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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 2, 2022 15:19:24 GMT
Still only 31 and two years left on his contract.
With a good pre-season behind him and recovered from his injury I say let's back him.
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Post by Bill on Jul 2, 2022 16:06:26 GMT
I'm really hoping a good rest and a decent pre-season sees Johansen recapture some of the form we saw of him during his loan spell. This might sound harsh, but I'd pick a new captain. Tell Stefan to concentrate on his own get and give someone who's more likely to start every week the armband. Games moved on hope he cuts it but I doubt it. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jul 2, 2022 17:36:45 GMT
He done like yday s pizza
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Post by sparks on Jul 29, 2022 15:03:07 GMT
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Post by 2Loftus on Jul 29, 2022 15:37:19 GMT
Great to see so many of our players getting support on here.
How about seeing how they do under the new manager and his coaching staff, new systems and fully recovered from injuries they were clearly carrying back end of last season?
At least given them 6-8 games FFS before slagging them off...
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Post by MattyRangers on Jul 29, 2022 15:55:49 GMT
I actually like Stef myself. Clearly he has no legs & as such needs to be played in a system to accommodate this. But I still think he has a better footballing brain & eye for a pass than most, if not all, of our other options.
If we can get him with Field & Amos around him I think we will see the best of him this season... (he says optimistically).
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 29, 2022 16:33:15 GMT
Great to see so many of our players getting support on here. How about seeing how they do under the new manager and his coaching staff, new systems and fully recovered from injuries they were clearly carrying back end of last season? At least given them 6-8 games FFS before slagging them off... Ha! Now there's a novel idea! 😃 |
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Post by hal9thou on Jul 29, 2022 21:31:05 GMT
Great to see so many of our players getting support on here. How about seeing how they do under the new manager and his coaching staff, new systems and fully recovered from injuries they were clearly carrying back end of last season? At least given them 6-8 games FFS before slagging them off... I'm not sure that saying his legs have gone constitutes slagging him off, because that happens to everyone sooner or later. Clearly he has no legs & as such needs to be played in a system to accommodate this. Exactly this. Question is whether we can afford to accommodate it player wise. Either way good luck to him, I hope he's out there moving like Frankel come Sat afternoon. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jul 29, 2022 21:36:41 GMT
Interesting final comment, said Blackburn "like us have one or two players who are interesting other teams so how they start the window might not be how they end it." Is he saying there has been some interest in our players? |
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Post by alanwycombe on Jul 29, 2022 21:56:30 GMT
Interesting final comment, said Blackburn "like us have one or two players who are interesting other teams so how they start the window might not be how they end it." Is he saying there has been some interest in our players? Hmm…..bit of diplomacy? |
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Post by Rangers77 on Jul 29, 2022 22:19:27 GMT
I could listen to this man all day. Here's hoping. |
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Post by acricketer on Jul 29, 2022 22:38:50 GMT
I could listen to this man all day. Here's hoping. .... until we lose! |
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Post by West Acton on Jul 30, 2022 8:32:16 GMT
Stefan remains one of the first names on the team sheet for me. When he’s firing he’s probably in the top five passers in this division. You don’t need legs to dictate the play if you don’t give the ball away and you got movement around you.
Pirlo never really left centre circle but pulled the strings and influenced every game
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 30, 2022 8:43:47 GMT
You don’t need legs to dictate the play if you don’t give the ball away and you got movement around you. Exactly. Loftus is spot on too. |
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Post by MattyRangers on Jul 30, 2022 8:53:49 GMT
I could listen to this man all day. Here's hoping. .... until we lose! lol was the same with MW. I always loved his interviews thought he spoke very openly & honestly & was clearly a very intelligent football man. But when you're losing games whatever they say infuriates you haha Without diving back into MW again though, I agree with 77, Beale speaks very well & I am hoping that is reflected in his style of football. |
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Post by MattyRangers on Jul 30, 2022 8:54:15 GMT
Stefan remains one of the first names on the team sheet for me. When he’s firing he’s probably in the top five passers in this division. You don’t need legs to dictate the play if you don’t give the ball away and you got movement around you. Pirlo never really left centre circle but pulled the strings and influenced every game With you 100% on this West. |
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Post by Bill on Jul 30, 2022 9:00:20 GMT
Movement,running in behind,finding space are all qualities we lacked last season.
