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Post by hubble on Oct 23, 2024 11:58:37 GMT
Despite the performances so far, calling for Marti to go is just lunacy. There was enough last night to convince me he's going to turn things round and he's shown me enough since he's been here to prove he's got what it takes. All managers have bad spells. Trigger-happy firing has become the norm in football these days, but it rarely works. He's signed a new contract and he's staying. Bookmark this page and come back to it in three months and let's see where we are.
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Post by shepherdsmush on Oct 23, 2024 11:59:18 GMT
I just cannot stand this pissing about at the back....never been a fan of it by any manager and no-one is gonna change my opinion on it. Cifuentes does a lot of things right but this insistence to play out from the back frightens the life out of me.
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Post by MattyRangers on Oct 23, 2024 12:40:41 GMT
I just cannot stand this pissing about at the back....never been a fan of it by any manager and no-one is gonna change my opinion on it. Cifuentes does a lot of things right but this insistence to play out from the back frightens the life out of me. You must despise all modern football then mush lol |
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Post by James1979 on Oct 23, 2024 12:45:48 GMT
Sometimes it does open up spaces but not all the time. We should mix it up more.
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Post by shepherdsmush on Oct 23, 2024 13:29:17 GMT
I just cannot stand this pissing about at the back....never been a fan of it by any manager and no-one is gonna change my opinion on it. Cifuentes does a lot of things right but this insistence to play out from the back frightens the life out of me. You must despise all modern football then mush lol Can't recall 10 passes between CB's and a GK back in my day but we did love a long pass forward or a quick one touch through the midfield. To be fair, there was a lot of passing back and kicking it long, picking up the ball after it bounced off a CB lump. |
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Post by Timmy Doc on Oct 23, 2024 13:44:49 GMT
I just cannot stand this pissing about at the back....never been a fan of it by any manager and no-one is gonna change my opinion on it. Cifuentes does a lot of things right but this insistence to play out from the back frightens the life out of me. You must despise all modern football then mush lol True, not so long ago goalkeepers opened the play by kicking the ball from hands as far as possible. There is a reason why they don't do that anymore. |
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Oct 23, 2024 14:52:52 GMT
Despite the performances so far, calling for Marti to go is just lunacy. There was enough last night to convince me he's going to turn things round and he's shown me enough since he's been here to prove he's got what it takes. All managers have bad spells. Trigger-happy firing has become the norm in football these days, but it rarely works. He's signed a new contract and he's staying. Bookmark this page and come back to it in three months and let's see where we are. Sorry Hubs but I just can't agree with you here. In the last seven games I haven't seen anything at all to suggest he can turn things round, and bar the Luton second half and Sheffield Utd second half in the league we have been utter garbage. I haven't seen anything to suggest he has a plan b at all, same setup every game. Of course I'll be happy to be proven wrong by him and in 3 months time if he's turned it round I'll hold my hands up, but I expect us to be adrift at the bottom by then. |
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Post by spongeparr on Oct 23, 2024 16:05:23 GMT
Despite the performances so far, calling for Marti to go is just lunacy. There was enough last night to convince me he's going to turn things round and he's shown me enough since he's been here to prove he's got what it takes. All managers have bad spells. Trigger-happy firing has become the norm in football these days, but it rarely works. He's signed a new contract and he's staying. Bookmark this page and come back to it in three months and let's see where we are. Sorry Hubs but I just can't agree with you here. In the last seven games I haven't seen anything at all to suggest he can turn things round, and bar the Luton second half and Sheffield Utd second half in the league we have been utter garbage. I haven't seen anything to suggest he has a plan b at all, same setup every game. Of course I'll be happy to be proven wrong by him and in 3 months time if he's turned it round I'll hold my hands up, but I expect us to be adrift at the bottom by then. Blimey, very bleak. He does mix it up though. We went 352 (or a version of it) vs Portsmouth. We started with 4 at the back, adapted to 5 at the back with the injury. We go a bit more direct to Frey. What does mixing it up actually mean? What does plan B mean if it isn't the above? |
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Post by hal9thou on Oct 23, 2024 17:34:11 GMT
Despite the performances so far, calling for Marti to go is just lunacy. There was enough last night to convince me he's going to turn things round and he's shown me enough since he's been here to prove he's got what it takes. All managers have bad spells. Trigger-happy firing has become the norm in football these days, but it rarely works. He's signed a new contract and he's staying. Bookmark this page and come back to it in three months and let's see where we are. Gotta say: for long periods last night, especially second half, we were second best. A bit lost. They snuffed out Kiki - which was entirely predictable- and we had no tactical answer. Marc Robbins, for all his current problems, outsmarted him. That does not bode well. re Trigger happy firing - it can work really well, and hanging on for too long can be a disaster. |
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Post by West Acton on Oct 23, 2024 20:39:24 GMT
Getting rid of Marti would be the equivalent of getting rid of warnock first time round. Fans calling for him to go quickly realised it was the wrong decision and he should have had longer.
