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Post by The General on Jan 12, 2024 21:28:04 GMT
This is football I’m afraid of today
I agree with principles but your in the wrong sport
If your looking for what your saying
It doesn’t exist old r
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Post by The General on Jan 12, 2024 21:30:26 GMT
Only clubs that run like that really are
Norwich
Brentford
Arsenal
These clubs are fairly unique and very well run
The other 90% are not but I do agree with you
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2024 21:35:31 GMT
This is football I’m afraid of today I agree with principles but your in the wrong sport If your looking for what your saying It doesn’t exist old r I mainly go to Loftus Road to reminiscent about different days because its easier to do so there then it is in the mind's eye and to be socialable. When we move I'm checking out. I don't watch any other 'mainstream' football (I didn't watch a single game from the World Cup for example) and when not at Loftus Road I watch non league football where my idea of how the game should operate is still available. I know I'm living in the past but that's where my DVD collection of around 2000 matches from before 2000 helps 👍
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Post by The General on Jan 12, 2024 21:35:59 GMT
Unfortunatly I’m now becoming very tired of
The club after nearly 50 years
All the appalling decisions and appointments
Have caused me much frustration and mental health
However having now found Desperados and You Porn
It does not affect me as it did luckily
One of the reasons I was hired once was because I was Qpr
He said jesus you must be a loyal / passionate person that can
Take a huge amount of shit exactly what I need in my company 🤣
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Post by The General on Jan 12, 2024 21:37:11 GMT
This is football I’m afraid of today I agree with principles but your in the wrong sport If your looking for what your saying It doesn’t exist old r I mainly go to Loftus Road to reminiscent about different days because its easier to do so there then it is in the mind's eye and to be socialable. When we move I'm checking out. I don't watch any other 'mainstream' football (I didn't watch a single game from the World Cup for example) and when not at Loftus Road I watch non league football where my idea of how the game should operate is still available. I know I'm living in the past but that's where my DVD collection of around 2000 matches from before 2000 helps 👍 I agree I actually only go because of nostalgia too
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Post by The General on Jan 12, 2024 21:37:35 GMT
And the Hot Dogs
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2024 21:42:36 GMT
I mainly go to Loftus Road to reminiscent about different days because its easier to do so there then it is in the mind's eye and to be socialable. When we move I'm checking out. I don't watch any other 'mainstream' football (I didn't watch a single game from the World Cup for example) and when not at Loftus Road I watch non league football where my idea of how the game should operate is still available. I know I'm living in the past but that's where my DVD collection of around 2000 matches from before 2000 helps 👍 I agree I actually only go because of nostalgia too I'll spend more time on Sunday thinking of matches against Watford in the 80s than I will about the actual game I'm watching...
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Post by The General on Jan 12, 2024 21:46:17 GMT
I am also a 80s man that lives in the past
Football Factory
Clubbing 3 times a week
Beach parties
Qpr
Snake bite and black
Can remember everything that happened too
So glad I lived in that time 🤣
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 12, 2024 22:28:08 GMT
Most clubs have spent more than they earn Man Utd owe 800 million pounds I’m not saying this is a good thing Just a pretty normal thing in football We are not unique in this situation You live in a world that does not exist anymore Football clubs that balance the books prob 5% I'd rather swim against the tide then condone something I cannot agree with. I find your stance just weird. You are perfectly entitled to feel the way you do but why do you bother at all then? You clearly don’t enjoy following the current club, seem to want it to fail, so why do you waste your money?
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Post by acricketer on Jan 12, 2024 23:36:14 GMT
I think we're fucked. These blokes are just looking for what they can make from a fire sale.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2024 23:37:00 GMT
I'd rather swim against the tide then condone something I cannot agree with. I find your stance just weird. You are perfectly entitled to feel the way you do but why do you bother at all then? You clearly don’t enjoy following the current club, seem to want it to fail, so why do you waste your money? Do I want it to fail? I wouldn't say that I do. I want us to return to the ethos, ethics and morals of the club as I should believe they should be and that's not possible with the current set up or, more than likely, within the framework of modern football. However, I don't accept this entity who call themselves 'Queen's Park Rangers' as such but a tribute act to a club who previously existed but no longer do though the soul still lives on and that may allow the rebirth of the real club. So, yes, I may, on occasions, want these imposters to fail but seeing as I don't accept them as QPR it's not straight forward... Am I wasting money? I get huge satisfaction from the reminiscing when I do attend matches at Loftus Road and if I didn’t I wouldn't go. I will completely check out once Loftus Road is sold.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 13, 2024 9:23:45 GMT
Not the fans’ fault that we’ve signed Duds, Donkeys and a Duff - sorry, DOF. The money wasted has been epic. In some cases, but when you look at the likes of Kieran Dyer and Shaun Wright Philips you didn't have to be a member of Mensa (or this new CEO's data academy) to see this was madness, but on the crowd cheered...Sections of the crowd. Can't lump entire fanbase in that category I'm sure we can agree. We don't know if it was the majority either.
