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Post by jfrabbit on Jan 8, 2023 11:14:09 GMT
It's clear we are carrying some dead wood and need to have a clear out but, who do you think should go?
My personal feelings are the following players should be sold or released to free up funds:
Jordan Archer Luke Amos Lyndon Dykes George Thomas Niko Hamalainen Andre Dozzell Conor Masterson Charlie Owens Olamide Shodipo Joe Walsh Albert Adomah
Thoughts?
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 8, 2023 11:25:55 GMT
I liked what I saw of Masterson a couple of years ago, potential there I think. Otherwise….can’t really argue with that.
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 8, 2023 11:27:06 GMT
Trouble is, there are three parts of fuck all to be raised there.
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Post by Greg1882 on Jan 8, 2023 11:29:56 GMT
Trouble is, there are three parts of fuck all to be raised there. Lots of wages to be saved though and most on that list are either not good enough or never fit enough so just get rid. We carry a large squad of nothingness
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Post by Greg1882 on Jan 8, 2023 11:30:43 GMT
Of that list the only one I’d keep is joe Walsh
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 8, 2023 11:35:21 GMT
Of that list the only one I’d keep is joe Walsh Yes, good call actually.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2023 11:39:00 GMT
Jordan Archer Lyndon Dykes George Thomas Niko Hamalainen Andre Dozzell Charlie Owens Stefan Johansen Tyler Roberts Taylor Richards
would keep Uncs, Masterson, Walsh and Shodipo
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Post by jfrabbit on Jan 8, 2023 11:45:00 GMT
I liked what I saw of Masterson a couple of years ago, potential there I think. Otherwise….can’t really argue with that. I did too but just hasn't for some reason done enough to impress any manager so far so that tells me something.
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 8, 2023 11:50:19 GMT
Jordan Archer Lyndon Dykes George Thomas Niko Hamalainen Andre Dozzell Charlie Owens Stefan Johansen Tyler Roberts Taylor Richards would keep Uncs, Masterson, Walsh and Shodipo Give Sinton’s job to Uncle 😁
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Post by Corbray on Jan 8, 2023 12:04:57 GMT
archer masterson hammarshit owens amos shodipo thomas dykes
would keep dozzell as i can still see a player in there. uncs for vibes, lots of the younger players look up to him and he's good for getting the crowd going plus he's not actually terrible imo.
i've always been a big fan of amos and if he was still in good form i'd say he's worth keeping despite the injuries but he's really dropped off now so its probably for the best to let him go.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 8, 2023 12:34:56 GMT
Clear out is great, if u have a decent squad and depth which we don’t. And would only at best replace with much the same so defeats the objective
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 8, 2023 14:07:40 GMT
archer masterson hammarshit owens amos shodipo thomas dykes would keep dozzell as i can still see a player in there. uncs for vibes, lots of the younger players look up to him and he's good for getting the crowd going plus he's not actually terrible imo. i've always been a big fan of amos and if he was still in good form i'd say he's worth keeping despite the injuries but he's really dropped off now so its probably for the best to let him go. Also a fan of Amos but I can’t see him ever being as good as he once was at Spurs before the serious injuries. Looks like he’ll always be fragile, and seems to play with something held back.
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Post by Shania on Jan 8, 2023 15:49:44 GMT
It really baffles that no-one wants Dickie and Dunne out. I know that I do.
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Post by jfrabbit on Jan 8, 2023 15:52:43 GMT
It really baffles that no-one wants Dikie and Dunne out. I know that I do. Both good players on a bit of bad form. Others for me proven to be either shit, never fit, nowhere near first team or useless when they get a chance. These two can play. They just need to cut out silly mistakes. My opinion.
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Post by Shania on Jan 8, 2023 15:55:31 GMT
It really baffles that no-one wants Dikie and Dunne out. I know that I do. Both good players on a bit of bad form. Others for me proven to be either shit, never fit, nowhere near first team or useless when they get a chance. These two can play. They just need to cut out silly mistakes. My opinion. Fair enough, but I disagree. Imo, they are both too one-dimensional.
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Post by James1979 on Jan 8, 2023 16:27:41 GMT
Agree but should we stop at just the players. We lack cash to spend so let’s cut costs.
1) Get rid of our youth team set up, players and coaches. Let’s stop the romantic nonsense of developing players. It’s the 1st team results that matter. 2) Start picking up all the best players who drop out of the Cat 1 Academies at 18. No one will care if we go on a good cup run with a load of Chelsea and Tottenham rejects. 3) Field our B team purely from those players we get under 2. 4) Get rid of DOF position. Get Manager and CEO to take up his responsibilities.
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 8, 2023 16:30:30 GMT
Masterson stays. I wouldn't worry too much that successive managers have sidelined him (ie the same people who kept playing Dykes).
The clear out we desperately need is in the boardroom but thats another story.
