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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2024 17:56:36 GMT
I’ve been coming since ‘63, Bill since ‘62 and a mate who sits next to me dates back to the 50s - can you explain what a QPR purist is please? Is it from when Jim Gregory used to have his petty cash tin handy? Hardly the way things should have been done even in those days. Did the great team of the 70s not cost money? All relative of course, but same principle. Did we not buy success then? Isn’t that how it works? Rodney Marsh cost £6k... every significant transfer from that moment until the rich boys arrived was funded by prize money and/or the proceeds from selling players... Defend the rich boys if you want, but don't talk bollocks about the past 👍 |
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Post by West Acton on Jan 9, 2024 17:58:38 GMT
Assuming your’re still boycotting games Your boutique dream died mate and I returned... 👍 my what?? What an odd response. |
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Post by Norfolk Ranger on Jan 9, 2024 17:59:45 GMT
Apparently, according to KingAustin(is he springbok)? On Watrb club is going to be hit with a 10 point deduction very soon. Can't see it myself,but then again you never know with those clowns that run the club. No wonder we aren't signing any players if this true. tbh Shania,KingAustin likes the attention,so not sure how credible his information is. |
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Post by West Acton on Jan 9, 2024 18:00:35 GMT
How can we be hit with a points deduction. Don’t recall club or EFL advising we have breached any rules or under investigation for any irregularities.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2024 18:01:43 GMT
Your boutique dream died mate and I returned... 👍 my what?? What an odd response. Not really... the rich boys didn't want people like you or I going to matches and set out to make QPR a boutique club... I saw through them, you didn't. Your dream died 👍 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2024 18:05:41 GMT
The source of the '10 points' rumour...
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 9, 2024 18:08:16 GMT
I’ve been coming since ‘63, Bill since ‘62 and a mate who sits next to me dates back to the 50s - can you explain what a QPR purist is please? Is it from when Jim Gregory used to have his petty cash tin handy? Hardly the way things should have been done even in those days. Did the great team of the 70s not cost money? All relative of course, but same principle. Did we not buy success then? Isn’t that how it works? Rodney Marsh cost £6k... every significant transfer from that moment until the rich boys arrived was funded by prize money and/or the proceeds from selling players... Defend the rich boys if you want, but don't talk bollocks about the past 👍 Wasn’t talking bollocks, was asking questions? The only bollocks being talked is by you laughably considering yourself some sort of purist😂 |
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Post by West Acton on Jan 9, 2024 18:09:03 GMT
my what?? What an odd response. Not really... the rich boys didn't want people like you or I going to matches and set out to make QPR a boutique club... I saw through them, you didn't. Your dream died 👍 mystic meg think you need have yourself a lie down as your posts are starting to make you look like a bit of a mug. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2024 18:09:56 GMT
Rodney Marsh cost £6k... every significant transfer from that moment until the rich boys arrived was funded by prize money and/or the proceeds from selling players... Defend the rich boys if you want, but don't talk bollocks about the past 👍 Wasn’t talking bollocks, was asking questions? The only bollocks being talked is by you laughably considering yourself some sort of purist😂 What opinion have I expressed which contradicts the notion of being a purist? |
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Post by conorqpr on Jan 9, 2024 18:11:30 GMT
If there was any chance of the club having broken any FFP rules, the club would most likely be referred to an independent commission and the club would already being under a soft embargo by now.
