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Post by sparks on Feb 12, 2023 8:24:13 GMT
My worry is no player looks to have shown any sustained improvement since he joined, Lowe looked well off yesterday, near certainly because he played so deep, Critchley got that wrong but fails in all his post match to acknowledge any blame whatsoever for his decisions and prefers to call it systemic to the club past performances.
He’s been very fortunate to have joined where he’s had a clear week of training between each game but has failed to capitalise on that too.
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Post by 1973ranger on Feb 12, 2023 8:49:35 GMT
NC has sucked it out of him and everyone else. imagine turning up everyday and thats the guy overseeing your career. Always somebody else’s fault 🙄. What about personal pride and responsibility Whilst fans offer piss poor excuses like this things will remain as they are for the club as the players Will get a free pass. These players are rotten and have no pride and right now who in this squad can you see grabbing hold of the team and making the difference. None as all are hiding behind a manager that seems to be not doing good enough |
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Post by itsonlyagame on Feb 12, 2023 8:53:33 GMT
The players have previous for this, under other managers. Plus, let’s face it, NC walked into a bit of a shit storm post Beale, with heads well and truly down amongst the group.
We are not getting relegated this season and anyone who’s soiling their undercrackers thinking we will needs their head testing imo.
Sacking him now seems utterly pointless. For what, rush in a new manager who still has to deal with the same issues with the same players and if we’re lucky might help us finish 10th instead of 14th.
However bland he comes across the players need to take a huge amount of responsibility for this. What we really need is for one or two of them to stand up and be counted. A bit of leadership, pride and self motivation wouldn’t go amiss.
Yes, it could be argued that it’s the managers job to install that into the team but you need some leaders in the group and we just don’t seem to have any.
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Post by West Acton on Feb 12, 2023 8:58:28 GMT
Always somebody else’s fault 🙄. What about personal pride and responsibility Whilst fans offer piss poor excuses like this things will remain as they are for the club as the players Will get a free pass. so NC is the right man to take us forward and get us playing again? no idea Corbs he appears to be struggling but how much of that is because of him and how much is it because of the players who knows. Your position appears to be to give the players a free pass and heap blame on manager I don’t agree with that position as this run started under beale; I’m pretty sure you would not be blaming him if he was in charge. Not much has changed in players or formation from the glory period of Beale, they managed to do a job for two months of the season then fell apart. Think the glare has to be at the players first and foremost before Beale, Critchley and Warburton. These cunts have form for falling apart from good positions. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 12, 2023 9:07:20 GMT
Think we as a club need to forget everything else, dof, new ground, shit window, etc etc etc. There’s only one thing needed and it’s the magic point total to scrape staying up. That’s it. Nothing now is anywhere as important. Staying up is everything, achieve that and then can look at everything else. Because way it looks it not a given we will.
