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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2019 21:45:46 GMT
Warburton needs to take a lot of the blame. How can he let Manning play poorly match after match and still not taken off? I can`t believe it. What about the centre halves? Manning is a stop gap left back who is being exposed, What is the defence for Leistner, Barbet and to a lesser degree Hall all season? |
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Post by Shania on Oct 28, 2019 21:47:35 GMT
Warburton needs to take a lot of the blame. How can he let Manning play poorly match after match and still not taken off? I can`t believe it. Why the hell have you only been blaming Manning, a guy that's playing out of position and is not a defender, when the entire defence is to blame? I pointed out Leinstner earlier in the thread. |
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Post by The General on Oct 28, 2019 21:48:13 GMT
Central Defenders shocking so far apart all the time
Every time they came. Forward I thought they would score
Sort out the fucking defence for fucks sake I'm. So fucked off with it now
Cameron was totally shit he needs benching ASAP
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Post by James1979 on Oct 28, 2019 21:48:59 GMT
Let's not dress this up we were shit Defence is totally awful Toothless up front with Nacki on his own Could have gone second dire dire performance End Of story Goalkeeper saved it being 5 The defence is crap but look at chances we are giving away. Josh scowen has 1 good game and then 5 rubbish ones. Midfield is awful. Chair and scowen must go. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2019 21:49:56 GMT
Central Defenders shocking so far apart all the time Every time they came. Forward I thought they would score Sort out the fucking defence for fucks sake I'm. So fucked off with it now Cameron was totally shit he needs benching ASAP Same all season regardless of who plays there. Shockingly bad defending week after week. How the fuck can we make the same mistakes every bloody game. |
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Post by The General on Oct 28, 2019 21:50:37 GMT
Hate losing to Brentford so much it hurts
Piss poor tonight awful performance
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Post by Shania on Oct 28, 2019 21:50:40 GMT
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Post by hal9thou on Oct 28, 2019 21:51:04 GMT
I don't blame the defence players. They're bang average for the most part.
I 100% blame Warburton, because proper coaching makes a massive difference even to average players at the back. That hasn't been happening. QED.
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 28, 2019 21:52:02 GMT
Every time they came. Forward I thought they would score Sort out the fucking defence for fucks sake I'm. So fucked off with it now Shit game. The only thing that has cheered me up tonight is General's incredible grammar! 😂 |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2019 21:52:54 GMT
Well if you criticise Manning every game which is fine what about the centre halves as not one seems to be getting flak. |
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Post by The General on Oct 28, 2019 21:53:13 GMT
They will be going on about this for months bees fans
One up front does not work for us ever with Nakki playing alone
Going to bed
Wankers
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Post by The General on Oct 28, 2019 21:54:26 GMT
Yeah sorry Stan such a missed opportunity they should have run through walls tonight to win this game
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Oct 28, 2019 21:54:50 GMT
Pretty surprised there hasn't been a single Warby Out post anywhere yet.
Progress lads.
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Post by Shania on Oct 28, 2019 21:55:59 GMT
Well if you criticise Manning every game which is fine what about the centre halves as not one seems to be getting flak.BNahh, that`s not true, is it really? |
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Post by Shania on Oct 28, 2019 21:56:57 GMT
Pretty surprised there hasn't been a single Warby Out post anywhere yet. Progress lads. And lasses. |
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Post by hal9thou on Oct 28, 2019 22:00:08 GMT
I have noticed that for all the pretty football - and the shocking defence - there are too many times when players go missing. We've been bullied a few times this season as well.
When the going gets tuff we're happy to take it where the sun dont shine. If the gaffer can't get em up for a local derby thats a piss poor sign.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2019 22:01:06 GMT
Manning rightly gets flak when mistakes are being made but not as much being aimed at Leistner who defensively has been shit for an experienced centre back so far.
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Post by Rangers77 on Oct 28, 2019 22:02:22 GMT
I have noticed that for all the pretty football - and the shocking defence - there are too many times when players go missing. We've been bullied a few times this season as well. When the going gets tuff we're happy to take it where the sun dont shine. If the gaffer can't get em up for a local derby thats a piss poor sign. This. Lightweight too often. It was like Brentford had an extra man. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2019 22:04:42 GMT
I have noticed that for all the pretty football - and the shocking defence - there are too many times when players go missing. We've been bullied a few times this season as well. When the going gets tuff we're happy to take it where the sun dont shine. If the gaffer can't get em up for a local derby thats a piss poor sign. This. Lightweight too often. It was like Brentford had an extra man. Not mobile enough in midfield with Scowen and Cameron. Would definitely have Ball back in and Amos and perhaps even Smith if fit in the middle of the park. |
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Post by Shania on Oct 28, 2019 22:12:32 GMT
A fit Amos alongside Ball would probably have been a good combination tonight. Not sure. Leeds next with hugill available for selection again!!
