 7th place or lower. I respect your faith in MW but I believe we are witnessing, virtually twice a week, that he simply isn't the manager we all hoped he would be. Difficult to say. We seem to be so close to be a competitive team. Seems that we are very cloce to click. |
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Post by rscot on Dec 12, 2020 18:41:45 GMT
Which is applicable to every team in the World occupying 7th place or lower. I respect your faith in MW but I believe we are witnessing, virtually twice a week, that he simply isn't the manager we all hoped he would be. Difficult to say. We seem to be so close to be a competitive team. Seems that we are very cloce to click. That team will never “click” going forward unless Warburton can get Chair and BOS to start making better decisions for the team. And Warburton needs to tell Chair that he’s not taking the set pieces anymore. |
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Post by Timmy Doc on Dec 12, 2020 18:42:39 GMT
Just to give you an idea of what a difference good set pieces can make. Livingston signed Josh Mullin at the start of this season, he was a Livingston player a few seasons ago and is really good at set pieces, corners / free kicks. He has a good right foot on him. His stats this season so far: In the league 10 appearances 4 assists all from corners and free kicks. What’s Chairs stats or QPR as a whole after 18 games? Chair's stats are as poor as they can be. But that's nothing new. We have been poor in years. Remember Barton etc? |
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Post by rscot on Dec 12, 2020 18:46:43 GMT
Just to give you an idea of what a difference good set pieces can make. Livingston signed Josh Mullin at the start of this season, he was a Livingston player a few seasons ago and is really good at set pieces, corners / free kicks. He has a good right foot on him. His stats this season so far: In the league 10 appearances 4 assists all from corners and free kicks. What’s Chairs stats or QPR as a whole after 18 games? Chair's stats are as poor as they can be. But that's nothing new. We have been poor in years. Remember Barton etc? Well Warburton knows this, they analyse video footage and every stat imaginable. But Chair still takes the set pieces and refuses to move the ball quickly in the final 1/3. Warburtons either cannot get him to change his playing behavior or Chair cannot change and is a dimwit with regard to football intelligence. |
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Post by Timmy Doc on Dec 12, 2020 18:47:00 GMT
Difficult to say. We seem to be so close to be a competitive team. Seems that we are very cloce to click. That team will never “click” going forward unless Warburton can get Chair and BOS to start making better decisions for the team. And Warburton needs to tell Chair that he’s not taking the set pieces anymore. Amen to that. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Dec 12, 2020 18:55:27 GMT
Has to be brain dead to get nearly to Christmas watching Chair fuck up every free kick and corner. Carroll divides opinion but there is no denying the guy has a sweet left foot. He is useless at defending if we are counter attacked quickly so why isn't he taking dead ball kicks? How can manager, DOF, Ramsey, tea lady not see this?
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Post by Knocker on Dec 12, 2020 18:56:32 GMT
What has Betache got to do to get a few minutes on the pitch,?
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Post by rscot on Dec 12, 2020 18:58:16 GMT
The last time I saw QPR score from a set piece it was Dickie from a nice delivery from Willock. There’s other players in the team that can take set pieces, but they’re not given the chance and opportunities are wasted and in some cases opportunities for quick counter attacks are given to the opposition
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Post by Shania on Dec 12, 2020 19:03:53 GMT
What has Betache got to do to get a few minutes on the pitch,? He is clearly not one of Warburton`s favourites. Very strange. |
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Post by James1979 on Dec 12, 2020 19:03:55 GMT
Just to give you an idea of what a difference good set pieces can make. Livingston signed Josh Mullin at the start of this season, he was a Livingston player a few seasons ago and is really good at set pieces, corners / free kicks. He has a good right foot on him. His stats this season so far: In the league 10 appearances 4 assists all from corners and free kicks. What’s Chairs stats or QPR as a whole after 18 games? Chair's stats are as poor as they can be. But that's nothing new. We have been poor in years. Remember Barton etc? No fan of Barton. But he did offer more. Chair’s job is as a creative player only |
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Post by Timmy Doc on Dec 12, 2020 19:17:10 GMT
Chair's stats are as poor as they can be. But that's nothing new. We have been poor in years. Remember Barton etc? No fan of Barton. But he did offer more. Chair’s job is as a creative player only [br I thought Barton was the worst ever in set pieces. |
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Post by Timmy Doc on Dec 12, 2020 19:17:46 GMT
What has Betache got to do to get a few minutes on the pitch,? Who is he and have you seen him play? |
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Post by James1979 on Dec 12, 2020 19:19:32 GMT
No fan of Barton. But he did offer more. Chair’s job is as a creative player only [br I thought Barton was the worst ever in set pieces. He was bad but he did break up play and did defensive work well. His job in team was more than set pieces. Chair on other hand is there to create or score goals. Nothing more. |
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Post by rscot on Dec 12, 2020 19:22:18 GMT
Ok Livingston play a 4-2-3-1 and have been struggling for most of this season, our manager resigned a couple of weeks back and we have started improving in form, won the last 3 or 4 games in the cup and league.
