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Post by jfrabbit on Feb 16, 2022 12:02:49 GMT
I’m still on the positive side that we can make the PL again but lots of alarm bells too. Squad size, lack of depth in problematic areas, 3 poor & inconsistent strikers, no plan B.
So if worst comes to worst, I will say we finally have players worth a few bob that we can sell and reinvest and build again. That’s one positive.
What would you say would be REALISTIC fees for our players on current worth?
Dunno if I’m way off here but I’d say;
Dykes - £6-7m for his international scoring record purely
Chair - £10-12m age on his side and clear ability
Willock - £11-13m genuinely believe he would go for big big £
Dieng - £8-10m AFCON champion & all round steady keeper
Barbet - £3-4m Too inconsistent for me but always fit to play
Dunne - £3-4m Reliable and a regular 7/10 player every game
Dickie - £3-4m same as above
Thoughts?
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 16, 2022 12:46:17 GMT
We tend to get raped over fees, clubs if we don’t go up will pillage us for a lot less
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Post by 1973ranger on Feb 16, 2022 12:49:07 GMT
Of that list Jimmy I would look at punting Dickie, Chair and Dieng especially at them prices.
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Post by jfrabbit on Feb 16, 2022 12:50:29 GMT
We tend to get raped over fees, clubs if we don’t go up will pillage us for a lot less Think that’s changed tbh mate now we have some football people dealing with matters and not pricks like Phil Beard. We got almost £20m for Eze with sell on clauses still. We’ve already taken £12m for Sterling and even have another small % sell on clause. I think we’re a lot more clued up now with regards to transfer fees. |
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Post by jfrabbit on Feb 16, 2022 12:52:33 GMT
Of that list Jimmy I would look at punting Dickie, Chair and Dieng especially at them prices. What kind of £ would you put them at realistically out of interest? I agree if there was any I’d cash in on would be the same although I’d be more inclined to want to keep Chair if possible. |
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Post by Tarbie on Feb 16, 2022 13:13:39 GMT
Joking ain't ya?
For starters, Barbet is out of contract and not showing much interest in doing anything to resolve that. Suspect he leaves on a free this summer.
Willock might be catching the eye of a few bigger clubs, but I personally don't think he's ready for the Prem yet.
The rest of the valuations are way out. Anybody who's watched us play regularly this season will realise that none of Dickie, Chair or Dykes are likely to survive any higher up the league's than where they currently are.
Dunne does have a future at a higher level in my opinion. But it's unlikely he's gonna sell for millions after 1 good season.
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Post by jfrabbit on Feb 16, 2022 13:34:17 GMT
Joking ain't ya? For starters, Barbet is out of contract and not showing much interest in doing anything to resolve that. Suspect he leaves on a free this summer. Willock might be catching the eye of a few bigger clubs, but I personally don't think he's ready for the Prem yet. The rest of the valuations are way out. Anybody who's watched us play regularly this season will realise that none of Dickie, Chair or Dykes are likely to survive any higher up the league's than where they currently are. Dunne does have a future at a higher level in my opinion. But it's unlikely he's gonna sell for millions after 1 good season. Fair enough 🤣🤣😂😂 |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 16, 2022 13:37:17 GMT
You’d be a shit car salesman for joe public🤓
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Post by West Acton on Feb 16, 2022 13:55:28 GMT
My views based solely on what I would be willing to pay for them if I was purchaser not what bulk of our fans think they are worth
Dykes - £2mil not sure there is great demand for strikers who rarely score or do anything else well
Chair - £4mil one footed, often makes bad decisions or loses ball
Willock - £15+ Mil only player who I think there coukd be eyes on from top flight and think most sides will want see one more season of him before biting
Dieng - £5+ mil funny market keepers
Barbet - out of contract but if was in contract £2mil max
Dunne - £4/5mil good defender but no pace and think that’s what sides look for now and that bumps up price
Dickie - £2mil maybe 3 max. Cant work this fella out looked quality but now seems to have hit a wall and looks pretty naive and clumsy
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Post by The General on Feb 16, 2022 14:15:57 GMT
Dykes - 3 million
Chair - 4 million
Willock - 7 million
Dieng - 4 million
Barbet - 1 million
Dunne - 2 million
Dickie - 4 million
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Post by West Acton on Feb 16, 2022 14:33:04 GMT
Dykes - 3 million Chair - 4 million Willock - 7 million Dieng - 4 million Barbet - 1 million Dunne - 2 million Dickie - 4 million interested why you rate Dickie above Dunne Gens? |
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Post by Rangers77 on Feb 16, 2022 16:56:15 GMT
I honestly wouldn't pay anything for Dykes.
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 16, 2022 18:13:29 GMT
Pains me to say it but I think Westy is closest😁 Jimmy, if you can get your figures you’re in the wrong job mate - move over Sky Andrew.
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 16, 2022 18:25:43 GMT
Pains me to say it but I think Westy is closest😁 Jimmy, if you can get your figures you’re in the wrong job mate - move over Sky Andrew. Yet interestingly Westy quoted £2-4m higher for Willock thank Jimmy... |
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 16, 2022 18:28:43 GMT
Pains me to say it but I think Westy is closest😁 Jimmy, if you can get your figures you’re in the wrong job mate - move over Sky Andrew. Yet interestingly Westy quoted £2-4m higher for Willock thank Jimmy... Should have said overall, meant closest as a post. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 16, 2022 18:36:21 GMT
I never realised we did so ‘well’ out of Sterling’s moves.
