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Post by stainrodisalegend on Mar 2, 2024 11:54:03 GMT
Confirms what we’ve been saying about our “easy” Feb v “hard” March. But to be really nerdish about it you need to weigh the games differently as arguably with, say, three games to go you are likely to face an easier match against a team with nothing to play for than one 4th from bottom.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Mar 2, 2024 12:06:45 GMT
Been playing with my spreadsheet again... If Carling did league tables… Interesting, but as I see it you are projecting that teams will continue the form of the last six games for the rest of the season, but our next six look wildly harder than our next six. For our rivals it might be the other way round. Millwall have some very soft fixtures and respectfully think there is some wishful thinking that they will only get 6 more points all season. What I do find encouraging from your table is that Stoke look to have a tough run in to me and that - combined with their form and managerial uncertainty - suggests we are surely better placed than them as of this moment.
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Post by The General on Mar 2, 2024 12:49:43 GMT
Don’t care about sheets and forms
Its all about heart , passion and commitment
Provide those three and you will stay up
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Post by The General on Mar 2, 2024 12:50:58 GMT
We are a club that loses to the bottom three
But wins against the top 10
Its always been like that the Qpr way
Starting today
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Mar 2, 2024 17:24:23 GMT
thefishy.co.uk/formtable.php?table=2&tab=tab-overallIn the 6 game form table we are up to 5th in the league. Even in the 10 game form table we are 7th! Interesting though how many other "struggling" clubs are in decent form (none as good as us) and its the mid-table teams who are starting to drop like a stone.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Mar 2, 2024 17:34:33 GMT
Midweek Stoke away to Leeds and Brum away to an in-form Hull.
Even a draw against WBA could pull us slightly clear
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 2, 2024 17:35:11 GMT
We are a club that loses to the bottom three But wins against the top 10 Its always been like that the Qpr way Starting today …..you were saying…?
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Post by James1979 on Mar 2, 2024 17:48:38 GMT
Well definitely going to be over 50 needed. 54?
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Post by 2Loftus on Mar 2, 2024 19:20:14 GMT
As Stainrod commented - the extrapolated points/position is pretty meaningless really, just an indication based on form of the last 6 games, no weighting for home/away or difficulty of opponent. I feel enough of a nerd going this far...
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Post by West Acton on Mar 2, 2024 20:49:30 GMT
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Post by 1973ranger on Mar 2, 2024 21:22:03 GMT
Just keep playing as we are and the rest will take care of itself
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Mar 2, 2024 22:09:11 GMT
forgot even rotherham were ahead of us - we now 19 points clear of them
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Post by hubble on Mar 3, 2024 8:22:53 GMT
But also look at Norwich and Coventry from back then till now, where they are 7th and 9th respectively.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Mar 3, 2024 10:13:08 GMT
Well definitely going to be over 50 needed. 54? That is the one concern. Must admit I’m revising upwards the points needed. Someone posted the stat, think it was something like 51 points has been the highest ever total needed to stay up? Starting to look like one of those years. Massive credit to QPR, Huddersfield and Sheffield Wed for fighting back so strongly. But every time you think a Stoke or Millwall are done for, they get a couple of wins. The lower mid-table teams must be shitting the bed. Currently have my eye on Brum and Blackburn (who have slipped back to being shite) but tbh my relegation candidates change week by week, everybody down there fighting for their lives.
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Post by awin on Mar 3, 2024 10:18:03 GMT
Always fancied Plymouth to be caught up in the bottom 4 at the end of the season.
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Post by acricketer on Mar 3, 2024 11:28:17 GMT
Always fancied Plymouth to be caught up in the bottom 4 at the end of the season. Yet their 10 game form is better than ours.
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 3, 2024 11:48:08 GMT
Well definitely going to be over 50 needed. 54? That is the one concern. Must admit I’m revising upwards the points needed. Someone posted the stat, think it was something like 51 points has been the highest ever total needed to stay up? Starting to look like one of those years. Massive credit to QPR, Huddersfield and Sheffield Wed for fighting back so strongly. But every time you think a Stoke or Millwall are done for, they get a couple of wins. The lower mid-table teams must be shitting the bed. Currently have my eye on Brum and Blackburn (who have slipped back to being shite) but tbh my relegation candidates change week by week, everybody down there fighting for their lives. I posted 50 because so many teams were/are involved. Definitely not a typical season.