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Post by Corbray on Feb 12, 2023 9:16:35 GMT
so NC is the right man to take us forward and get us playing again? no idea Corbs he appears to be struggling but how much of that is because of him and how much is it because of the players who knows. Your position appears to be to give the players a free pass and heap blame on manager I don’t agree with that position as this run started under beale; I’m pretty sure you would not be blaming him if he was in charge. Not much has changed in players or formation from the glory period of Beale, they managed to do a job for two months of the season then fell apart. Think the glare has to be at the players first and foremost before Beale, Critchley and Warburton. These cunts have form for falling apart from good positions. i tend to be very patient with managers westy, i'm more of a happy clapper than most people. but the reality of football is its far easier and more convenient to get rid of a manager than it is to get rid of players. as for if the eel was manager, yes i'd be calling for his sacking. if my wife was our manager and she'd lead us to 1 win in 10 i'd be calling for her to be kicked out of the club. i don't know why you're bringing the eel into it in the first place as if its some kind of "gotcha" and that i'll hold my hands up and admit i'm some kind of disciple of his or something. i don't think NC is the right man for the job and have said as much going right back to his appointment. 10 games later and i think those feelings have only gotten stronger. do i think the players are performing like shit? absolutely, they're all fucking awful and my posts recently will back that up. i don't understand what your entire point is as i've been ripping on the players just as much as everyone else. people are allowed different points of views westy and theres no need to start making presumptions. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 12, 2023 9:22:00 GMT
Think we as a club need to forget everything else, dof, new ground, shit window, etc etc etc. There’s only one thing needed and it’s the magic point total to scrape staying up. That’s it. Nothing now is anywhere as important. Staying up is everything, achieve that and then can look at everything else. Because way it looks it not a given we will. You can be quite sensible at times😂 |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 12, 2023 10:00:07 GMT
I’m not just a pretty face
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Post by West Acton on Feb 12, 2023 10:03:42 GMT
no idea Corbs he appears to be struggling but how much of that is because of him and how much is it because of the players who knows. Your position appears to be to give the players a free pass and heap blame on manager I don’t agree with that position as this run started under beale; I’m pretty sure you would not be blaming him if he was in charge. Not much has changed in players or formation from the glory period of Beale, they managed to do a job for two months of the season then fell apart. Think the glare has to be at the players first and foremost before Beale, Critchley and Warburton. These cunts have form for falling apart from good positions. i tend to be very patient with managers westy, i'm more of a happy clapper than most people. but the reality of football is its far easier and more convenient to get rid of a manager than it is to get rid of players. as for if the eel was manager, yes i'd be calling for his sacking. if my wife was our manager and she'd lead us to 1 win in 10 i'd be calling for her to be kicked out of the club. i don't know why you're bringing the eel into it in the first place as if its some kind of "gotcha" and that i'll hold my hands up and admit i'm some kind of disciple of his or something. i don't think NC is the right man for the job and have said as much going right back to his appointment. 10 games later and i think those feelings have only gotten stronger. do i think the players are performing like shit? absolutely, they're all fucking awful and my posts recently will back that up. i don't understand what your entire point is as i've been ripping on the players just as much as everyone else. people are allowed different points of views westy and theres no need to start making presumptions. indeed Corbs and I’ve offered my view. It’s not a dig at you per say as there are hundreds saying what you suggested. Don’t agree myself as set out. Think people all letting personal views on his personality influence what is going on, I get why in fairness. Manager is clearly struggling but I’m not prepared to lump it all on him as think players shoulder bulk of blame. |
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Post by shepherdsmush on Feb 12, 2023 13:01:52 GMT
Laird was fucking terrible yesterday. Where was he for that first goal and I can't even begin to comment on that header for the second.
No surprise every team takes us on down the right as we have no defenders who know how to play that position.
If I was Critch, I'd cancel Laird's loan and get any available out of contract RB
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 12, 2023 13:05:33 GMT
Get Danny rose in, free , experience, 32
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Post by shepherdsmush on Feb 12, 2023 13:22:57 GMT
Andre Wisdom
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Post by 1973ranger on Feb 12, 2023 14:56:43 GMT
