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Post by spongeparr on Feb 20, 2022 7:29:07 GMT
Laboured first half, dominated the second. Hull were so defensive it was always going to be hard.
Actually quite liked Willock at wing back as he runs on to things. If he made a better couple of balls in the first half then we would have scored.
Chair needs to stop getting thr ball 1 yard from a player. Means there's no one to pass forward to.
I have said before, that we are better when Chair and Willock aren't both playing. We are so much better with Chair/Willock behind the 2 up top.
We keep slating strikers, but there's no service. There's no service as there's no midfield options.
Gray should play along side Charlie and you'll see them both play better. Gray can hold onto the ball and has pace. Austin will peel away and make space.
Overall though, such a shame we played the first half with no confidence. At least we scored a goal and the offside on another day stands.
Somehow still 4th and one game closer to ending our winless run!
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Post by spongeparr on Feb 20, 2022 7:37:26 GMT
Just reading the comments after posting. Really surprised at how many aren't liking Field.
He was one of the only players sticking a foot in and getting tough tight.
He doesn't offer much going forward but he keeps the ball, breaks up play and gives us more stability.
Ball, Johansenn etc don't do that. They run around like nutters leaving space in behind which gives us zero protection. I remember Millwall in August with Ball and Johansen pairing, Millwall ran at the heart of our defence many times and we had no protection.
Field is a DM by trade and you need that, even if you have 3 cb on.
There's a different argument as to if we needed 3 cb on when Hull clearly didn't want to leave their half. But you still need someone holding.
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Post by West Acton on Feb 20, 2022 8:01:35 GMT
Good second half. Unlucky not to win. Barbet's crosses and corners were useless. How were we unlucky Timmy? What did we create where bad luck cost us? what about a goal 🤣😂
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Post by West Acton on Feb 20, 2022 8:24:54 GMT
For me what is clear as day is when we play at a higher tempo and a bit of forward intent (2nd half) we look a decent side and a match for most sides. When we Fanny about moving ball slow we look distinctly average and an easy side to play against.
I personally don’t mind the sideways passing as there is a plan behind it if it’s done effectively but you have to do it at pace as the intention is to move opposition about and out of position so you open up a gap to play forward or until the forward gets fed up closing and you bring ball forward therefore creating gap when next player comes to close. I’m cool with it And I get it but we do it way to slow and way to deep. All our passes go via a middle man when sometimes got go one side of the pitch to the other missing out Dunne. We’re to slow and conservative doing it in recent games and it shows in results and performances. Second half we moved it quick and CBs done it on the half way line and you see the difference
He scored but slowly going off chair. He needs four touches before he lifts his head up or decides what to do before he’s slows it all down and goes backwards.
Not an awful performance same time lots to question including managers starting tactics. They had one shot and it goes in off crossbar we score perfectly good goal and it’s ruled out as Albert is actually blocking player playing him on but that’s pisd poor from lino. Thought ref was bang average too
Austin is finished at this level. Will nick a goal here and there and those that love him will be class is perm but it’s all BS. Love him for his first stint with us but now he offers nothing, seems his sole intention is winding up oppo fans or niggling players on pitch. It’s actually sad to watch the decline. Like Dykes simply has to offer more on the pitch if he’s not scoring. Each week if one of them starts we’re effectively starting with 10men
Finally on luck they should have been down to ten men end of first half. Since when has violent conduct and kicking out deliberately been a yellow card?
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 20, 2022 8:26:08 GMT
How were we unlucky Timmy? What did we create where bad luck cost us? what about a goal 🤣😂 Err….I posted before we’d seen the photo of the offside which even you thought was offside at the time. That aside there was nothing unlucky about our performance. Fans were unlucky that MW thought it was a good idea to play Willock at LWB for an hour.
