Players

Yep and managers who get paid a kings ransom for failure or agents who suck the life out of clubs.

Add to that, soppy birds talking bollox over every game now.  Pile of shit.

Only go out of habit and my son who loves going. Other than that I don't think I'd bother. Genuinely. 

Last para and tradition.

I count myself lucky that I caught things when they were great but cursed that I had to witness football become what it has.

As soon as we move from Loftus Road that's me done with it all.

Just doesn’t have any feel good factor any more.

Everything is so depressing from the shit football to the shit owners, the shit seats in the ground, the shit decision making, the shit players and the shit atmosphere.

Yet we still go. Mental.

For me it's also the fact that to compete as we did we'd have to kill whatever is left of the soul of the club.

Would rather have us relegated a few times to the National League than 'compete' in the Premier League to be honest.

I see where you're coming from but I genuinely think we'd end up like Oldham Athletic.

I don't think we'd come back in any hurry, especially with the absolute idiots we have owning the club. 

To me it seems like the our players doesn't gel, because when it`s needed I can't see them playing for each other at all. 

The soul of the club was very much present until we embraced the rich boys quicker than a Hooker open her legs.

They killed the QPR we loved but the heart is faintly kept alive though we're braindead and in a coma.

There is a small, flickering chance we can save the soul but the final breath before we're declared medically dead is always around the corner.

Money is God now more than ever.
Look at me ive got this,ive got that.
Fine until the bubble bursts and the public realise they being connrd.

Us older folk are living in the past, seeing the game through rose tinted glasses. If u actually look back clearly game was dying. Violence, poor product, infrastructure etc. Not just football but in life it was a million miles from what we have today. Yes of course there’s downsides to today, but a lot more positives imo. The world can’t won’t stand still, u just got to grab what u can from it, adapt or die.

Since a form of human stood up and walked the earth, there has always been have and have nots! If u have your going to live it not hide it. And I don’t give a toss about politicians as they are the haves and always will be, nothing u me can do about it. And as for fighting for country, don’t see the relevance to thread but folk have fought and died for literally ever , how far u want to go back?. It’s what humans do , they want, they manipulate, they control, conquer and evolve. Just like the world around them they make. You just got to grab what u can while u can.

The grounds were falling apart but loved and cherished by most.

The game wasn't overrun by violence - most games passed without incident- media coverage made it seemed worse than it was but something had to be done; the elephant in the room - which disgracefully was never discussed at the inquiries- is that many of the Police mistakes made at Hillsborough were done so because they panicked due to previous behaviour of fans, especially Liverpool fans at Heysel.

However, all seater stadiums were designed to filter out the Working Class by pricing them out.

Standard of football is subjective but I, by far, get more satisfaction watching matches from before 2000 than anything from now and that's not just because of VAR and 20 minutes injury time. There is very little variation now with how teams play (build up from the back and trying to play tiki-taki) and the lack of competition due to the gulf between the have and have nots renders it more predictable than an episode of a soap opera.

With that last part in mind, go and look.at how many different teams won trophies in the 60s, 70s and 80s - and before to be fair - or at least finished runners up and then compare it to today.

At last, someone talking straight about Hillsborough. I have lots of Sheffield connections and I can assure you hanging around in the pubs with no ticket and rushing the gates at the last minute hoping the police would bottle it was a plan. True, the police were overwhelmingly to blame for letting them in but it never gets mentioned that 96 people who got there early with tickets would still be alive today if it wasn’t for the action of some of their own supporters. Why did it take years and millions to find out?

Cunts that then ran the game put the fans in cages. No cages, no deaths. Maybe some broken bones.