Only time will tell.
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Post by Hitman34 on Jul 30, 2022 10:17:07 GMT
Big season for Torso this year.
He needs to lay a few ghosts to rest from last season.
He was clearly not up to par, and needs to demonstrate that he still has what it takes to be playing championship football.
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Post by hal9thou on Jul 30, 2022 10:38:48 GMT
You don’t need legs to dictate the play if you don’t give the ball away and you got movement around you. Exactly. Loftus is spot on too. Completely disagree. Even great sides have had problems carrying someone. He's gonnna be targetted every game. It's ludicrous to build a system around someone who is basically fucked, and thats what you have to do to look after them. Maybe he'll astonish us all and run around like a young Vieira. I hope so.
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Post by sparks on Jul 30, 2022 10:45:53 GMT
Am prepared to wait a few games but suspect him to be a second half sub, nothing in his pre season games suggest anything else.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 30, 2022 11:06:48 GMT
It's ludicrous to build a system around someone who is basically fucked Define "basically fucked"? 😅 Sure he's not the quickest but that's not necessarily an issue considering his role in the side. Shaun Derry wasn't the quickest either but again, that didn't matter much either. Both players in these examples (although they played different roles) had pacier players around them which didn't result in a net negative on the team. West Acton used the Pirlo example. Mine was just a bit closer to home lol. The fact is none of us know if SJ is fully over last season's injury. Time will tell. Hopefully he is but we simply don't know yet. |
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Post by West Acton on Jul 30, 2022 11:10:53 GMT
Has Stefan ever been pacey? Not imo so not sure if he’s slowed down a touch will make much of a difference to him
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Post by Corbray on Jul 30, 2022 11:25:19 GMT
Am prepared to wait a few games but suspect him to be a second half sub, nothing in his pre season games suggest anything else. i think his new role in preseason was a pretty good one personally, he just needs to get a bit more used to it. he's still a very good passer of the ball and with 3 in midfield this year the other 2 CMs can cover his running for him |
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Post by Shania on Jul 30, 2022 11:29:26 GMT
What`s wrong in England these days? Everything?
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Post by sparks on Jul 30, 2022 11:39:16 GMT
Am prepared to wait a few games but suspect him to be a second half sub, nothing in his pre season games suggest anything else. i think his new role in preseason was a pretty good one personally, he just needs to get a bit more used to it. he's still a very good passer of the ball and with 3 in midfield this year the other 2 CMs can cover his running for him The thing that worries me Corbray with MB encouraging Field to get forward when we lose possession having Johansen as the holding player is scary thought. I know that Field also isn’t the quickest but for me Johansen has previous for switching off and letting his man run off him quite easy. The only time I’ve seen Johansen tackle an opponent is with a body check or forearm smash. If I were Tomasson today I would get Dolan to stay close to Johansen and when possession is regained he will get a free straight run through MF at Dickie and Salter. |
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Post by 72bus on Jul 30, 2022 21:07:21 GMT
Was down the coast today , how did Johansen play ? .
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jul 31, 2022 7:58:25 GMT
My mate played against a well retired trev brooking in some Essex league many moons ago. Said he had no pace but u can’t get near him due to vision of playing the ball. Said he sprayed balls all over 99% pin point. Tbf he said for his then age amazing
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Post by 72bus on Jul 31, 2022 10:25:49 GMT
My mate played against a well retired trev brooking in some Essex league many moons ago. Said he had no pace but u can’t get near him due to vision of playing the ball. Said he sprayed balls all over 99% pin point. Tbf he said for his then age amazing tightly man mark and he's fooked |
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Post by jfrabbit on Jul 31, 2022 10:49:42 GMT
Was down the coast today , how did Johansen play ? . Poor again. |
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Post by sparks on Aug 10, 2022 7:59:01 GMT
Gave up on this player after just Six games last season, in each of the games he was directly responsible for us conceding, if you don’t believe me go back and look for yourself, Boro first goal on Saturday emphasises the point.
Johansen does a lot of hand waving when things don’t go well for the team but brings absolutely nothing to the table to change things.Well overdue to hanging his boots up at QPR.
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