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Post by stainrodisalegend on Apr 4, 2023 16:03:24 GMT
Realise that staying up at any cost has got to be the priority and its hard to think much beyond that.
But if anything I'm even more worried about next season. Teams get relegated but normally because they are on too small a budget for the league they are in. They pick themselves up and adjust. Few teams fall as far as we have the second half (or two thirds) of this season. That will have to leave a massive hangover at the club. Along with all the turbulence behind the scenes. Anyone who is any good will probably leave, but a large core of shell-shocked, demotivated players will remain, whatever division we are in.
The players we have in many cases I can't really see thriving in league one. This was a squad built on grander pretensions.
If by some miracle we stay up it will very much be due to points gained early this season. On form we are by a distance the worst team in this league. Given FFP we will have zero money to spend on the massive squad overhaul that is clearly desperately needed. Obvs lots can change but very difficult right now to see where that magic ingredient is going to come from to make us a competitive team next season.
Apologies for the negative tone here, I normally try to stay reasonably upbeat, but its hard at the moment because there isn't really a single ray of sunshine you can point to and say "that's the future, that's brighter". There isn't a quick fix either. Everyone has their blame figure (the board, Les, various managers, the players, whoever) but its a collective failure not helped by football economics. Followed the club loyally in the third tier once before, not sure I have enough enthusiasm remaining to watch too many games in the third tier again. A real shame, as just for a minute or two it has looked these last two or three years as if we might be building something...
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 4, 2023 16:08:49 GMT
I feel for you, live in kent is hard get use too but your legal entertainment imploding game after game is kicking u when down.
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Post by 2Loftus on Apr 4, 2023 16:33:25 GMT
Think we'll just about stay up this year.
Got a feeling the owners are getting bored/twitchy - will they sell next season?
We need a rebuild (again...) - we're back to being worse off in all respects than when Warbs took over 4 years ago, possibly since JFH.
Life as a QPR fan...
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 4, 2023 16:43:37 GMT
Think we'll just about stay up this year. Got a feeling the owners are getting bored/twitchy - will they sell next season? We need a rebuild (again...) - we're back to being worse off in all respects than when Warbs took over 4 years ago, possibly since JFH. Life as a QPR fan... Big mistake, as was said by some on here at the time, was not bringing in a decent striker in Jan 22 when our good form up to then had put us in with a very good shout at promotion. Well worth the risk. Look at us now. |
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Post by West Acton on Apr 4, 2023 17:41:50 GMT
Think we'll just about stay up this year. Got a feeling the owners are getting bored/twitchy - will they sell next season? We need a rebuild (again...) - we're back to being worse off in all respects than when Warbs took over 4 years ago, possibly since JFH. Life as a QPR fan... Big mistake, as was said by some on here at the time, was not bringing in a decent striker in Jan 22 when our good form up to then had put us in with a very good shout at promotion. Well worth the risk. Look at us now. we’re not supposed to talk about the past it’s done 😁 |
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Post by hubble on Apr 4, 2023 18:26:07 GMT
Big mistake, as was said by some on here at the time, was not bringing in a decent striker in Jan 22 when our good form up to then had put us in with a very good shout at promotion. Well worth the risk. Look at us now. we’re not supposed to talk about the past it’s done 😁
Ooh he doesn't like being contradicted does he, Mr Conflation 😂
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Post by West Acton on Apr 4, 2023 18:30:32 GMT
Talking of next season god knows how we’re planning for it. What league will we be in. Cant really do anything until we know that which probably puts us on back foot already.
Don’t seem be anything positive current time. Every question produces more concerns.