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Post by Tarbie on Oct 28, 2019 22:14:12 GMT
This. Lightweight too often. It was like Brentford had an extra man. Not mobile enough in midfield with Scowen and Cameron. Would definitely have Ball back in and Amos and perhaps even Smith if fit in the middle of the park. I'd agree with that. I thought Scowen was poor again tonight. Ball is a much better option next to Cameron. So much tidier on the ball. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 28, 2019 22:17:30 GMT
Scowen and Cameron is just the wrong partnership. Think that's pretty obvious now!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2019 22:27:05 GMT
Scowen and Cameron is just the wrong partnership. Think that's pretty obvious now! No creativity or legs between them which was seriously shown up tonight. |
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Post by West Acton on Oct 28, 2019 22:35:34 GMT
This. Lightweight too often. It was like Brentford had an extra man. Not mobile enough in midfield with Scowen and Cameron. Would definitely have Ball back in and Amos and perhaps even Smith if fit in the middle of the park. you see the game just like me Scowen and Cameron can’t play at the Pace we need too in defence or attack. Both need two or three touches before giving ball away. Swansea, baggies and Brentford have bullied and out played us in the middle of the park because they have mobile players who impose themselves who can also play one touch. Sawyers for baggies, mbeumo and da Silva kept ball moving tonight where as our CM can’t control it to start with then after it bobbling around they lose it Matt Smith could be our version of them as he’s got quick feet so I would play him and Amos going forwards or Ball. All light years ahead of Scowen Chair has not taken his chance and he’s had extended run so I would drop him, push manning further up and give Wallace a go LB This won’t be popular either but Hall has been part of a failing defence going back to Ned and every partner since. He’s not the answer at CB he’s as guilty as others making mistakes but never really gets criticised Was chatting Wycombe on way home and said perhaps the good start has back fired on us as it’s raised expectations unfairly. This side, although it could have gone second, is not and will not be a top two side. Think season will level out now. Someone said losing would be exciting so no need worry about defence, well was that exciting tonight??? |
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Post by West Acton on Oct 28, 2019 22:37:05 GMT
Scowen and Cameron is just the wrong partnership. Think that's pretty obvious now! in hindsight Cameron has been a poor buy. Not close to the player we saw on loan. Feels like he’s with us to enjoy the London lifestyle |
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 28, 2019 22:42:13 GMT
Wests, think he'd be better alongside Ball or Amos. Important to find the right partnerships. Overall was better last season though.
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Post by West Acton on Oct 28, 2019 22:46:23 GMT
I don’t think he looks interested Stan. Dont put his foot in ever, looks lazy too. He’s totally coasting
Compare his efforts to what Dom Ball has produced. Chalk and cheese. One player wants to play and the other is turning up playing on reputation
I might be wrong but that’s what I’m seeing when I see Cameron lumbering about
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2019 22:47:22 GMT
Not mobile enough in midfield with Scowen and Cameron. Would definitely have Ball back in and Amos and perhaps even Smith if fit in the middle of the park. you see the game just like me Scowen and Cameron can’t play at the Pace we need too in defence or attack. Both need two or three touches before giving ball away. Swansea, baggies and Brentford have bullied and out played us in the middle of the park because they have mobile players who impose themselves who can also play one touch. Sawyers for baggies, mbeumo and da Silva kept ball moving tonight where as our CM can’t control it to start with then after it bobbling around they lose it Matt Smith could be our version of them as he’s got quick feet so I would play him and Amos going forwards or Ball. All light years ahead of Scowen Chair has not taken his chance and he’s had extended run so I would drop him, push manning further up and give Wallace a go LB This won’t be popular either but Hall has been part of a failing defence going back to Ned and every partner since. He’s not the answer at CB he’s as guilty as others making mistakes but never really gets criticised Was chatting Wycombe on way home and said perhaps the good start has back fired on us as it’s raised expectations unfairly. This side, although it could have gone second, is not and will not be a top two side. Think season will level out now. Someone said losing would be exciting so no need worry about defence, well was that exciting tonight??? Chair is not having an impact and a rest will do him good as he is a very young boy who has done ok so far. Smith Amos and Ball would be a far better footballing option than Scowen and Cameron it would also mean better protection for a very weak defensive line. |
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Post by Rangers77 on Oct 28, 2019 22:54:30 GMT
Not mobile enough in midfield with Scowen and Cameron. Would definitely have Ball back in and Amos and perhaps even Smith if fit in the middle of the park. you see the game just like me Scowen and Cameron can’t play at the Pace we need too in defence or attack. Both need two or three touches before giving ball away. Swansea, baggies and Brentford have bullied and out played us in the middle of the park because they have mobile players who impose themselves who can also play one touch. Sawyers for baggies, mbeumo and da Silva kept ball moving tonight where as our CM can’t control it to start with then after it bobbling around they lose it Matt Smith could be our version of them as he’s got quick feet so I would play him and Amos going forwards or Ball. All light years ahead of Scowen Chair has not taken his chance and he’s had extended run so I would drop him, push manning further up and give Wallace a go LB This won’t be popular either but Hall has been part of a failing defence going back to Ned and every partner since. He’s not the answer at CB he’s as guilty as others making mistakes but never really gets criticised Was chatting Wycombe on way home and said perhaps the good start has back fired on us as it’s raised expectations unfairly. This side, although it could have gone second, is not and will not be a top two side. Think season will level out now. Someone said losing would be exciting so no need worry about defence, well was that exciting tonight??? Great post, West. Agree with every word. Bar Hall stuff. Lol. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 29, 2019 8:22:23 GMT
We're going 2nd lads... :-) You were saying? I know. It's all that damn ref's fault! 😫 |
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