The Club's finances are always monitored by the EFL as the club has to submit its future financial information to the league for them to audit every year, so if we did break any rules we would soon know about it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2024 18:14:38 GMT
Not really... the rich boys didn't want people like you or I going to matches and set out to make QPR a boutique club... I saw through them, you didn't. Your dream died 👍 mystic meg think you need have yourself a lie down as your posts are starting to make you look like a bit of a mug. If you say so 😘 |
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 9, 2024 18:15:44 GMT
Wasn’t talking bollocks, was asking questions? The only bollocks being talked is by you laughably considering yourself some sort of purist😂 What opinion have I expressed which contradicts the notion of being a purist? You still haven’t explained what that is. You clearly don’t like us so why do you bother? BTW, where are Corinthian Casuals these days? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2024 18:25:34 GMT
What opinion have I expressed which contradicts the notion of being a purist? You still haven’t explained what that is. You clearly don’t like us so why do you bother? BTW, where are Corinthian Casuals these days? Keep up Alan.... Throughout this thread and on others I have said that I think we bought 'success' in 2010/11 and that is at odds with the QPR way.... Now, if you didn't care how we acquired that 'success' I'm honestly happy for you and hope you have some great memories from those days to make you smile to the day you leave us, but QPR had a proud tradition of being the complete opposite to a chequebook club and although our trophy cabinet is emptier than Jordan's brain I quite like that if it meant we've done things the right way 👍 |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jan 9, 2024 18:35:18 GMT
You still haven’t explained what that is. You clearly don’t like us so why do you bother? BTW, where are Corinthian Casuals these days? Keep up Alan.... Throughout this thread and on others I have said that I think we bought 'success' in 2010/11 and that is at odds with the QPR way.... Now, if you didn't care how we acquired that 'success' I'm honestly happy for you and hope you have some great memories from those days to make you smile to the day you leave us, but QPR had a proud tradition of being the complete opposite to a chequebook club and although our trophy cabinet is emptier than Jordan's brain I quite like that if it meant we've done things the right way 👍 Not sure why you are dredging all this up to have an argument with fellow fans? We are all pissed off at the moment but we are all loyal fans or we wouldn't be bothered coming on sites like this and going to games. For the record, the serious money men coming in were Ecclestone and Briatore - dreadful as human beings almost certainly, but they facilitated one of the best seasons I have had as a QPR fan with the Adel promotion season (up there almost with the Venners era for me). Easy to romanticise the days of buckets going round the ground but I didn't especially like the sound of guns in the board room or the site of Marcus Bean failing to make a five yard pass. We all know its gone to shit and Tony and his cronies have been utterly disastrous but the game has moved on and you need rich owners to progress as a club. Alas we just got the wrong rich owners. Without rich owners we would be out of business, however incompetent we probably all agree they are. |
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Post by conorqpr on Jan 9, 2024 18:42:53 GMT
Also this kingaustin chap is also the same person who claimed we were signing Danny Ings, I personally think its utter BS whats hes speculating tbh
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 9, 2024 18:43:34 GMT
You still haven’t explained what that is. You clearly don’t like us so why do you bother? BTW, where are Corinthian Casuals these days? Keep up Alan.... Throughout this thread and on others I have said that I think we bought 'success' in 2010/11 and that is at odds with the QPR way.... Now, if you didn't care how we acquired that 'success' I'm honestly happy for you and hope you have some great memories from those days to make you smile to the day you leave us, but QPR had a proud tradition of being the complete opposite to a chequebook club and although our trophy cabinet is emptier than Jordan's brain I quite like that if it meant we've done things the right way 👍 If you employ a decent football man as manager and that manager brings in some honest pros who he then gets to play above expectations and improves what we already had that’s not the same as Jack Walker buying success for Blackburn. That same manager also got the best out of a hugely talented nutcase and no one had done that before, or since, with him. If you are telling the truth about boycotting those games you’re no Rangers’ fan, you’re a fool. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 9, 2024 18:44:24 GMT
With all of 370 followers. Hmm... The source of the '10 points' rumour... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2024 18:45:30 GMT
Keep up Alan.... Throughout this thread and on others I have said that I think we bought 'success' in 2010/11 and that is at odds with the QPR way.... Now, if you didn't care how we acquired that 'success' I'm honestly happy for you and hope you have some great memories from those days to make you smile to the day you leave us, but QPR had a proud tradition of being the complete opposite to a chequebook club and although our trophy cabinet is emptier than Jordan's brain I quite like that if it meant we've done things the right way 👍 Not sure why you are dredging all this up to have an argument with fellow fans? We are all pissed off at the moment but we are all loyal fans or we wouldn't be bothered coming on sites like this and going to games. For the record, the serious money men coming in were Ecclestone and Briatore - dreadful as human beings almost certainly, but they facilitated one of the best seasons I have had as a QPR fan with the Adel promotion season (up there almost with the Venners era for