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Post by stainrodisalegend on Apr 3, 2024 20:43:51 GMT
Hi Loftus - when you say 59 points are needed does that factor in that a lot of teams below us have to play each other? On your projections noticeable that we already have enough points. No, nothing that clever… If Huddersfield win all their remaining 6 games, they’ll have 58 points. m Understandable that’s fine Loftus - but in reality the points needed is going to be way lower. So even if Huddersfield start playing like Leeds, when they pay Birmingham they can’t both win… |
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Post by 2Loftus on Apr 3, 2024 21:50:21 GMT
No, nothing that clever… If Huddersfield win all their remaining 6 games, they’ll have 58 points. m Understandable that’s fine Loftus - but in reality the points needed is going to be way lower. So even if Huddersfield start playing like Leeds, when they pay Birmingham they can’t both win… Absolutely, just posting the number of points to mathematically guarantee survival after each series of matches. Of course, that will reduce after each set of results  |
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Post by 1qprdk on Apr 3, 2024 22:35:39 GMT
Hi Loftus - when you say 59 points are needed does that factor in that a lot of teams below us have to play each other? On your projections noticeable that we already have enough points. No, nothing that clever… If Huddersfield win all their remaining 6 games, they’ll have 58 points. Well if Huddersfield win their remaining 6 games they will be safe with 58 points, because they'll have beaten Birmingham, who can only reach 57 by winning their other 5 games. So mathematically 58 is enough without GD, given the remaining games. 😉 |
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Post by 2Loftus on Apr 4, 2024 9:35:14 GMT
No, nothing that clever… If Huddersfield win all their remaining 6 games, they’ll have 58 points. Well if Huddersfield win their remaining 6 games they will be safe with 58 points, because they'll have beaten Birmingham, who can only reach 57 by winning their other 5 games. So mathematically 58 is enough without GD, given the remaining games. 😉 Haha, quite right. Were you the class swot!?  |
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Post by 1qprdk on Apr 4, 2024 15:47:00 GMT
Well if Huddersfield win their remaining 6 games they will be safe with 58 points, because they'll have beaten Birmingham, who can only reach 57 by winning their other 5 games. So mathematically 58 is enough without GD, given the remaining games. 😉 Haha, quite right. Were you the class swot!?No, quite the opposite. I was lazy as fuck, just naturally gifted 🤣 If I'd been a footballer, I'd be like Taarabt, Ravel Morrison, or maybe Taylor Richards. I really am a fucking waster 😭😱🫡 |
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Post by 2Loftus on Apr 7, 2024 18:19:48 GMT
 [EDIT] Updated extrapolated points totals to reflect 5 games left pointed out by croydoncaptainjack |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Apr 7, 2024 23:12:10 GMT
There's only 5 games left mate so that will have given everyone slightly more points.
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Post by 1qprdk on Apr 8, 2024 6:20:12 GMT
Same applies as above. Given the games remaining 56 or 55 with better gd is enough. For Birmingham to reach 57 they would have to beat Huddersfield, who can then only reach 55.
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Post by itsonlyagame on Apr 8, 2024 7:43:01 GMT
This is starting to become like Liz Truss’s budget😆
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Post by 2Loftus on Apr 8, 2024 10:41:42 GMT
My maths teacher always said, "Show your workings..." So, theoretical maximum points available to Huddersfield, Sheffield Wednesday and Birmingham are: A) Huddersfield and Sheff Weds win all remaining games - Birmingham lose only to Huddersfield Huddersfield: 58 Sheff Wed: 57 Birmingham: 54 Rotherham [relegated] ------------- B) Birmingham and Sheff Weds win all remaining games, Huddersfield lose only to Birmingham Birmingham: 57 Sheff Wed: 57 Huddersfield: 55 Rotherham [relegated] ...so, to my (possibly cock-eyed) thinking, my sums are right - the number of points required to mathematically guarantee survival with five matches left are 58, or 57 with a better goal difference than the team finishing third bottom?? Feel free to mark my homework |
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Post by 1qprdk on Apr 8, 2024 11:40:07 GMT
Yes. You are right. Apparently I went into lazy mode this time and forgot Wednesday won.
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Post by Timmy Doc on Apr 8, 2024 18:02:48 GMT
Sure, next season 136 points is required to win the league. Win 45 and draw one game against the second best team.
