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Post by jfrabbit on Feb 15, 2024 17:13:10 GMT
Absolutely love Marti, one of THE only lights in a very dark season but, Warnock was the man to get us out of the mess to then bring Marti in for pre season. It was so clear. Jimmy, can you imagine the teacups and orange-peels flying across the dressing room had Neil got in there? Wouldn't have been pretty but reckon it would have worked. Hindsight is wonderful but many of us called for it at the time. And yes, Marti would have been ideal for the pre-season. Would have been fireworks but the man knows how to get teams adapted to certain situations. We've brought MC into a league he knows fuck all about to work in with a piss poor, shitty, fragile squad. Madness. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 15, 2024 17:31:53 GMT
More and more it should have been Colin, with Marti next summer.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Feb 15, 2024 17:32:33 GMT
For me the most depressing thing about these games is we sort of saunter out of the traps. You sensed on here and talking to other Rs fans we were all so pumped for this game. We as fans all got how crucial it was. You are away to the team in the second worst form in the league. You yourselves are - ironic to say it now - actually in really good form with two wins and two draws out of your last four games. You know (as Andy Sinton commented) their fan base is really restless. So surely you really go for it the first 20 minutes, put them under massive pressure. But other than that one burst from Paul Smith in the first couple of minutes and tbf two or three powerful runs from Armstrong, we just didn't push. We were so passive. So gradually they grew in confidence. I'm a big fan of Marti, but surely pre-match was the moment for a bit of Churchililan "we will fight them on the beaches, we will never surrender" stuff. But either that wasn't the message or the players just froze. Again. As they always seem to when they really need to step up. Its really hard to know from the outside whether its a lack of commitment and fight or whether they are just paralysed by lack of confidence. Either way it seems a problem deeper than football coaching or team selection (suspect tho' I thought that was). Do we employ a psychologist? Like England did under Southgate? Or is the mentality simply too weak to improve he mindset? Get Eileen Drury in  I'd get Darren Brown in to hypnotise them into thinking they are half decent players at this rate... |
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Post by jfrabbit on Feb 15, 2024 17:44:08 GMT
Get Eileen Drury in I'd get Darren Brown in to hypnotise them into thinking they are half decent players at this rate... Fuck that, I'd give him a start Saturday |
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Post by 2Loftus on Feb 15, 2024 23:35:58 GMT
Worried, but no doom and gloom just yet.
Only needs ONE team to plummet faster than we’re falling.
At the moment Millwall are doing their best to do just that.
Can we win FOUR more points than them by the end of the season?
I think we can.
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 16, 2024 8:02:34 GMT
Worried, but no doom and gloom just yet. Only needs ONE team to plummet faster than we’re falling. At the moment Millwall are doing their best to do just that. Can we win FOUR more points than them by the end of the season? I think we can. Like that thinking but Wednesday will be thinking same. Rotherham probably doomed but there are two places to worry about. |
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Post by West Acton on Feb 16, 2024 8:33:37 GMT
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Post by itsonlyagame on Feb 16, 2024 8:39:49 GMT
Imagine if it goes down to the final day.
With their track record of performing under pressure they’d probably be too scared to board the fucking bus to Coventry.
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Post by West Acton on Feb 16, 2024 9:13:40 GMT
If we’re going to pull this off we’re going to have to improve our win rate at home
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Post by 1973ranger on Feb 16, 2024 9:23:52 GMT
Can see us somehow winning 2-1 or 3-1 tomorrow and drawing with Rotherham next week. I do not think we have players with the minerals to get us out of this. Regardless of where are next season I would like to see every player who played under Warburton and Beale moved on as they would have let at least 3 managers down and in MW case four. I did not like these players 2 years ago and less so now. Build the team around armstrong and maximise his pace and power. Armstrong with development is a massive asset in this day and age where forwards are sold for bundles.
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 16, 2024 9:48:29 GMT
Only scored more than 2 ONCE in a season and a half - that’s dreadful. |
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Post by West Acton on Feb 16, 2024 10:06:17 GMT
Only scored more than 2 ONCE in a season and a half - that’s dreadful. are we surprised given forward options. Muscles donkey and Kelman don’t frighten defences. |
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Post by West Acton on Feb 16, 2024 10:12:25 GMT
Assuming we do what we need to at home against Rotherham, Wednesday and Birmingham we’re probably going need try find two more wins or a win and couple draws and that will leave it very tight. Prob going need pick up one away win minimum.