me). Easy to romanticise the days of buckets going round the ground but I didn't especially like the sound of guns in the board room or the site of Marcus Bean failing to make a five yard pass. We all know its gone to shit and Tony and his cronies have been utterly disastrous but the game has moved on and you need rich owners to progress as a club. Alas we just got the wrong rich owners. Without rich owners we would be out of business, however incompetent we probably all agree they are. As I said to Alan, if that was one of best seasons you had following us then I hope you have plenty of great memories to keep you smiling until your last day. I'm honestly happy if that is the case. I'm not sure how this has broken out today - I'd have to re-read the entire series of posts to familiarise myself - but I'm not trying to dredge anything up. In my opinion although we have gone off piste on some occasions, there has been, for the most part, a natural flow. As for the need of rich boys, You're right but that doesn't take into account that given a choice to decide our future, I would always opt for us to be relegated to the National League with a good Chairman on par with Gregory or Thompson who are the greatest in the club's history than any one who sees chequebook 'success' as a means to an end... You're entitled to think I'm wrong, I won't be offended 👍 |
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Post by West Acton on Jan 9, 2024 18:47:20 GMT
mystic meg think you need have yourself a lie down as your posts are starting to make you look like a bit of a mug. If you say so 😘 I absolutely do plus I think you were at the front of the boutique queue nicking drinks off TF in the pubs trying be his bag carrier but it got you nowhere and your bitter about it. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 9, 2024 18:50:03 GMT
Keep up Alan.... Throughout this thread and on others I have said that I think we bought 'success' in 2010/11 and that is at odds with the QPR way.... Now, if you didn't care how we acquired that 'success' I'm honestly happy for you and hope you have some great memories from those days to make you smile to the day you leave us, but QPR had a proud tradition of being the complete opposite to a chequebook club and although our trophy cabinet is emptier than Jordan's brain I quite like that if it meant we've done things the right way 👍 Not sure why you are dredging all this up to have an argument with fellow fans? We are all pissed off at the moment but we are all loyal fans or we wouldn't be bothered coming on sites like this and going to games. For the record, the serious money men coming in were Ecclestone and Briatore - dreadful as human beings almost certainly, but they facilitated one of the best seasons I have had as a QPR fan with the Adel promotion season (up there almost with the Venners era for me). Easy to romanticise the days of buckets going round the ground but I didn't especially like the sound of guns in the board room or the site of Marcus Bean failing to make a five yard pass. We all know its gone to shit and Tony and his cronies have been utterly disastrous but the game has moved on and you need rich owners to progress as a club. Alas we just got the wrong rich owners. Without rich owners we would be out of business, however incompetent we probably all agree they are. As a QPR purist, I think that's what OldR is saying he would have preferred? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2024 18:51:35 GMT
I absolutely do plus I think you were at the front of the boutique queue nicking drinks off TF in the pubs trying be his bag carrier but it got you nowhere and your bitter about it. Ha ha, I did call him a cunt once at the Queen Adelaide but definitely didn't try to carry his bags 👍 On a more serious note, this article by Steve Russel should make people think about what was actually achieved in those days. Russel wasn't the only long term fan priced out as some celebrated our 'success'... www.indyrs.co.uk/2013/12/in-memory-of-russell-moore/ |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2024 18:52:32 GMT
Not sure why you are dredging all this up to have an argument with fellow fans? We are all pissed off at the moment but we are all loyal fans or we wouldn't be bothered coming on sites like this and going to games. For the record, the serious money men coming in were Ecclestone and Briatore - dreadful as human beings almost certainly, but they facilitated one of the best seasons I have had as a QPR fan with the Adel promotion season (up there almost with the Venners era for me). Easy to romanticise the days of buckets going round the ground but I didn't especially like the sound of guns in the board room or the site of Marcus Bean failing to make a five yard pass. We all know its gone to shit and Tony and his cronies have been utterly disastrous but the game has moved on and you need rich owners to progress as a club. Alas we just got the wrong rich owners. Without rich owners we would be out of business, however incompetent we probably all agree they are. As a QPR purist, I think that's what OldR is saying he would have preferred? Not quite but I'd rather have us playing in the Combined Counties League with our soul in tact than in the Premier League without... |
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Post by Bill on Jan 9, 2024 18:52:53 GMT
I’ve been coming since ‘63, Bill since ‘62 and a mate who sits next to me dates back to the 50s - can you explain what a QPR purist is please? Is it from when Jim Gregory used to have his petty cash tin handy? Hardly the way things should have been done even in those days. Did the great team of the 70s not cost money? All relative of course, but same principle. Did we not buy success then? Isn’t that how it works? Rodney Marsh cost £6k... every significant transfer from that moment until the rich boys arrived was funded by prize money and/or the proceeds from selling players... Defend the rich boys if you want, but don't talk bollocks about the past 👍 He actually cost £21000 from Fulham. Times change and without Rodders 44 goals 66/67 its debatable whether we would have had the success we had back then. 10/11 we had Warnock a good manager but more than that he knew how to get the best out of Adel and in Clint and Sean he had two warriors to run the show. In a nutshell he knew how to build a team and get the best out of that team. Frankly your talking bollocks. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2024 18:55:30 GMT