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Post by 2Loftus on Apr 11, 2024 8:23:00 GMT
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Apr 11, 2024 8:36:07 GMT
Thanks Loftus. Hopefully our fans are breathing a little easier after last night. The draw at Plymouth isn't looking like such a bad result. I know I will be accused of complacency (and I know Marti needs to be singing a VERY different message to the players) but in reality the teams staring at relegation right now are the teams getting thumped 5-0 or losing at home to Cardiff. Even with some ropy performances/ results (Boro, Sheff Wed) our form since the end of the transfer window has been more like play off contenders than relegation candidates. Our matches are going to be very tight for sure because we don't have a goal scorer but strongly believe we can grind out at least a couple of draws - and for us to go down too many teams would have to put on an unbelievable burst of form.
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Post by 1qprdk on Apr 11, 2024 10:17:02 GMT
If we lose our last 4 games anything can happen. Need another win or couple of draws, before we're safe, imo.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Apr 11, 2024 11:02:17 GMT
If we lose our last 4 games anything can happen. Need another win or couple of draws, before we're safe, imo. The sky might fall in tomorrow but even if we don't win another point Brum for eg would have to average 2 points per game till the end of the season to overtake us. They have currently won only one of their last 10 and their own manager says they are "sleepwalking to disaster". |
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Post by 2Loftus on Apr 11, 2024 11:21:14 GMT
Some BIG 6-pointers in the run-in...
Sheffield Wednesday vs Stoke City
Stoke City vs Plymouth Argyle
Blackburn Rovers vs Sheffield Wednesday
Huddersfield Town vs Birmingham City (mega, could well decide the fate of one of these two!)
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Post by hal9thou on Apr 11, 2024 11:41:34 GMT
Forget the permutations. They are beyond our control and therefore don't matter.
What does matter is that we turn up on and off the park for the remaining games. If we do that, we are good enough to stay up.
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Post by MattyRangers on Apr 11, 2024 11:48:30 GMT
Forget the permutations. They are beyond our control and therefore don't matter. What does matter is that we turn up on and off the park for the remaining games. If we do that, we are good enough to stay up. Dont disagree, but that mindset would make for a fucking boring & quiet forum wouldn't it lol |
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Post by 1qprdk on Apr 11, 2024 11:52:27 GMT
If we lose our last 4 games anything can happen. Need another win or couple of draws, before we're safe, imo. The sky might fall in tomorrow but even if we don't win another point Brum for eg would have to average 2 points per game till the end of the season to overtake us. They have currently won only one of their last 10 and their own manager says they are "sleepwalking to disaster". No they don't. They just need 5 points in 4 games if we lose our 4. Then its GD. That’s 1.25 ppg. Not impossible. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 11, 2024 12:03:37 GMT
The sky might fall in tomorrow  |
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Post by hubble on Apr 11, 2024 12:22:39 GMT
By hook or by crook, we're gonna stay up!!!
Edit: why is the image I've posted (that appears in the preview), removed when I save changes? By Toutatis???!!!
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Post by 2Loftus on Apr 11, 2024 13:39:13 GMT
By hook or by crook, we're gonna stay up!!!
Edit: why is the image I've posted (that appears in the preview), removed when I save changes? By Toutatis???!!!
What, you think Paladini might be back...?? |
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Post by acricketer on Apr 11, 2024 15:05:17 GMT
47 is enough.
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Post by hubble on Apr 11, 2024 15:12:51 GMT
By hook or by crook, we're gonna stay up!!!
Edit: why is the image I've posted (that appears in the preview), removed when I save changes? By Toutatis???!!!
What, you think Paladini might be back...?? Well, this is Rangers....
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Apr 11, 2024 15:40:35 GMT
2Loftus. A couple of those Huddersfield fixtures have the wrong h/a. They are away to Bristol Saturday (very tough) and home to Brum in that six pointer.
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Post by itsonlyagame on Apr 11, 2024 16:04:32 GMT
Agree. Obviously the team need to assume it won’t be. Definitely won’t be more than 48. |
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Post by The General on Apr 11, 2024 19:57:52 GMT
Are we saying 47 is enough
Is this correct or not ?
So I can sleep tonight and shave 🤣
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Post by acricketer on Apr 11, 2024 20:26:42 GMT
Are we saying 47 is enough Is this correct or not ? So I can sleep tonight and shave 🤣 Only me! |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Apr 12, 2024 8:55:43 GMT
I hope you are right cricketer.
Looking at those fixtures Blackburn look in serious trouble. Sheff Wed at home a huge game for them. Hopefully a draw and the only point they get out of 12.
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