Let’s look at Livingstons 3 attacking midfielders stats after 17 league games.
Josh Mullin (attacking midfield right) took a few weeks to get up to get his fitness levels up so has only played 10 games.
10 appearances, 4 assists
Scott Pittman (attacking midfield centre)
17 appearances, 4 goals, 2 assists
Alan Forest (attacking midfield left)
17 appearances, 3 goals
He’s just moved up a division and has scored a number of goals and had a few assists in cup games. But I’m just showing the league stats for these players.
Now Livingston have been struggling most of the season so far, in the league, as I said we’ve just started stringing a few results together since the manager resigned. So I would expect and hope that these stats for all 3 will begin to improve. It would be interesting to compare them with the stats of QPRs 3 attacking midfielders and see how they match up. As both teams have had difficult seasons so far. But I’d guess that the stats for Livingston 3 attacking midfielders are better than those of the QPR 3 attacking midfielders.
So roughly speaking these 3 attacking midfielders between them are either scoring a goal or providing an assist almost each game in a team which has been struggling to win games. 7 goals, 6 assists in total between the 3 of them.
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Post by alanwycombe on Dec 12, 2020 19:25:15 GMT
What has Betache got to do to get a few minutes on the pitch,? Who is he and have you seen him play? Played briefly in a League Cup tie a couple of years ago. Looked confident with a nice touch, not seen since. Came from Watford as a youngster. |
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Post by rscot on Dec 12, 2020 19:50:55 GMT
Ok here’s the stats as far after 18 league games, according to sites on the internet.
Bright (attacking midfielder right)
18 appearances, 2 goals, 3 assists
Chair ( attacking midfield centre)
18 appearances, 5 goals
Willock (attacking midfield left)
13 appearances, 1 assist
7 goals and 4 assists in total after 18 league matches.
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Post by rscot on Dec 12, 2020 20:15:09 GMT
Here’s a couple of attacking midfielders to compare with
Steve Lawless had a good season last season with Livingston, played almost all games as a attacking midfield right in a 4-2-3-1
In the league his stats were: 30 games, 8 goals, 6 assists
Martin Boyle, attacking midfield right plays for Hibs, who had an average season last year because they were “soft” in the centre of midfield. They have seemingly solved that this season.
So season 2019/20 he had 20 league appearances, 5 goals, 5 assists
This season Hibs are doing well
17 games, 5 goals, 3 assists
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Post by rscot on Dec 12, 2020 20:36:08 GMT
So roughly speaking a good attacking midfielder on form should be influencing with a goal or an assist 1 in 2 games. Any of the QPR 3 attacking midfielders near that?
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Post by West Acton on Dec 12, 2020 20:36:16 GMT
Just thinking about game and the two key moments. There player bends one in bottom corner when there is no pressure on the ball, from outside box; chair in exact same position and situation other end of the pitch hits the post
Small margins change games. We were told in pre match interview Reading don’t have much of the ball or many shots but they’re clinical when they do and we saw that. We on other had never take our chances
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Post by rscot on Dec 12, 2020 20:41:02 GMT
Just thinking about game and the two key moments. There player bends one in bottom corner when there is no pressure on the ball, from outside box; chair in exact same position and situation other end of the pitch hits the post Small margins change games. We were told in pre match interview Reading don’t have much of the ball or many shots but they’re clinical when they do and we saw that. We on other had never take our chances 18 games into the season, I believe that luck roughly evens itself out over the season. Look at the stats, QPR are not creating enough chances from midfield or set pieces. |
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Post by West Acton on Dec 12, 2020 20:41:36 GMT
Fuck me just watched post match interview and that commentator said exact same thing Warbs. I’m officially a cunt
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