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Post by Rangers77 on Jan 13, 2024 9:27:27 GMT
I hate modern football. I don't watch it and last watched a PL game when we were in it. I don't watch World Cups or the Euros either. I go watch QPR. I don't always understand why. It's sometimes a chore, clearly a habit, and recently rarely been a pleasure. I'd prefer, however, to be in my paid for seat for Watford than be in a corporate box for free at any of the top six wankers.
We are run by fools. I kinda like Marty, wish we'd appointed Neil, and wait to see what's going to transpire with this new CEO. Who's also, clearly, the DOF as well.
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Post by Rangers77 on Jan 13, 2024 9:31:13 GMT
Maybe we all keep turning up for the same reason Zombies, in Zombie films, congregate at Shopping Malls. Because it reminds them of their previous life......
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 13, 2024 9:59:35 GMT
We turn up because we support QPR. I go to my local club, Wycombe Wanderers, occasionally. I don’t give a shit if they win or lose. I do if it’s QPR.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2024 10:17:43 GMT
Another reason why I go is that it's a chance to give the wife and I some time apart as we always say that time we spend apart is as important as time we spend together.
Each to their own but I look at those couples who attend QPR matches together and can't help but think that firstly it's not healthy and secondly, that having exactly the same interests your partner doesn't allow you to grow as a person/couple but that's a discussion for another time.
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Post by Rangers77 on Jan 13, 2024 10:20:39 GMT
We turn up because we support QPR. I go to my local club, Wycombe Wanderers, occasionally. I don’t give a shit if they win or lose. I do if it’s QPR. This. Trouble is I don't always understand why 🤣😂🤷🏻♂️
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 13, 2024 10:52:01 GMT
I find your stance just weird. You are perfectly entitled to feel the way you do but why do you bother at all then? You clearly don’t enjoy following the current club, seem to want it to fail, so why do you waste your money? Do I want it to fail? I wouldn't say that I do. I want us to return to the ethos, ethics and morals of the club as I should believe they should be and that's not possible with the current set up or, more than likely, within the framework of modern football. However, I don't accept this entity who call themselves 'Queen's Park Rangers' as such but a tribute act to a club who previously existed but no longer do though the soul still lives on and that may allow the rebirth of the real club. So, yes, I may, on occasions, want these imposters to fail but seeing as I don't accept them as QPR it's not straight forward... Am I wasting money? I get huge satisfaction from the reminiscing when I do attend matches at Loftus Road and if I didn’t I wouldn't go. I will completely check out once Loftus Road is sold. OldR, perhaps you'd like to represent RFI at the next Supporters Consultation Committee meeting? We're invited to them all. I usually go but when I can't AlanWycombe, Corbray and West Acton have attended. The CEO and other senior staff are always present. You'd get to meet your mates Steve Sayce and Clive Whittingham too, as they're usually there So you'd get a chance to put your views across about how the club should be run according to your principles. These meetings are designed to reflect the views of R's fans across all demographics and generations.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2024 11:29:11 GMT
Do I want it to fail? I wouldn't say that I do. I want us to return to the ethos, ethics and morals of the club as I should believe they should be and that's not possible with the current set up or, more than likely, within the framework of modern football. However, I don't accept this entity who call themselves 'Queen's Park Rangers' as such but a tribute act to a club who previously existed but no longer do though the soul still lives on and that may allow the rebirth of the real club. So, yes, I may, on occasions, want these imposters to fail but seeing as I don't accept them as QPR it's not straight forward... Am I wasting money? I get huge satisfaction from the reminiscing when I do attend matches at Loftus Road and if I didn’t I wouldn't go. I will completely check out once Loftus Road is sold. OldR, perhaps you'd like to represent RFI at the next Supporters Consultation Committee meeting? We're invited to them all. I usually go but when I can't AlanWycombe, Corbray and West Acton have attended. The CEO and other senior staff are always present. You'd get to meet your mates Steve Sayce and Clive Whittingham too, as they're usually there So you'd get a chance to put your views across about how the club should be run according to your principles. These meetings are designed to reflect the views of R's fans across all demographics and generations. Thanks for the invite but to paraphrase Gwenth Paltrow, I'm already a long way down the line of my de-coupling from QPR with an exit plan already in place. I'm happy moaning on here like the dinosaur I am but not daft. My views are in the minority and are unrealistic in the modern era for the most part and that's before you take into account the fact that for my vision of QPR to materialise would take 25 years of patience or dropping down the pyramid system... That doesn't mean that I don't reserve the right to moan like fuck about the death of the real QPR and mock people who wouldn't have saved QPR in 1987 if we had been relying on them....