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Post by jfrabbit on Oct 23, 2024 21:01:46 GMT
As said a week ago, not even a discussion.
He's a good manager going through a shit patch. Relax.
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 23, 2024 21:05:41 GMT
Getting rid of Marti would be the equivalent of getting rid of warnock first time round. Fans calling for him to go quickly realised it was the wrong decision and he should have had longer. Awful manager at the end. Relegation form. Didn’t give a shit once he’d decided to go and that’s cheating us. Two good half seasons, trouble was different seasons. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 23, 2024 22:37:26 GMT
As said a week ago, not even a discussion. He's a good manager going through a shit patch. Relax. Yeah, still inclined to agree with that but I would like to know how much input he had with the new signings - might tell us a lot. I do find myself already looking at the table though, wondering who we can get above with a couple of good wins and if they might fade around us - and that ain’t good this early. |
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Post by 1qprdk on Oct 23, 2024 23:05:46 GMT
Getting rid of Marti would be the equivalent of getting rid of warnock first time round. Fans calling for him to go quickly realised it was the wrong decision and he should have had longer. Awful manager at the end. Relegation form. Didn’t give a shit once he’d decided to go and that’s cheating us. Two good half seasons, trouble was different seasons. Que? Warburton? |
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 24, 2024 1:59:41 GMT
Getting rid of Marti would be the equivalent of getting rid of warnock first time round. Fans calling for him to go quickly realised it was the wrong decision and he should have had longer. Awful manager at the end. Relegation form. Didn’t give a shit once he’d decided to go and that’s cheating us. Two good half seasons, trouble was different seasons. Sorry, pissed. Last night away. 😂 Read it as Warburton. I’ll own it. |
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Post by hal9thou on Oct 24, 2024 9:33:19 GMT
Just to be clear: not one single person on here to my knowledge has specifically demanded his immediate departure. equally, that does not mean that he is the Messiah and should be immune from criticism.
The run of injuries to key players combined with shoehorning the new boys into the fire has predictably left us on our arse. However, as players come back and as the newcomers settle in I’m pretty sure we’ll improve.
One note of caution. Every year the striker front is an absolute shambles at LR and this time round is no exception. Yet again, January will come with this being an absolute priority. Given a fit squad the MF can just about hold it together, but there’s absolutely nothing up front apart from Frey, and I don’t think he’ll do the schedule.
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Post by Shania on Oct 24, 2024 9:47:14 GMT
Just to be clear: not one single person on here to my knowledge has specifically demanded his immediate departure. equally, that does not mean that he is the Messiah and should be immune from criticism. The run of injuries to key players combined with shoehorning the new boys into the fire has predictably left us on our arse. However, as players come back and as the newcomers settle in I’m pretty sure we’ll improve. One note of caution. Every year the striker front is an absolute shambles at LR and this time round is no exception. Yet again, January will calm with this being an absolute priority.: given a fit squad the MF can just about hold it together, but there’s absolutely nothing up front apart from Frey, and I don’t think he’ll do the schedule. Well put! This is how I should have worded my post on another thread a few minutes ago. This exactly.  |
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Post by hubble on Oct 24, 2024 10:03:34 GMT
Just to be clear: not one single person on here to my knowledge has specifically demanded his immediate departure. equally, that does not mean that he is the Messiah and should be immune from criticism. The run of injuries to key players combined with shoehorning the new boys into the fire has predictably left us on our arse. However, as players come back and as the newcomers settle in I’m pretty sure we’ll improve. One note of caution. Every year the striker front is an absolute shambles at LR and this time round is no exception. Yet again, January will calm with this being an absolute priority.: given a fit squad the MF can just about hold it together, but there’s absolutely nothing up front apart from Frey, and I don’t think he’ll do the schedule.
That's not quite true Hal:
Ginge, in this thread: "Please leave. Enough is enough." And Shania came very close in the match thread: "Bring back Neil Warnock. Not sure I mean it, but ...." and "If we lose tonight, I hope Cifuntes is off. Enough is enough."
Agree with the rest of what you posted.
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Post by Corbray on Oct 24, 2024 11:06:21 GMT
tbf though that's all heat in the moment stuff and not a fair reflection of those posters thoughts as they all recanted it later on.
we've all been guilty of thinking stuff like that throughout dire performances.
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Post by Bill on Oct 24, 2024 11:25:27 GMT
With this pile of shit we have signed dont think anyone could do any better.
So come Christmas Mr Nourry will have to think long and hard if he still here.
However we might be top of the table by then.
