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Post by Corbray on Aug 5, 2022 8:47:32 GMT
i'd be happy with 8m or so for chair and think that should be the price for any negotiations. if marcus tavernier can go for 12m then chair has to be around the same price.
i wouldn't be against selling chair as even though i'm a big fan of his we need to generate money and he wouldn't be too hard to replace
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Post by Shania on Aug 5, 2022 9:03:37 GMT
If he goes, I think we should try to bring in Mehmeti as a replacement.
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Post by Corbray on Aug 5, 2022 9:18:35 GMT
If he goes, I think we should try to bring in Mehmeti as a replacement. would be a good shout but even without him we have willock, armstrong and roberts plus richards and even thomas in a pinch to play there. if we sold any of our key players then it should be chair as his loss would be the softest blow and it'd give armstrong more game time thus creating a conveyer belt of talent outgoing and incoming. 8m or so would be great. even if we only spent 6m that'd enable us to bring in a good striker and a good RB. |
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Post by West Acton on Aug 5, 2022 9:27:23 GMT
I would be hoping for minimum on 10mil not because I think he’s worth that but that’s what current market dictates.
I think he’s probably a 6mil player
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Post by spongeparr on Aug 5, 2022 9:27:32 GMT
I would hate us to part ways with Chair, but we need the money to bring in enforcements in midfield and attack. RB seems sorted now. RB is sorted? |
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Post by sparks on Aug 5, 2022 9:27:51 GMT
Even though MB said Roberts could play as striker, his previous goal scoring record suggests otherwise, i would guess he’s been brought in as a natural replacement for either Willock or Chair imo.
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Post by Shania on Aug 5, 2022 9:30:54 GMT
If he goes, I think we should try to bring in Mehmeti as a replacement. would be a good shout but even without him we have willock, armstrong and roberts plus richards and even thomas in a pinch to play there. if we sold any of our key players then it should be chair as his loss would be the softest blow and it'd give armstrong more game time thus creating a conveyer belt of talent outgoing and incoming. 8m or so would be great. even if we only spent 6m that'd enable us to bring in a good striker and a good RB. I kind of stand corrected here; maybe we(I) should trust our own manager and his signings more. Patient is key this season. |
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Post by Shania on Aug 5, 2022 9:36:36 GMT
I would hate us to part ways with Chair, but we need the money to bring in enforcements in midfield and attack. RB seems sorted now. RB is sorted? Nope, I worded it wrongly. Sorry. In the video yesterday, MB highlights the need for getting one in asap. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Aug 5, 2022 9:39:25 GMT
I would be hoping for minimum on 10mil not because I think he’s worth that but that’s what current market dictates. I think he’s probably a 6mil player Would take 10 in a heartbeat. Tavernier for 10 to 12 million then Chair is on that level. Both over priced |
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Post by hubble on Aug 5, 2022 11:05:39 GMT
Would take 8 mill in a heartbeat. I'm not a massive fan of Chair, I think he's ok, decent at this level, that's about it.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Aug 5, 2022 16:27:53 GMT
8-10mil and shake hands. As long as that can be given to Beale to invest in the squad.
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Post by James1979 on Aug 5, 2022 18:51:04 GMT
8-10mil and shake hands. As long as that can be given to Beale to invest in the squad. Agree although I think you need to keep some In bank for ffp. Also, let’s do the sale now and not with hours remaining Until deadline finishes. |
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Aug 8, 2022 16:22:20 GMT
All gone quiet hasn't it?
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Aug 8, 2022 16:44:36 GMT
All gone quiet hasn't it? Am hoping we are close to getting that Chelsea right back, but who knows... I kind of understand why the club aren't moving for a striker - if they don't have the funds for a decent one and can't get a Prem club to move on a loan, there is no point blowing our budget on yet another sub standard striker who is no better than Dykes or Bonne. Not easy... |
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Post by Greg1882 on Aug 8, 2022 17:06:58 GMT
A right back is absolutely critical. Strikers wise we can probably get by with some decent coaching. Armstrongs going to surprise a few. Maybe the club know that. If dykes and bonne really can’t cut it though it needs to be number 1 priority in Jan and moving forward. Other clubs manage to unearth decent forwards on next to no budget so no excuse for us not to either. I just think that looking at the squad as it is if there’s only room for 1 it has to be a right back. Kakay isn’t the answer
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Aug 8, 2022 17:22:34 GMT
A right back is absolutely critical. Strikers wise we can probably get by with some decent coaching. Armstrongs going to surprise a few. Maybe the club know that. If dykes and bonne really can’t cut it though it needs to be number 1 priority in Jan and moving forward. Other clubs manage to unearth decent forwards on next to no budget so no excuse for us not to either. I just think that looking at the squad as it is if there’s only room for 1 it has to be a right back. Kakay isn’t the answer Think you are right Greg, though credit where its due - compared to one or two appearances last term Kakay has raised his game. Noticeable that Boro were targeting the right back position. Given our central defence is vulnerable now we are two and not a three, there is limited support from there too. Normally you would say a striker is more of a priority and that you can make do at right back but if we can actually buy a young up and coming right back who would improve us and have sell on value then - if forced to choose - that would be the shrewder move this window. |
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Post by Bill on Aug 8, 2022 17:25:57 GMT
Just think up front we are short any injuries like last season and we will be in trouble.