Rodney Marsh cost £6k... every significant transfer from that moment until the rich boys arrived was funded by prize money and/or the proceeds from selling players... Defend the rich boys if you want, but don't talk bollocks about the past 👍 He actually cost £21000 from Fulham. Times change and without Rodders 44 goals 66/67 its debatable whether we would have had the success we had back then. 10/11 we had Warnock a good manager but more than that he knew how to get the best out of Adel and in Clint and Sean he had two warriors to run the show. In a nutshell he knew how to build a team and get the best out of that team. Frankly your talking bollocks. My mistake on the Marsh fee but it wasn't a huge amount regardless. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 9, 2024 18:59:40 GMT
You mean to tell me we went unbeaten for 19 games, had 25 clean sheets in total, came top of the league and lifted a trophy for the first time in years and you didn't enjoy any of it? Pull the other one mate 🤣 load of bollocks. We bought it mate. There was absolutely no authenticity in it at all. It was hollow 'success' and if you enjoyed it great but it was so far removed from being 'achieved' in the manner in which I believe QPR should be that I found the whole experience gaudy and embarrassing. On a slight tangent, please never forget that whilst you were celebrating there were a number of good QPR fans who had been priced out of Loftus Road by the new owners who were wealthy enough to fund 'success' but not the keep ticket costs down so all historical fans could attend.... At least I had a choice whether to attend the boutique club games or not... Weren't the ticket price rises only in line with inflation, as well as in line with all other clubs having to increase prices? Genuine question. |
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Post by Bill on Jan 9, 2024 19:02:27 GMT
It was for little old Qpr back then and eventually put us on the football map.
Please dont come on here taking what little joy we have had over the years by saying we cheated,if we did why did they not deduct us points.
They didnt and fact is that team was put together expertly by Mr Warnock for little money back then.
The rest is history and i for one dont need you spouting this bollocks.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2024 19:05:03 GMT
We bought it mate. There was absolutely no authenticity in it at all. It was hollow 'success' and if you enjoyed it great but it was so far removed from being 'achieved' in the manner in which I believe QPR should be that I found the whole experience gaudy and embarrassing. On a slight tangent, please never forget that whilst you were celebrating there were a number of good QPR fans who had been priced out of Loftus Road by the new owners who were wealthy enough to fund 'success' but not the keep ticket costs down so all historical fans could attend.... At least I had a choice whether to attend the boutique club games or not... Weren't the ticket price rises only in line with inflation, as well as in line with all other clubs having to increase prices? Genuine question. No, I'll have to dig around for the minutes but ticket prices were raised as a significant concern by all fan reps at the meeting with the club after they were announced. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2024 19:07:23 GMT
It was for little old Qpr back then and eventually put us on the football map. Please dont come on here taking what little joy we have had over the years by saying we cheated,if we did why did they not deduct us points. They didnt and fact is that team was put together expertly by Mr Warnock for little money back then. The rest is history and i for one dont need you spouting this bollocks. We spent substantially more than we earned to buy the title... that's unsporting and cheating in my opinion regardless of how soon it was before FFP laws were codified... |
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Post by West Acton on Jan 9, 2024 19:07:39 GMT
I absolutely do plus I think you were at the front of the boutique queue nicking drinks off TF in the pubs trying be his bag carrier but it got you nowhere and your bitter about it. Ha ha, I did call him a cunt once at the Queen Adelaide but definitely didn't try to carry his bags 👍 On a more serious note, this article by Steve Russel should make people think about what was actually achieved in those days. Russel wasn't the only long term fan priced out as some celebrated our 'success'... www.indyrs.co.uk/2013/12/in-memory-of-russell-moore/ i am being serious |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jan 9, 2024 19:07:55 GMT
As a QPR purist, I think that's what OldR is saying he would have preferred? Not quite but I'd rather have us playing in the Combined Counties League with our soul in tact than in the Premier League without... Well at the risk of stating the bleeding obvious that's your right to think that. Not sure how "pure" any level of football is if you dig into it tho. You romanticise the Gregory era but I imagine (before my time so would need confirmation from others) Chairman Jim was probably seen as a bit of a billy big bollocks coming in and trying to turn us from a third tier club into a first division one. We spent some pretty big fees for the time under Chairman Jim (think of the spending spree he sanctioned for Terry). But even if that weren't the case football has moved on - very hard to imagine a local businessman who owned a chain of launderettes (?) could now come in and buy a football club. I think all of us now feel a bit dirty about how Tony threw money around on parasitic footballers who didn't care (and even dirtier because we cheered him on while he did it), but surely there is a happy balance - ie a very rich, very competent owner who builds the club up gradually. |
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