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Post by West Acton on Feb 20, 2022 8:28:28 GMT
Err….I posted before we’d seen the photo of the offside which even you thought was offside at the time. That aside there was nothing unlucky about our performance. Fans were unlucky that MW thought it was a good idea to play Willock at LWB for an hour. I did too but I was wrong But your question was what was unlucky and the goal not given was. Seeing photo or not is irrelevant, decision was wrong and unlucky Ok what about Red card 🤣😂
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Post by West Acton on Feb 20, 2022 8:34:22 GMT
Thought Albert bottled header far post when keeper got injured
Plus on Austin see he’s moaning about fans on Twitter or he’s biting back at some comments. His wife posted separately her and kids were abused by some of our morons (don’t think Alsnwycombe was involved 😁)
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 20, 2022 8:44:23 GMT
Moron. Nice.
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 20, 2022 8:45:44 GMT
Err….I posted before we’d seen the photo of the offside which even you thought was offside at the time. That aside there was nothing unlucky about our performance. Fans were unlucky that MW thought it was a good idea to play Willock at LWB for an hour. I did too but I was wrong But your question was what was unlucky and the goal not given was. Seeing photo or not is irrelevant, decision was wrong and unlucky Ok what about Red card 🤣😂 I’ve walked away from many games feeling hard done to and unlucky but if we’d played another 90 yesterday we still wouldn’t have worked out how to beat them so that’s not unlucky for me.
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Post by Shania on Feb 20, 2022 8:48:00 GMT
Just reading the comments after posting. Really surprised at how many aren't liking Field. He was one of the only players sticking a foot in and getting tough tight. He doesn't offer much going forward but he keeps the ball, breaks up play and gives us more stability. Ball, Johansenn etc don't do that. They run around like nutters leaving space in behind which gives us zero protection. I remember Millwall in August with Ball and Johansen pairing, Millwall ran at the heart of our defence many times and we had no protection. Field is a DM by trade and you need that, even if you have 3 cb on. There's a different argument as to if we needed 3 cb on when Hull clearly didn't want to leave their half. But you still need someone holding. It is very true that Field is an ok player. Frankly, it`s more about whose playing in front of him. Ball and Stefan J have never functioned, and on the subject of creativity, we played so much better when Chair and Willock interchanged vertically and hence drifted from side to side creating space for themselves and others.
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Post by sparks on Feb 20, 2022 9:04:29 GMT
When MW was asked why he played Willock at LWB he said “I needed to somehow fit all our most creative players in the team “ Take a look at how many tackles and interceptions Sam Field made yesterday and convince me it was necessary to play him. www.whoscored.com/Players/317243/MatchStatistics/Sam-Field
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Post by West Acton on Feb 20, 2022 9:20:23 GMT
I did too but I was wrong But your question was what was unlucky and the goal not given was. Seeing photo or not is irrelevant, decision was wrong and unlucky Ok what about Red card 🤣😂 I’ve walked away from many games feeling hard done to and unlucky but if we’d played another 90 yesterday we still wouldn’t have worked out how to beat them so that’s not unlucky for me. I know I tease you oN Occasions but I’m genuinely intrigued by that response and I’m genuine in asking this question. But if a yellow given for a red and a perfectly good goal ruled out is not unlucky what do you class as unlucky as those two decisions are entirely out of our hands to influence is that not bad luck? On if we played another 90 we would not find a way to beat them I would argue your totally wrong as we did find a way to beat them in the 96th minute Albert scored a perfectly good goal and it was only the officials failing to do their job which cost us a win. I thought we were dominant second half and especially last 25mins and had that game had another 10mins let alone 90 we would have scored again imo If you were arguing we could have played better then I would not argue with you and would agree 100% but I honestly can’t see your argument we were not unlucky and would not have found a way
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Post by West Acton on Feb 20, 2022 9:22:54 GMT
When MW was asked why he played Willock at LWB he said “I needed to somehow fit all our most creative players in the team “ Take a look at how many tackles and interceptions Sam Field made yesterday and convince me it was necessary to play him. www.whoscored.com/Players/317243/MatchStatistics/Sam-Field there is massive mixed reviews on Twitter about him. I dont think he’s a bad player but equally not as super as some made out recently. Probably 7/10 player week in week out Thought he was worse millwall and Middlesbrough then Yesterday
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Post by sparks on Feb 20, 2022 9:36:49 GMT
When MW was asked why he played Willock at LWB he said “I needed to somehow fit all our most creative players in the team “ Take a look at how many tackles and interceptions Sam Field made yesterday and convince me it was necessary to play him. www.whoscored.com/Players/317243/MatchStatistics/Sam-Field there is massive mixed reviews on Twitter about him. I dont think he’s a bad player but equally not as super as some made out recently. Probably 7/10 player week in week out Thought he was worse millwall and Middlesbrough then Yesterday I’m not saying he’s a bad player,he rarely gives the ball away like Dom but I question why he was afforded so much game time yesterday.