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Post by West Acton on Jan 13, 2024 11:52:26 GMT
If you truly cared about the club would you not like the opportunity to fight for it with those who wield the power and need influencing.
Whilst you come out with some bonkers opinions there are some valid ones you raise which the club should be challenged on.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2024 12:09:28 GMT
If you truly cared about the club would you not like the opportunity to fight for it with those who wield the power and need influencing. Whilst you come out with some bonkers opinions there are some valid ones you raise which the club should be challenged on. I care about the QPR I loved not this one. If we reformed as AFC QPR you have my word that I'll be more than spectator but there's no point denying that the fight to save the QPR I want was lost when the majority of fans embraced the rich boys. Few out there want a club who will bounce around the lower divisions for 20 years so they can hold the moral high ground. Most want Saudi type owners coming in and financially doping us to what they believe is 'success'. What would the point be in me entertaining the idea of shouting into a hurricane with my dated opinions? No, fair play to people like yourself, Alan, Corbray and, of course, Stanley for finding it within yourselves to stand up for your opinions at these meetings. You're far better people than I am and love the club far more than I do too. I honestly have a lot of respect for you all.
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Post by Bill on Jan 13, 2024 12:16:09 GMT
If you truly cared about the club would you not like the opportunity to fight for it with those who wield the power and need influencing. Whilst you come out with some bonkers opinions there are some valid ones you raise which the club should be challenged on. I care about the QPR I loved not this one. If we reformed as AFC QPR you have my word that I'll be more than spectator but there's no point denying that the fight to save the QPR I want was lost when the majority of fans embraced the rich boys. Few out there want a club who will bounce around the lower divisions for 20 years so they can hold the moral high ground. Most want Saudi type owners coming in and financially doping us to what they believe is 'success'. What would the point be in me entertaining the idea of shouting into a hurricane with my dated opinions? No, fair play to people like yourself, Alan, Corbray and, of course, Stanley for finding it within yourselves to stand up for your opinions at these meetings. You're far better people than I am and love the club far more than I do too. I honestly have a lot of respect for you all. You cant turn the clock back,those times are gone.
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Post by Bill on Jan 13, 2024 12:19:12 GMT
Unfortunatly I’m now becoming very tired of The club after nearly 50 years All the appalling decisions and appointments Have caused me much frustration and mental health However having now found Desperados and You Porn It does not affect me as it did luckily One of the reasons I was hired once was because I was Qpr He said jesus you must be a loyal / passionate person omothat can Take a huge amount of shit exactly what I need in my company 🤣 Football is becoming tired imo but i will always follow the Rangers.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2024 12:25:08 GMT
I care about the QPR I loved not this one. If we reformed as AFC QPR you have my word that I'll be more than spectator but there's no point denying that the fight to save the QPR I want was lost when the majority of fans embraced the rich boys. Few out there want a club who will bounce around the lower divisions for 20 years so they can hold the moral high ground. Most want Saudi type owners coming in and financially doping us to what they believe is 'success'. What would the point be in me entertaining the idea of shouting into a hurricane with my dated opinions? No, fair play to people like yourself, Alan, Corbray and, of course, Stanley for finding it within yourselves to stand up for your opinions at these meetings. You're far better people than I am and love the club far more than I do too. I honestly have a lot of respect for you all. You cant turn the clock back,those times are gone. Exactly.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 13, 2024 12:48:38 GMT
If you truly cared about the club would you not like the opportunity to fight for it with those who wield the power and need influencing. Whilst you come out with some bonkers opinions there are some valid ones you raise which the club should be challenged on. I care about the QPR I loved not this one. If we reformed as AFC QPR you have my word that I'll be more than spectator but there's no point denying that the fight to save the QPR I want was lost when the majority of fans embraced the rich boys. Few out there want a club who will bounce around the lower divisions for 20 years so they can hold the moral high ground. Most want Saudi type owners coming in and financially doping us to what they believe is 'success'. What would the point be in me entertaining the idea of shouting into a hurricane with my dated opinions?No, fair play to people like yourself, Alan, Corbray and, of course, Stanley for finding it within yourselves to stand up for your opinions at these meetings. You're far better people than I am and love the club far more than I do too. I honestly have a lot of respect for you all. I've been attending these meetings for the past 10 years and it's honestly not like that. It can get passionate but it's generally civilised and respectful of a wide range of views, including some like yours.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2024 12:53:45 GMT