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Post by Hitman34 on Apr 5, 2023 7:51:04 GMT
Realise that staying up at any cost has got to be the priority and its hard to think much beyond that. But if anything I'm even more worried about next season. Teams get relegated but normally because they are on too small a budget for the league they are in. They pick themselves up and adjust. Few teams fall as far as we have the second half (or two thirds) of this season. That will have to leave a massive hangover at the club. Along with all the turbulence behind the scenes. Anyone who is any good will probably leave, but a large core of shell-shocked, demotivated players will remain, whatever division we are in. The players we have in many cases I can't really see thriving in league one. This was a squad built on grander pretensions. If by some miracle we stay up it will very much be due to points gained early this season. On form we are by a distance the worst team in this league. Given FFP we will have zero money to spend on the massive squad overhaul that is clearly desperately needed. Obvs lots can change but very difficult right now to see where that magic ingredient is going to come from to make us a competitive team next season. Apologies for the negative tone here, I normally try to stay reasonably upbeat, but its hard at the moment because there isn't really a single ray of sunshine you can point to and say "that's the future, that's brighter". There isn't a quick fix either. Everyone has their blame figure (the board, Les, various managers, the players, whoever) but its a collective failure not helped by football economics. Followed the club loyally in the third tier once before, not sure I have enough enthusiasm remaining to watch too many games in the third tier again. A real shame, as just for a minute or two it has looked these last two or three years as if we might be building something... i was one that called for Warburton's head (i call for them all). Had i known we would end up with an eyebrowless, long haired, ugly looking witch who walks about on the sidelines with red fucking heeled shoes, i would have kept my mouth shut. all this talk of, we have a great manager that knows how to get out of league 1, can i ask, how many times in his 13 years in charge of wycombe did he manage to get promotion from league 1? |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 5, 2023 8:04:09 GMT
Realise that staying up at any cost has got to be the priority and its hard to think much beyond that. But if anything I'm even more worried about next season. Teams get relegated but normally because they are on too small a budget for the league they are in. They pick themselves up and adjust. Few teams fall as far as we have the second half (or two thirds) of this season. That will have to leave a massive hangover at the club. Along with all the turbulence behind the scenes. Anyone who is any good will probably leave, but a large core of shell-shocked, demotivated players will remain, whatever division we are in. The players we have in many cases I can't really see thriving in league one. This was a squad built on grander pretensions. If by some miracle we stay up it will very much be due to points gained early this season. On form we are by a distance the worst team in this league. Given FFP we will have zero money to spend on the massive squad overhaul that is clearly desperately needed. Obvs lots can change but very difficult right now to see where that magic ingredient is going to come from to make us a competitive team next season. Apologies for the negative tone here, I normally try to stay reasonably upbeat, but its hard at the moment because there isn't really a single ray of sunshine you can point to and say "that's the future, that's brighter". There isn't a quick fix either. Everyone has their blame figure (the board, Les, various managers, the players, whoever) but its a collective failure not helped by football economics. Followed the club loyally in the third tier once before, not sure I have enough enthusiasm remaining to watch too many games in the third tier again. A real shame, as just for a minute or two it has looked these last two or three years as if we might be building something... i was one that called for Warburton's head (i call for them all). Had i known we would end up with an eyebrowless, long haired, ugly looking witch who walks about on the sidelines with red fucking heeled shoes, i would have kept my mouth shut. all this talk of, we have a great manager that knows how to get out of league 1, can i ask, how many times in his 13 years in charge of wycombe did he manage to get promotion from league 1? I know u should judge people on what they do not how they look but fuck me, time warp Tim’s look let alone what he has done scares me |
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 5, 2023 9:33:56 GMT
He can run up and down stark bollock naked for all I care if he gets them performing for at least two more wins
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Apr 5, 2023 10:06:32 GMT
I feel for you, live in kent is hard get use too but your legal entertainment imploding game after game is kicking u when down. Not going to lie, its been a long old winter in god's own county of Kent, surrounded by more mud than on a 1970s football pitch. Think you have the right idea as you always abroad, escaping Essex, understandably really |
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Post by Bill on Apr 29, 2023 16:13:02 GMT
Starts now.
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Post by 1973ranger on Apr 29, 2023 16:14:54 GMT
Agreed Bill. Get deals done for players who are moving on and do not have them anywhere near a pre season.
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Post by Hitman34 on Apr 29, 2023 16:16:40 GMT
Spot on, Bill. just posted on the match thread that its now time to bin the trash and its mates and rebuild. We need medical team, coaches, trainers, a dof and an expert in raising revenue from sponsorship and advertising. Time to get rid of les and mates, nowwwww |
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Post by Rangers77 on Apr 29, 2023 16:19:10 GMT
Off you go, Les. Immediately.
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Post by Hitman34 on Apr 29, 2023 16:21:04 GMT
Off you go, Les. Immediately. he needs to be the first, gone. i expect an announcement soon. |
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Post by The General on Apr 29, 2023 16:27:30 GMT
Dreading next season already it’s going to be a lot harder than this year look at the teams
Hopefully we will now see a club sale and takeover and Les resigning
That bloke that wants buy Man Utd would be good
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Post by Norfolk Ranger on Apr 29, 2023 18:06:33 GMT
An absolute massive summer ahead,club needs a complete rebuild, starting from the useless Dof leaving now so we can get one in place to start the process
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Post by Bill on May 5, 2023 11:47:29 GMT
I do hope that we move quickly this transfer window coming.