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 20, 2022 10:32:04 GMT
The problem with Ball is he kept conceding possession. Field has has faults but that's definitely not one of them. Yep. Defensively. But Field brings nothing to the table offensively. Nothing. And that pairing with Jeff was the prime reason we were so, so bad today. I'd go with Field and Johansen. But think Dom deserves a go. As does Thomas. Offensively, Ball brings no more to the team than Field. Agree with you on the Jeff pairing. Johansen was rested presumably due to his stomach bug, so I would have put Dozzell in as personally rate him higher than Ball and Thomas.
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 20, 2022 10:38:10 GMT
Just reading the comments after posting. Really surprised at how many aren't liking Field. He was one of the only players sticking a foot in and getting tough tight. He doesn't offer much going forward but he keeps the ball, breaks up play and gives us more stability. Ball, Johansenn etc don't do that. They run around like nutters leaving space in behind which gives us zero protection. I remember Millwall in August with Ball and Johansen pairing, Millwall ran at the heart of our defence many times and we had no protection. Field is a DM by trade and you need that, even if you have 3 cb on. There's a different argument as to if we needed 3 cb on when Hull clearly didn't want to leave their half. But you still need someone holding. Agree with every word of that.
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Post by Timmy Doc on Feb 20, 2022 10:38:41 GMT
Anyone heard what was wrong with Amos yesterday?
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 20, 2022 11:17:27 GMT
Anyone heard what was wrong with Amos yesterday? Thought that was just a tactical sub?
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Post by Timmy Doc on Feb 20, 2022 11:38:54 GMT
Anyone heard what was wrong with Amos yesterday? Thought that was just a tactical sub? Yes, but why was he so poor? Was expecting he starting because thought he would give something extra for our attacking play but he didn't. Very weak performance.
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Post by Rangers77 on Feb 20, 2022 12:06:20 GMT
Looked seriously upset when subbed. Clearly angry with himself at his performance.
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Post by Timmy Doc on Feb 20, 2022 12:08:04 GMT
Maybe lack of game time?
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 20, 2022 12:17:10 GMT
Probably. Needs a decent run of games.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Feb 20, 2022 12:21:31 GMT
Think it’s more that as fans of a team on a losing streak whoever is not in the team is built up as the solution. But two good-ish performances aside fairly recently there is a good reason why Amos is well behind Willock and Chair in the pecking order. I hoped he would grab his chance and really run at the opposition - which is what we have been missing so badly - but he was almost entirely anonymous. I think our current malaise is less about swapping this player for that one and more about galvanising whatever 10 outfield players are selected to move the ball a) quickly and b) forward. We showed second half we can do that but it’s been a mystery all season - not just on our losing run - why we don’t get going the first half. Reading aside, how many times have we kicked off a match with real intent and charged forward, looking to dominate teams (most of whom are much lower in the table than us)? Am a Warbs fan but why is he still not able to motivate or organise or coach the team to do that? Wish someone would press him on this in a post match interview as (to me at least) it is so clearly the main issue.
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Post by sparks on Feb 21, 2022 7:56:48 GMT
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