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 16, 2022 18:38:01 GMT
Yet interestingly Westy quoted £2-4m higher for Willock thank Jimmy... Should have said overall, meant closest as a post. It's so difficult putting valuations on players. If a club is reluctant to sell they'll put a higher price on a player. If a player is in demand then ideally you want a bidding war, which will then over-inflate their price. But ultimately any player's value comes down to how high the buyer is willing to go. |
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Post by The General on Feb 16, 2022 18:50:15 GMT
Dykes - 3 million Chair - 4 million Willock - 7 million Dieng - 4 million Barbet - 1 million Dunne - 2 million Dickie - 4 million interested why you rate Dickie above Dunne Gens? I dont Westy just other people do |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Feb 16, 2022 18:55:13 GMT
The big change since covid on valuations as Lee Hoos was explaining is the mid market for a 2/3m Championship player has completely evaporated. You saw that in the Jan transfer window that no Championship club was prepared to pay a fee even for proven goalscorer/ assist makers like the Derby and Swansea players we were interested in. Bournemouth and Fulham aside, no one else seems to have any money.
On that basis I would say Willock has potential to be a 15m player and Dieng (assuming he gets back in the team and does really well) could go for a sizeable amount (tho might be looking at another season to realise that). Of the others I'd say Dunne has some potential to be a Premier League player but is still making a lot of errors and is well off that at the moment. Chair is the big enigma here: a very good player who should be worth a lot of money, but he is tiny and not very powerful, so can't see a Premier League side going for him. Perhaps a continental side might, in which case he could go still for a fairly decent amount. Dickie's valuation must be plummeting - not to say it can't recover but he is a shadow of the player exciting Premier League interest (which might explain why he looks in a sulk all the time?).
So assuming we don't go up in the summer I think Willock is by far the most likely to be sold to balance the books.
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Post by 1973ranger on Feb 16, 2022 19:30:15 GMT
Of that list Jimmy I would look at punting Dickie, Chair and Dieng especially at them prices. What kind of £ would you put them at realistically out of interest? I agree if there was any I’d cash in on would be the same although I’d be more inclined to want to keep Chair if possible. 7 million forChair and 4 or 5 for Dieng with 3 million for Dickie. We must keep Willock for at least 1 more season. |
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Post by sparks on Feb 16, 2022 20:46:20 GMT
No chance of getting transfer fees on Amos, Dozzell or Georginho ?
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Post by acricketer on Feb 16, 2022 21:10:00 GMT
Bonne 2m?
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Post by Tarbie on Feb 16, 2022 21:19:10 GMT
Was chatting to an Ipswich fan today who said he couldn't stop scoring at the start of the season but since the goals have dried up, Bonne has been utter shit. Doubt very much he's fetching much in the summer either! |
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Post by Bill on Feb 16, 2022 21:20:18 GMT
Think Willock will go to Newcastle to join his brother there 12 mill minimum
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Post by Tarbie on Feb 16, 2022 21:31:27 GMT
Think Willock will go to Newcastle to join his brother there 12 mill minimum Call it 25m for them! |
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Post by Hitman34 on Feb 16, 2022 21:34:06 GMT
Willock worth £12mil
Dickie worth £5mil
Dunne. Worth £3.5mil
Chair, worth £8mil
Amos, worth £3mil
Deing worth. £6mil
Dykes worth fark all
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Post by Bill on Feb 16, 2022 21:55:03 GMT
Think Willock will go to Newcastle to join his brother there 12 mill minimum Call it 25m for them! Would be good |
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Post by West Acton on Feb 17, 2022 7:41:45 GMT
Was chatting to an Ipswich fan today who said he couldn't stop scoring at the start of the season but since the goals have dried up, Bonne has been utter shit. Doubt very much he's fetching much in the summer either! said that on other thread Think in few months if we can shift Dykes need to totally revamp forward line up |
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Post by Corbray on Feb 17, 2022 9:55:39 GMT
dykes - 3m or so, i could see someone paying more for him though but he's not been very good. doesn't lead the line well at all and despite his size he is bullied off the ball more than the 6 inch tall ilias chair. plus why does he drift out wide so much?!
chair - 6-8m in todays market. he's been good for most of the season but still has a bit to work on like releasing the ball earlier. even so though he pops up with a goal on a pretty regular basis and is one of the best AM's in the league imo.
willock - 10-12m at least. always a solid 7/10 if not more and walks passed players with ease.
dieng - 5-6m. good goalkeepers always bring in decent fees and given how quickly he's broken into our side out of complete obscurity i could see us getting a good fee for him.
dickie - 4-5m. we paid 2.7m for him and oxford have a sell on clause too, no way would we lose money on him nor should we either. he's a modern CB and when on form is really good.
dunne - 4-5m again. stepped up massively and is our best CB.
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Post by Greg1882 on Feb 17, 2022 11:38:40 GMT
We tend to get raped over fees, clubs if we don’t go up will pillage us for a lot less We kind of had no choice previously. We’re on a much sounder footing now. Players will go for our valuation |
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