i tend to be very patient with managers westy, i'm more of a happy clapper than most people. but the reality of football is its far easier and more convenient to get rid of a manager than it is to get rid of players. as for if the eel was manager, yes i'd be calling for his sacking. if my wife was our manager and she'd lead us to 1 win in 10 i'd be calling for her to be kicked out of the club. i don't know why you're bringing the eel into it in the first place as if its some kind of "gotcha" and that i'll hold my hands up and admit i'm some kind of disciple of his or something. i don't think NC is the right man for the job and have said as much going right back to his appointment. 10 games later and i think those feelings have only gotten stronger. do i think the players are performing like shit? absolutely, they're all fucking awful and my posts recently will back that up. i don't understand what your entire point is as i've been ripping on the players just as much as everyone else. people are allowed different points of views westy and theres no need to start making presumptions. indeed Corbs and I’ve offered my view. It’s not a dig at you per say as there are hundreds saying what you suggested. Don’t agree myself as set out. Think people all letting personal views on his personality influence what is going on, I get why in fairness. Manager is clearly struggling but I’m not prepared to lump it all on him as think players shoulder bulk of blame. Yoy just cannot rely on this group of players. They have no fight, pride or care for the club and its supporters |
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Post by Bill on Feb 12, 2023 14:59:15 GMT
indeed Corbs and I’ve offered my view. It’s not a dig at you per say as there are hundreds saying what you suggested. Don’t agree myself as set out. Think people all letting personal views on his personality influence what is going on, I get why in fairness. Manager is clearly struggling but I’m not prepared to lump it all on him as think players shoulder bulk of blame. Yoy just cannot rely on this group of players. They have no fight, pride or care for the club and its supporters Like the board |
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Post by sparks on Feb 12, 2023 16:26:25 GMT
This weekend Laird is the reason we lost, before that it was a Seny mistake that cost us 2 points before that it was Kakay, then either Iroegbunam ,Dunne or Dickie were the major culprits, whose turn is on Tuesday to take the hit for Critchley and his cronies being substandard.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 12, 2023 16:33:29 GMT
Zesh
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Post by 1973ranger on Feb 12, 2023 17:26:52 GMT
This weekend Laird is the reason we lost, before that it was a Seny mistake that cost us 2 points before that it was Kakay, then either Iroegbunam ,Dunne or Dickie were the major culprits, whose turn is on Tuesday to take the hit for Critchley and his cronies being substandard. Sparks. The manager up to this point has not been good enough. These shithouse players are just not up to it either as anyone can be good when all is going well but where is their pride in performance or are we saying they are doing well and are blameless for 9 points in 45 under 3 different coaches? |
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Post by Hitman34 on Feb 12, 2023 17:29:08 GMT
indeed Corbs and I’ve offered my view. It’s not a dig at you per say as there are hundreds saying what you suggested. Don’t agree myself as set out. Think people all letting personal views on his personality influence what is going on, I get why in fairness. Manager is clearly struggling but I’m not prepared to lump it all on him as think players shoulder bulk of blame. Yoy just cannot rely on this group of players. They have no fight, pride or care for the club and its supporters Filters down from the top |
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Post by 1973ranger on Feb 12, 2023 17:29:48 GMT
Yoy just cannot rely on this group of players. They have no fight, pride or care for the club and its supporters Filters down from the top No standards at all. |
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Post by shepherdsmush on Feb 13, 2023 0:44:05 GMT
Stop playing the loans....Laird....and play the kids who want to be here...end of
Bar possibly Lowe as he still has to prove himself...although will he bust a gut more than Armstrong and Martin?
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Post by 2Loftus on Feb 13, 2023 1:46:57 GMT
I think we’d be after someone a bit more like Norman Wisdom… |
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Post by jfrabbit on Feb 13, 2023 6:59:20 GMT
This weekend Laird is the reason we lost, before that it was a Seny mistake that cost us 2 points before that it was Kakay, then either Iroegbunam ,Dunne or Dickie were the major culprits, whose turn is on Tuesday to take the hit for Critchley and his cronies being substandard. My pal said to me watch Laird he cannot cross a ball. I laughed but after watching him he's right. Out of 10-12 opportunities with the ball at his feet, he either turns in and passes back or doesn't beat the first man. He delivered one good ball of note in the second half but apart from that I have to say my mate was right. Piss poor delivery and his positioning is found wanting at times also. He started brilliantly for us but like the rest of the side he's faded big time. |
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Post by shepherdsmush on Feb 13, 2023 12:19:05 GMT
This weekend Laird is the reason we lost, before that it was a Seny mistake that cost us 2 points before that it was Kakay, then either Iroegbunam ,Dunne or Dickie were the major culprits, whose turn is on Tuesday to take the hit for Critchley and his cronies being substandard. To be fair, Laird was so far in the wrong on 2 occasions this week that he just had to be dug out. |
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