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Post by MattyRangers on Oct 24, 2024 12:07:14 GMT
With this pile of shit we have signed dont think anyone could do any better. So come Christmas Mr Nourry will have to think long and hard if he still here. However we might be top of the table by then.Only if you hold the newspaper upside down |
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Post by hal9thou on Oct 24, 2024 12:15:45 GMT
With this pile of shit we have signed dont think anyone could do any better. So come Christmas Mr Nourry will have to think long and hard if he still here. However we might be top of the table by then. Saito is a very decent little player with fight in him who gives 110%. What he doesn't always get is enough support from AMFs on the park. And then has Celar on the end of his supply line..... Nardi for me has been outstanding, made two late saves which helped salvage that point Tuesday night. All keepers have a mistake in them, but overall he's done good. The boy Morgan looks like he means business. It's the rest of them that are an issue, let's not tar them all with the same brush. |
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Post by hubble on Oct 24, 2024 14:54:46 GMT
Out of the new signings: Nardi: excellent; Morgan: fantastic; Saito: good; Varane: good (potentially v. good, IMHO); Morrison: Looked good, but what's hapened to him? Dembele: jury's out, started well, faded since; Madsen: WTAF? Good on paper, shite in reality (so far); Ashby: poor.
So in fact, not a pile of shit that we've signed by any stretch. I think the problem has been a combination of injuries to key players and trying to fit a whole load of new players into a system and league they're not familiar with. Plus the usual QPR sod's law luck.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Oct 24, 2024 15:04:50 GMT
Out of the new signings: Nardi: excellent; Morgan: fantastic; Saito: good; Varane: good (potentially v. good, IMHO); Morrison: Looked good, but what's hapened to him? Dembele: jury's out, started well, faded since; Madsen: WTAF? Good on paper, shite in reality (so far); Ashby: poor. So in fact, not a pile of shit that we've signed by any stretch. I think the problem has been a combination of injuries to key players and trying to fit a whole load of new players into a system and league they're not familiar with. Plus the usual QPR sod's law luck. Celar? Maybe not a "WTAF" but possibly a polite "oh dear so far"? Very early to say Morgan "fantastic" IMHO. Promising. Think Saito could be more than good - shame no option to buy there. Otherwise agree. |
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Post by hubble on Oct 24, 2024 15:13:23 GMT
Out of the new signings: Nardi: excellent; Morgan: fantastic; Saito: good; Varane: good (potentially v. good, IMHO); Morrison: Looked good, but what's hapened to him? Dembele: jury's out, started well, faded since; Madsen: WTAF? Good on paper, shite in reality (so far); Ashby: poor. So in fact, not a pile of shit that we've signed by any stretch. I think the problem has been a combination of injuries to key players and trying to fit a whole load of new players into a system and league they're not familiar with. Plus the usual QPR sod's law luck. Celar? Maybe not a "WTAF" but possibly a polite "oh dear so far"? Very early to say Morgan "fantastic" IMHO. Promising. Think Saito could be more than good - shame no option to buy there. Otherwise agree. Celar is so anonymous I forgot about him!
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Post by Bill on Oct 24, 2024 16:03:35 GMT
With this pile of shit we have signed dont think anyone could do any better. So come Christmas Mr Nourry will have to think long and hard if he still here. However we might be top of the table by then.Only if you hold the newspaper upside down 🤣🤣🤣 |
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Post by Bill on Oct 24, 2024 16:07:02 GMT
Out of the new signings: Nardi: excellent; Morgan: fantastic; Saito: good; Varane: good (potentially v. good, IMHO); Morrison: Looked good, but what's hapened to him? Dembele: jury's out, started well, faded since; Madsen: WTAF? Good on paper, shite in reality (so far); Ashby: poor. So in fact, not a pile of shit that we've signed by any stretch. I think the problem has been a combination of injuries to key players and trying to fit a whole load of new players into a system and league they're not familiar with. Plus the usual QPR sod's law luck. You part of our scouting team ? |
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Oct 24, 2024 19:32:11 GMT
Out of the new signings: Nardi: excellent; Morgan: fantastic; Saito: good; Varane: good (potentially v. good, IMHO); Morrison: Looked good, but what's hapened to him? Dembele: jury's out, started well, faded since; Madsen: WTAF? Good on paper, shite in reality (so far); Ashby: poor. So in fact, not a pile of shit that we've signed by any stretch. I think the problem has been a combination of injuries to key players and trying to fit a whole load of new players into a system and league they're not familiar with. Plus the usual QPR sod's law luck. Agree with all of that, but to add, I think another major error was not bringing in any Championship experience, especially in the middle of the park. Hayden would've been the perfect signing but wages were the issue. |
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Post by Rangers77 on Oct 25, 2024 15:34:13 GMT
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 25, 2024 17:24:43 GMT
One touch football for the last two passes to Haaland being the key |
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