I would also like the following resolved quickly
Is the club for sale.
Is Hoos leaving.
Is Ferdinand leaving.
Is Ainsworth to remain manager.
Is there to be a new ground or are we looking at rehousing tenants from Ellerslie,Loftus Rd and Bloemfontin Rd to old oak and improving the ground we have.
Imo all these questions need to be addressed and answered as the line of communication is hopeless and needs to be improved.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on May 5, 2023 12:27:36 GMT
I do hope that we move quickly this transfer window coming. I would also like the following resolved quickly Is the club for sale. Is Hoos leaving. Is Ferdinand leaving. Is Ainsworth to remain manager. Is there to be a new ground or are we looking at rehousing tenants from Ellerslie,Loftus Rd and Bloemfontin Rd to old oak and improving the ground we have. Imo all these questions need to be addressed and answered as the line of communication is hopeless and needs to be improved. No No No No No No No No No No No |
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Post by Corbray on May 5, 2023 18:28:00 GMT
clear out the dead wood and reinvest in younger players and players that fit the mold. willock obviously needs shifting, great player absolutely but i think its fairly obvious that his time here is up and tbh i still think we could get a decent fee for him regardless of his recent form and injuries. not as much as we could have mind you but a couple of million.
chair and dieng probably need shifting too. i love both of them but we need the money and squad improvements more than we need them in the side. plus in chair's case i think we already have a replacement in richards who will hopefully step it up and put his issues behind him next season.
there's a few positions that need sorting out, a new RB is a must as i would love to see kakay shifting to RW next season whilst also being a backup RB. i think he was up there as one of our better players in the 2nd half of the season and would excel under gaz, plus his first time crosses are great.
striker is the obvious one. mullin and langstaff have both been mentioned as possibilities on here but i could see wrexham and notts county both demanding hefty fees for either one given the form they've both been in.
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Post by Corbray on May 8, 2023 14:53:23 GMT
i think we'll have some money to spend tbh. willock is a certainty to go, probably for 2 or 3m. not great but its something.
i can see a few others going too namely chair, dozzell and dieng plus the players who'll get released.
there's also the new sky tv deal too which will increase our TV revenue by 50% or something but i don't know whether that comes into effect next season.
even if we only had 3 or 4m to spend its still decent
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Post by stainrodisalegend on May 8, 2023 21:40:53 GMT
i think we'll have some money to spend tbh. willock is a certainty to go, probably for 2 or 3m. not great but its something. i can see a few others going too namely chair, dozzell and dieng plus the players who'll get released. there's also the new sky tv deal too which will increase our TV revenue by 50% or something but i don't know whether that comes into effect next season. even if we only had 3 or 4m to spend its still decent Remember the most recent accounts so we are on course to massively break FFP two years down the line so massive belt tightening needed. Doubt any of that revenue will be reinvested. Happy to be proved wrong! |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on May 9, 2023 6:35:15 GMT
So noddy already said we got to cut back. Any players that can will be sold, local nursing homes will be raided for talent along with the wildernesses of our b team to fill the void. Now we will also need a few loans but what club will let their talent come here? The clubs in turmoil, the football looking like will be anti football,so why would u send players for us to ruin. Rotherham will pick up more than us.
Know I keep banging on but he got to go
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Post by gtleighsr3 on May 9, 2023 6:38:11 GMT
FFP has effectively fucked this club now. How are u supposed to compete on £25 a season transfer budget
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Post by shepherdsmush on May 9, 2023 19:58:27 GMT
No need to get any of those loans back in and hopefully there will be a massive clear out to follow
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Post by Shania on May 9, 2023 20:38:05 GMT
Not very likely I know, but It would be nice to see Laird coming back. Another season here under GA could actually benefit him in the long run. The fact that success doesn't come cheaply is what many of these young players should learn sooner rather than later. It also has to be said that Laird is not the worst as far as grit and determination are concerned.
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Post by acricketer on May 9, 2023 23:04:48 GMT
Another season ruined
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Post by 2Loftus on May 10, 2023 6:56:36 GMT
Nice to see Gareth is doing some team-building early doors now the season is over.
Lovely video showing the team at the seaside together getting some advanced skills training.
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Post by itsonlyagame on May 10, 2023 11:00:53 GMT
Nice to see Gareth is doing some team-building early doors now the season is over. Lovely video showing the team at the seaside together getting some advanced skills training. Apparently Ainsworth suggested they do something traditional and ride a donkey. At which point Lyndon got on all fours and said “who’s first” |
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