I care about the QPR I loved not this one. If we reformed as AFC QPR you have my word that I'll be more than spectator but there's no point denying that the fight to save the QPR I want was lost when the majority of fans embraced the rich boys. Few out there want a club who will bounce around the lower divisions for 20 years so they can hold the moral high ground. Most want Saudi type owners coming in and financially doping us to what they believe is 'success'. What would the point be in me entertaining the idea of shouting into a hurricane with my dated opinions?No, fair play to people like yourself, Alan, Corbray and, of course, Stanley for finding it within yourselves to stand up for your opinions at these meetings. You're far better people than I am and love the club far more than I do too. I honestly have a lot of respect for you all. I've been attending these meetings for the past 10 years and it's honestly not like that. It can get passionate but it's generally civilised and respectful of a wide range of views, including some like yours. It's good to read that I'm not alone in some of my thoughts but I look at the club on and off the pitch and can't help but think that it is a token gesture inviting a 'wide range of opinions' to the table.... That makes me respect all of you I mentioned even more but does cement my view that its a waste of time and not for me.
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Post by acricketer on Jan 13, 2024 15:44:28 GMT
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Post by Bill on Jan 13, 2024 17:30:29 GMT
I care about the QPR I loved not this one. If we reformed as AFC QPR you have my word that I'll be more than spectator but there's no point denying that the fight to save the QPR I want was lost when the majority of fans embraced the rich boys. Few out there want a club who will bounce around the lower divisions for 20 years so they can hold the moral high ground. Most want Saudi type owners coming in and financially doping us to what they believe is 'success'. What would the point be in me entertaining the idea of shouting into a hurricane with my dated opinions?No, fair play to people like yourself, Alan, Corbray and, of course, Stanley for finding it within yourselves to stand up for your opinions at these meetings. You're far better people than I am and love the club far more than I do too. I honestly have a lot of respect for you all. I've been attending these meetings for the past 10 years and it's honestly not like that. It can get passionate but it's generally civilised and respectful of a wide range of views, including some like yours. Maybe it needs more passion and more direct questions with more direct answers. Reuben answer"We want to leave the club in a much better position" Think about that what does he mean. In the same league ? Financially better ? Operationally better in all aspects? Or just playing catchup in every area? Or your own interpretation?
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Post by Corbray on Jan 13, 2024 18:12:02 GMT
I've been attending these meetings for the past 10 years and it's honestly not like that. It can get passionate but it's generally civilised and respectful of a wide range of views, including some like yours. Maybe it needs more passion and more direct questions with more direct answers. Reuben answer"We want to leave the club in a much better position" Think about that what does he mean. In the same league ? Financially better ? Operationally better in all aspects? Or just playing catchup in every area? Or your own interpretation? they'd just use a typical politician answer to avoid an outright answer. on the face of it what have they done to improve the club since taking over? we have a new training ground and a slightly better academy. ground is still in disrepair and dirty looking, our stature is either the same or worse, we're not self sufficent or even close to it and we have no direction as a club. people have been saying for years that we needed to freshen things up. too early to pass judgement on our new CEO, les was kept on for far too long, belk has been subpar, hoos is a middling administrator who specialises in simply keeping things ticking over.
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Post by The General on Jan 13, 2024 18:14:17 GMT
I've been attending these meetings for the past 10 years and it's honestly not like that. It can get passionate but it's generally civilised and respectful of a wide range of views, including some like yours. Maybe it needs more passion and more direct questions with more direct answers. Reuben answer"We want to leave the club in a much better position" Think about that what does he mean. In the same league ? Financially better ? Operationally better in all aspects? Or just playing catchup in every area? Or your own interpretation? Maybe if he ate less that would free up some funds for us
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