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Post by James1979 on Mar 3, 2024 11:57:30 GMT
That is the one concern. Must admit I’m revising upwards the points needed. Someone posted the stat, think it was something like 51 points has been the highest ever total needed to stay up? Starting to look like one of those years. Massive credit to QPR, Huddersfield and Sheffield Wed for fighting back so strongly. But every time you think a Stoke or Millwall are done for, they get a couple of wins. The lower mid-table teams must be shitting the bed. Currently have my eye on Brum and Blackburn (who have slipped back to being shite) but tbh my relegation candidates change week by week, everybody down there fighting for their lives. I posted 50 because so many teams were/are involved. Definitely not a typical season. I thought 50 a couple of games back but everyone seems to keep winning. Now it’s 12 from 11 games to get to 50. I think that’s a must!
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Post by West Acton on Mar 3, 2024 11:58:29 GMT
Blackburn went down 51 point 16/17
Peterborough 54 points 12/13
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Post by jfrabbit on Mar 4, 2024 0:58:13 GMT
Other results the last two weeks have been a right pain but all we can do is do our bit and I think we’ll be ok.
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Post by 2Loftus on Mar 4, 2024 9:55:07 GMT
Other results the last two weeks have been a right pain but all we can do is do our bit and I think we’ll be ok. Interesting illustration of just that point...
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Post by hubble on Mar 4, 2024 10:48:40 GMT
Always fancied Plymouth to be caught up in the bottom 4 at the end of the season. Yet their 10 game form is better than ours.
Argyle are 15th on last ten games, we are 7th.
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Post by acricketer on Mar 4, 2024 11:36:24 GMT
Yet their 10 game form is better than ours.
Argyle are 15th on last ten games, we are 7th.
I am an idiot! I was looking at Preston!
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Mar 4, 2024 12:01:26 GMT
Other results the last two weeks have been a right pain but all we can do is do our bit and I think we’ll be ok. Interesting illustration of just that point... Thats quite scary. So unless something changes dramatically you could see it needing a record points total to stay up. Changes week to week but as things stand you could see 8, even 10 clubs being fearful right up to the last few games. This suggests that all bar the very top clubs are much of a muchness. Indeed, arguably now easier to play Watford, Boro, Sunderland etc than Wed, Huddersfield or ourselves.
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Post by West Acton on Mar 4, 2024 12:19:32 GMT
Wonder is there is a club who think they are safe who could just plummet like Millwall few seasons back. Watford, Bristol city or Middlesbrough??
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Mar 4, 2024 12:51:02 GMT
Wonder is there is a club who think they are safe who could just plummet like Millwall few seasons back. Watford, Bristol city or Middlesbrough?? All on terrible runs. Plymouth also looked safe but now have four defeats in six
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Post by 2Loftus on Mar 4, 2024 14:41:17 GMT
Wonder is there is a club who think they are safe who could just plummet like Millwall few seasons back. Watford, Bristol city or Middlesbrough?? All on terrible runs. Plymouth also looked safe but now have four defeats in six On the (non-scientific) form guide over the last 6 games, Blackburn and Plymouth would go down with Rotherham…
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 4, 2024 17:37:11 GMT
Wonder is there is a club who think they are safe who could just plummet like Millwall few seasons back. Watford, Bristol city or Middlesbrough?? Watford would be funny
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Post by hal9thou on Mar 4, 2024 17:46:56 GMT
Interesting though how many other "struggling" clubs are in decent form (none as good as us) and its the mid-table teams who are starting to drop like a stone. My concern is Sheffield and Huddersfield seem in decent form too Not too bothered by that because there are some very poor sides sliding into the mix. Like I said could be that two who were bottom three at Xmas actually survive.
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Post by 2Loftus on Mar 7, 2024 11:09:44 GMT
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