4 wins and two draws is 14 points giving total of 43 points which would normally keep you up but only just but I fear could be higher then that this year.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Feb 16, 2024 10:49:11 GMT
Haven't given up yet, but no denying losing to Stoke a real setback - I expected a draw. The candidates to go down is narrowing. Blackburn probably just about safe, also doubt Brum will go down now. My main hope is Millwall who are dropping like a stone. And a little bit Swansea. We are shit, but so are a lot of other teams. One win can suddenly make things look very different.
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Post by Rangers77 on Feb 16, 2024 12:27:26 GMT
If we’re going to pull this off we’re going to have to improve our win rate at home It's 2012 again. We have to win every home game. |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Feb 16, 2024 12:32:34 GMT
Only scored more than 2 ONCE in a season and a half - that’s dreadful. Yes, and I missed that game  |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 16, 2024 12:51:49 GMT
If stay up, you away boys will like Everton’s ground next season, a bit out but not as far as is now. Take about 20 mins walk to mathew street😀
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Post by Bill on Feb 16, 2024 13:39:32 GMT
Think we need 48 to be sure so 5 wins and 3 draws should do it.
Think it will go to last game at Coventry,thought this for a while now.
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Post by West Acton on Feb 16, 2024 13:54:38 GMT
I hope it’s not as high as that Bill as I dont think we have a chance in hell of accumulating that amount of points ☹️
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 16, 2024 14:13:44 GMT
Think we need 48 to be sure so 5 wins and 3 draws should do it. Think it will go to last game at Coventry,thought this for a while now. Agree Bill, I said earlier aim for 50 but I also agree with Westy, it’s going to be really hard now. When I said 50 I thought we’d be 7-9 points further on by now. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 16, 2024 14:15:08 GMT
Will be a good day out at Coventry😁
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Post by jfrabbit on Feb 16, 2024 14:19:31 GMT
Will be a good day out at Coventry😁 Lets go fancy dress. Might go as clowns to replicate our owners and board |
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Post by West Acton on Feb 16, 2024 15:03:11 GMT
Think we need 48 to be sure so 5 wins and 3 draws should do it. Think it will go to last game at Coventry,thought this for a while now. Agree Bill, I said earlier aim for 50 but I also agree with Westy, it’s going to be really hard now. When I said 50 I thought we’d be 7-9 points further on by now. for it to be 50 Millwall will need to win virtually half their games be amazed if it’s that high. Think got look to get 44 minimum as that keeps you up most seasons and hope it’s the same this. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 16, 2024 15:38:09 GMT
Will be a good day out at Coventry😁 Lets go fancy dress. Might go as clowns to replicate our owners and board Not sure how serious you are being😂but that is actually a great idea😂 |
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Post by coneysboots on Feb 16, 2024 15:42:07 GMT
Remember back in 1996 we were away at Coventry, and lost 1-0. That effectively relegated us baring a few unlikely results. We took a fair few, but we were pretty resigned to it beforehand. Let's hope history doesn't repeat itself.
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Post by Shania on Feb 16, 2024 15:55:48 GMT
When all matches have been played we need one point more than the three teams below us.
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Post by West Acton on Feb 16, 2024 16:02:29 GMT
Last two games Leeds and Coventry sides who might need something or might be resting players for play offs.
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Post by jfrabbit on Feb 16, 2024 16:17:03 GMT
Lets go fancy dress. Might go as clowns to replicate our owners and board Not sure how serious you are being😂but that is actually a great idea😂 VERY serious! |
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Post by 2Loftus on Feb 16, 2024 16:58:55 GMT
Last two games Leeds and Coventry sides who might need something or might be resting players for play offs. Let's hope the latter. Or, better still, we're already safe by then... |
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Post by Bill on Feb 16, 2024 22:55:56 GMT
Last two games Leeds and Coventry sides who might need something or might be resting players for play offs. Let's hope the latter. Or, better still, we're already safe by then... One sentence. "We never do things the easy way" |
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