|
|
Post by jfrabbit on Sept 3, 2022 16:46:50 GMT
That’s the most pissed off I’ve felt this season because Swansea’s a poor team. They even gave debuts to two youngsters we made it so easy. No wins at home. On the cards weren’t it. It’s the Rangers way. Bad thing is they cut us open more times than I can remember. |
|
|
|
Post by sparks on Sept 3, 2022 16:49:56 GMT
I can’t remember a single telling pass he made in either game You must have missed both goals he gave assists too. And that's just for starters. Sportsman’s bet Stan when all players are fit Johansen is a second half sub at best. |
|
|
|
Post by alanwycombe on Sept 3, 2022 16:50:25 GMT
That’s the most pissed off I’ve felt this season because Swansea’s a poor team. They even gave debuts to two youngsters we made it so easy. No wins at home. On the cards weren’t it. It’s the Rangers way. Bad thing is they cut us open more times than I can remember. Dickie and Dunne looked like they’ve never met. |
|
|
|
Post by jfrabbit on Sept 3, 2022 16:51:56 GMT
Very disjointed today.
Balogun alongside one of those needs to happen.
|
|
|
|
Post by Stanley75 on Sept 3, 2022 16:52:17 GMT
You must have missed both goals he gave assists too. And that's just for starters. Sportsman’s bet Stan when all players are fit Johansen is a second half sub at best. Field was FAR worse than Stef today. I find it incredible that you're not singling him out instead. As I say, it's amazing two people can watch the same game and come away with two totally different impressions. All about opinions as usual. |
|
|
|
Post by sparks on Sept 3, 2022 16:59:20 GMT
Sportsman’s bet Stan when all players are fit Johansen is a second half sub at best. Field was FAR worse than Stef today. I find it incredible that you're not singling him out instead. I’m not denying Field was poor too, he looked out of sorts the previous match too. Im just not in the camp that Johansen is such an important player for the team, he doesn’t do what a creative MF should be doing. |
|
|
|
Post by Stanley75 on Sept 3, 2022 17:08:37 GMT
Field was FAR worse than Stef today. I find it incredible that you're not singling him out instead. As I say, it's amazing two people can watch the same game and come away with two totally different impressions. All about opinions as usual. I’m not denying Field was poor too, he looked out of sorts the previous match too. Im just not in the camp that Johansen is such an important player for the team, he doesn’t do what a creative MF should be doing. Sparks, Johansen was superb in the previous two games, but we'll have to agree to disagree on that. As I say, IMO: I can still respect your view if you take a different one though. |
|
|
|
Post by sparks on Sept 3, 2022 17:13:21 GMT
I can still respect your view if you take a different one though. We can agree on that, now what about that sportsman’s bet 😎 |
|
|
|
Post by Stanley75 on Sept 3, 2022 17:22:26 GMT
I can still respect your view if you take a different one though. We can agree on that, now what about that sportsman’s bet 😎 Had we not signed Tim I may have taken you up on it, but that signing changes the dynamic of the MF now. IMO Johansen is still ahead of Field and Dozzell, but probably on an equal pegging with Tim, Richards and Amos (when the latter two are fit). So that's 4 players competing for 3 positions. At least that's how I envisage it. |
|
|
|
Post by acricketer on Sept 3, 2022 17:26:17 GMT
Back to earth with a thump
|
|
|
|
Post by West Acton on Sept 3, 2022 17:33:52 GMT
Field was FAR worse than Stef today. I find it incredible that you're not singling him out instead. I’m not denying Field was poor too, he looked out of sorts the previous match too. Im just not in the camp that Johansen is such an important player for the team, he doesn’t do what a creative MF should be doing. genuine question if you dont think he does what a creative MF Should do why do you think Dom Ball would do better? Stefan flat compared to previous games but better then dozzell and field today by done distance |
|
|
|
Post by West Acton on Sept 3, 2022 17:42:37 GMT
Slightly concerning listening that interview, especially at start when he says I’ve got no idea why they are playing so high 😳 it’s not the plan!! If it’s not the plan then get on the sideline and bark out the orders and get them deeper
|
|
|
|
Post by sparks on Sept 3, 2022 17:52:41 GMT
I’m not denying Field was poor too, he looked out of sorts the previous match too. Im just not in the camp that Johansen is such an important player for the team, he doesn’t do what a creative MF should be doing. genuine question if you dont think he does what a creative MF Should do why do you think Dom Ball would do better? Stefan flat compared to previous games but better then dozzell and field today by done distance If you wish to continue to look through rose tinted glasses regarding Johansen that’s ok by me.My point to Stan is, if all that our captain and main creative midfield player can do is press opponents into a mistake then Dom Ball is quite capable of doing the same.I would certainly be expecting more from our most experienced player. As I stated earlier there were plenty of others that were piss poor today too. |
|
|
|
Post by West Acton on Sept 3, 2022 17:59:52 GMT
Sorry if I upset you
|
|
|
|
Post by acricketer on Sept 3, 2022 18:06:57 GMT
This is what I get when I change my prediction. Another Saturday ruined.