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Post by Corbray on Jan 8, 2023 16:41:29 GMT
It really baffles that no-one wants Dikie and Dunne out. I know that I do. Both good players on a bit of bad form. Others for me proven to be either shit, never fit, nowhere near first team or useless when they get a chance. These two can play. They just need to cut out silly mistakes. My opinion. i've heard people suggest moving back into a back 3. makes sense, we played some great stuff with 3 at the back in the past.
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 8, 2023 16:59:13 GMT
Agree but should we stop at just the players. We lack cash to spend so let’s cut costs. 1) Get rid of our youth team set up, players and coaches. Let’s stop the romantic nonsense of developing players. It’s the 1st team results that matter. 2) Start picking up all the best players who drop out of the Cat 1 Academies at 18. No one will care if we go on a good cup run with a load of Chelsea and Tottenham rejects. 3) Field our B team purely from those players we get under 2. 4) Get rid of DOF position. Get Manager and CEO to take up his responsibilities. Very interesting…..
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Post by Greg1882 on Jan 8, 2023 17:18:55 GMT
Agree but should we stop at just the players. We lack cash to spend so let’s cut costs. 1) Get rid of our youth team set up, players and coaches. Let’s stop the romantic nonsense of developing players. It’s the 1st team results that matter. 2) Start picking up all the best players who drop out of the Cat 1 Academies at 18. No one will care if we go on a good cup run with a load of Chelsea and Tottenham rejects. 3) Field our B team purely from those players we get under 2. 4) Get rid of DOF position. Get Manager and CEO to take up his responsibilities. Nail. Fucking. Head 👏🏻
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 8, 2023 18:31:49 GMT
We be better off ding some ink us with bigger sides and abroad. If we skint and doing oan route at east we should get a set level in.
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Post by shepherdsmush on Jan 8, 2023 18:34:49 GMT
Wouldn't part with Masterson. Bit divided on Amos as he's a good player at this level but he's injured far too often to spend the dough on so we should probably get rid.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jan 8, 2023 20:09:37 GMT
Trouble is, there are three parts of fuck all to be raised there. Lots of wages to be saved though and most on that list are either not good enough or never fit enough so just get rid. We carry a large squad of nothingness No wages saved at all. Think about it. You have a contract for three years and it is worth half a mill or more. Would you rip it up? When you know your future lies in the lower leagues on much lower wages. Alan rightly asks if there would be much money saved - but it’s actually much worse than that. We would have to pay off their contracts. So the up front costs are actually way more than letting their contracts run out. There is no magic money tree in any of these players.
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Post by MattyRangers on Jan 9, 2023 8:01:38 GMT
It's clear we are carrying some dead wood and need to have a clear out but, who do you think should go? My personal feelings are the following players should be sold or released to free up funds: Jordan Archer Luke Amos Lyndon Dykes George Thomas Niko Hamalainen Andre Dozzell Conor Masterson Charlie Owens Olamide Shodipo Joe Walsh Albert Adomah Thoughts? Wouldn't lose a wink of sleep over any of them going. Have always liked Amos but he seems to have gone backwards. Love Albert but he is a glorified 35 year old cheerleader. Dozzell I always thought had a player in him somewhere but has had plenty of time now & never really shown a great deal. Rest are no brainers and add fark all to the squad (won't mention Dykes as we all know most of our thoughts on him...).
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Post by jfrabbit on Feb 26, 2023 8:13:17 GMT
It's clear we are carrying some dead wood and need to have a clear out but, who do you think should go? My personal feelings are the following players should be sold or released to free up funds: Jordan Archer Luke Amos Lyndon Dykes George Thomas Niko Hamalainen Andre Dozzell Conor Masterson Charlie Owens Olamide Shodipo Joe Walsh Albert Adomah Thoughts? Update: Thomas - Gone Masterson - Out on loan The rest stays the same for me. Yet again yesterday, Adomah & Dozzell reinforced my feeling that they're just no good. Absolutely shit the pair of them yesterday when they got their chances.
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Post by 1973ranger on Feb 26, 2023 8:45:05 GMT
Dozzell from today Dickie Chair JCS Balogun Archer Dieng Willock Dunne Adomah Field Johansen Lowe Roberts from Today
And anyone else who played from Jan to May last year and from December 22 to Now. Put every single one of these players up for sale as they will do this again and again. Not an ounce of pride or character in then.
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 26, 2023 9:02:03 GMT
Not sure you give away half of them at the moment
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Post by 1973ranger on Feb 26, 2023 9:11:44 GMT
Not sure you give away half of them at the moment As long as we do not pay them tossers I do not care. 40 odd years going down and this team is the one have least or no connection to.
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Post by jfrabbit on Feb 26, 2023 9:16:03 GMT
Spineless
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Post by MattyRangers on Feb 26, 2023 10:04:38 GMT
Dickie has also totally fallen off a cliff this season. Absolute garbage again yesterday.
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