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Post by James1979 on Aug 8, 2022 17:26:12 GMT
A right back is absolutely critical. Strikers wise we can probably get by with some decent coaching. Armstrongs going to surprise a few. Maybe the club know that. If dykes and bonne really can’t cut it though it needs to be number 1 priority in Jan and moving forward. Other clubs manage to unearth decent forwards on next to no budget so no excuse for us not to either. I just think that looking at the squad as it is if there’s only room for 1 it has to be a right back. Kakay isn’t the answer Think you are right Greg, though credit where its due - compared to one or two appearances last term Kakay has raised his game. Noticeable that Boro were targeting the right back position. Given our central defence is vulnerable now we are two and not a three, there is limited support from there too. Normally you would say a striker is more of a priority and that you can make do at right back but if we can actually buy a young up and coming right back who would improve us and have sell on value then - if forced to choose - that would be the shrewder move this window. Yeah and I’m no Kakay fan but I wasn’t sure about the AKUTRs saying “Need decent right back” and “Need decent striker” in the “to do list”. Think it’s a bit shitty to be so in their faces about it. Kakay isn’t great but let’s not rub it in eh? |
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Post by sparks on Aug 9, 2022 9:09:42 GMT
Although I would gutted to see either Willock or Chair or even both leave the club I’ve said before that it would be intriguing to see what MB could bring to the club if both left.
This video does not suggest to me that Willock will be signing an extension any time soon.
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Post by Corbray on Aug 9, 2022 9:24:31 GMT
i think willock still has 2 years left on his deal. he signed a 3 year deal with an option for one more so the ball is in our court at least for this season.
if we have a good season then its likely he'll sign a new contract with us but we should be looking to tie him down after the window's closed imo.
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Post by sparks on Aug 9, 2022 9:52:36 GMT
If Willock is sold I would personally be quite confident that MB would improve the side overall, this kind of deal is how Brentford improved year on year.
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Post by alanwycombe on Aug 9, 2022 11:25:43 GMT
If Willock is sold I would personally be quite confident that MB would improve the side overall, this kind of deal is how Brentford improved year on year. Not so confident about that. Willock is huge to us but Brentford had other good players bedded in so a newcomer could settle. Rather sell Chair, we could cope with that. |
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Post by sparks on Aug 9, 2022 11:32:12 GMT
Do you not have concerns that after this season his transfer value will substantially drop?
Not saying he will just run his contract down but being perfectly honest I think most people would if that opportunity arose.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Aug 9, 2022 11:43:28 GMT
If Willock is sold I would personally be quite confident that MB would improve the side overall, this kind of deal is how Brentford improved year on year. Not so confident about that. Willock is huge to us but Brentford had other good players bedded in so a newcomer could settle. Rather sell Chair, we could cope with that. With that logic you might as well say "I would prefer to sell Kakay". Of course Willock would be a bigger loss to the team. But as Sparks suggested, if you look at Brentford they sold their best player several times. Of course its gutting as a fan. But even Chair is unlikely to raise the funds we need. Its only the premier league sides and maybe a few parachute clubs than can pay the big bucks. If Chair is as bad as a lot of fans are saying on here (judging by a recent thread, most fans don't even want him in our team), why is a team that is much better than us going to buy him? The economics are simple. If we are going to get self sufficient and still leave us with funds to invest in the squad then we need to make an Eze level sale every year. Willock is the only player in our squad who comes close at the moment. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 9, 2022 11:49:24 GMT
Do you not have concerns that after this season his transfer value will substantially drop? Not saying he will just run his contract down but being perfectly honest I think most people would if that opportunity arose. Depends on what kind of a season we have. If Willock has a blinding season and we end up in the play-offs (or even autos), with that chance of promotion he'd then be more likely to stay, as he'd have a genuine opportunity of playing in the prem without needing to leave. We'd of course offer him better terms too. In a nutshell, so much of this debate is dependent on what kind of a season we have with him, and almost impossible to forecast after just two games into the season, much as it's tempting to do so. |
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Post by sparks on Aug 9, 2022 12:02:57 GMT
Knowing our finances Stan how do you think our owners would look at the situation? How would having another BOS situation sit with most fans?
From my own perspective I don’t think it’s reality to think we are likely to have a blinding season, the general noises from MB suggest that this season will be a rebuilding period due to how the squad age is being lowered.
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 9, 2022 12:16:29 GMT
From my own perspective I don’t think it’s reality to think we are likely to have a blinding season, the general noises from MB suggest that this season will be a rebuilding period due to how the squad age is being lowered. He's always going to down-play our prospects, that's to be expected. His last interview he said he'd like us to be "under the radar". I respect your opinion but, as I say, just think it's way too early to tell how the season will pan out, especially with the current window still open, as well as with so many key players still to return to fitness. And our first two games are encouraging considering that latter point. |
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Post by sparks on Aug 9, 2022 12:24:15 GMT
I’m putting this out there Stan hoping that somebody can shoot me down in flames, but being realistic I can only see someone like Chair being sold as a stop gap to relieve our current financial problem this season to stay under FFP.
Unless others are sold where is the money coming from to complete our obligations for Richards and Roberts?
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 9, 2022 12:30:00 GMT
I’m putting this out there Stan hoping that somebody can shoot me down in flames, but being realistic I can only see someone like Chair being sold as a stop gap to relieve our current financial problem.Unless others are sold where is the money coming from to complete our obligations for Richards and Roberts? I'd agree with that and would even be in favour of it for reasons I've previously discussed re Chair. And re BOS, Sparks - he and Willock are very different characters IMO. Personally can't see Willock behaving like that. If Willock's contract gets run down but at the same time he's still happy playing for us, then things can still work to both his and the club's favour. If we get to the play-offs or promotion with him and his contract gets run down it's still potentially a net positive situation for him and the club. |
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Post by sparks on Aug 9, 2022 12:43:20 GMT
Are you saying it’s another Warburton type shit or bust season then 🤣
From what I read about McNamara contract negotiations with Millwall he was happy to some terms (5yr) on a new contract but was not prepared to sign due to the club insisting on a high £5m release clause.
If Chair being sold enables finances to give Willock an improved contract extension then it’s possible a similar problem could arise.
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