|
|
|
|
Post by spongeparr on Sept 3, 2022 18:11:17 GMT
Slightly concerning listening that interview, especially at start when he says I’ve got no idea why they are playing so high 😳 it’s not the plan!! If it’s not the plan then get on the sideline and bark out the orders and get them deeper Quite liked what he said about himself, should have made changes earlier etc. Think he's talked himself into changing a cb for the next game. At least its a full week of training to get ideas across. |
|
|
|
Post by alanwycombe on Sept 3, 2022 18:11:26 GMT
Lots of teams play settled sides. We now have 5 subs. Why can’t we play two games a week without being tired and jaded? What happened to not changing a winning team? Not tired then.
|
|
|
|
Post by spongeparr on Sept 3, 2022 18:19:21 GMT
Sometimes it works, sometimes not.
Couple of years back, Norwich played 3 games in the week and won all 3.
Mclaren copied them and we did the same. When we changed the team on the 3rd game, we lost.
|
|
|
|
Post by Stanley75 on Sept 3, 2022 19:08:43 GMT
genuine question if you dont think he does what a creative MF Should do why do you think Dom Ball would do better? Stefan flat compared to previous games but better then dozzell and field today by done distance If you wish to continue to look through rose tinted glasses regarding Johansen that’s ok by me.My point to Stan is, if all that our captain and main creative midfield player can do is press opponents into a mistake then Dom Ball is quite capable of doing the same.I would certainly be expecting more from our most experienced player. As I stated earlier there were plenty of others that were piss poor today too. Sparks, earlier you said, re Watford and Hull: "I can’t remember a single telling pass Johansen made in either game". I then pointed out that he gave the assists for both Chair and Willocks goals in the Hull game, as well as the Chair assist in the Watford game. But for whatever reason you chose to ignore that clear contradiction? At least concede you overlooked that mate? |
|
|
|
Post by James1979 on Sept 3, 2022 19:11:51 GMT
I was a bit surprised we signed a midfielder but I think now makes perfect sense.
|
|
|
|
Post by sparks on Sept 3, 2022 19:15:06 GMT
I haven’t replied because I honestly can’t remember them Stan? We’re they both telling passes?
I’m guessing that one is winning a tackle against Hull?
I just expect much more from him.
|
|
|
|
Post by Stanley75 on Sept 3, 2022 19:20:24 GMT
We’re they both telling passes? Three assists for three of the goals over the two games. |
|
|
|
Post by sparks on Sept 3, 2022 19:54:23 GMT
We’re they both telling passes? Three assists for three of the goals over the two games. Still only remember one in Hull game but will have a look later. Maybe it’s just me but I would naturally expect defence splitting passes or accurate long passes from a creative MF player, I don’t see that in Johansen but very occasionally do in Dozzell. |
|
|
|
Post by sparks on Sept 3, 2022 20:42:31 GMT
We’re they both telling passes? Three assists for three of the goals over the two games. I certainly can’t deny that Johansen is given three assists for both games Stan but being perfectly honest none of them really were down to a difficult pass completed. The Watford assist for Chair was a 6 yard pass driven at a difficult pace for Chair to control. Both Hull assists were the result of winning a tackle and the ball running loose to both Willock and Chair. |
|
|
|
Post by Ginger Ninja on Sept 3, 2022 20:59:20 GMT
Refreshingly honest interview from Beale there.
|
|
|
|
Post by Stanley75 on Sept 3, 2022 21:37:29 GMT
Three assists for three of the goals over the two games. I certainly can’t deny that Johansen is given three assists for both games Stan but being perfectly honest none of them really were down to a difficult pass completed. The Watford assist for Chair was a 6 yard pass driven at a difficult pace for Chair to control. Both Hull assists were the result of winning a tackle and the ball running loose to both Willock and Chair. I really think you're being harsh Sparks. Fact is he was there and involved in the goals. Furthermore, as I say, it wasn't just the assists as his overall play in both games was excellent. Most posters on here commented on it at the time. It's all in the match threads. Opinions though, as ever, and clearly we're not going to agree on this one. |
|
