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Jan 19, 2020 15:41:50 GMT
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Post by Timmy Doc on Jan 19, 2020 15:41:50 GMT
We will sell Eze and BOS, lose Amos and Wells and won't be able to sign anywhere near as good players as those are. The future will be a huge disappointing if we won't go up this season. It's never linear.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 19, 2020 15:48:01 GMT
Tommy is a truth sayer
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Post by 1qprdk on Jan 19, 2020 16:02:07 GMT
Shania is a punk rocker
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 19, 2020 16:12:35 GMT
Shania is a godless and on a pedestal of beauty
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Post by Rangers77 on Jan 19, 2020 17:06:15 GMT
Get into the play offs, win at Wembley, take the money, then refuse to go up. Who wants a loads mercenaries arriving at our club?
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 19, 2020 17:18:43 GMT
We're not ready to go up. I'd rather we keep improving the squad, developing young players like we are doing, and then have a proper tilt in a couple of seasons time. What's the rush? Oh yeah, the money. Well, I think we'll be ok until we are ready to have a proper go. I'd rather we went up and stayed up. Being embarrassed in the prem is not an attractive proposition. Win matches you go up, you can't play to not go up or go up when you're ready. Worry about being good enough when you get there.
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Post by Bill on Jan 19, 2020 17:32:52 GMT
Really think we should go all out this season as next season will probably have Norwich,Villa and maybe Bournemouth to contend with and promotion will become harder and harder.[br
]This season is proving to be a fairly mediocre season everybody beating each other and no really outstanding teams,thus providing an outstanding opportunity.
I am not really interested in the prem but the cash will ensure the future of our club and if managed properly in terms of player recruitment who knows what could happen
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 19, 2020 17:46:01 GMT
You should go all out EVERY season. Professional club with paying punters. That's the idea.
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Post by Bill on Jan 19, 2020 17:49:34 GMT
Yes i agree but you know we have not done so recently.MW,s brief this season keep us up for example.
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 19, 2020 17:56:21 GMT
Not trying and not being good enough are entirely different. If I thought we weren't trying I wouldn't come.
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Jan 19, 2020 17:59:51 GMT
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Post by Bill on Jan 19, 2020 17:59:51 GMT
So you think we were trying against Hull at home ?
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Jan 19, 2020 18:06:04 GMT
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 19, 2020 18:06:04 GMT
Yes Bill, sometimes we are just crap, heads go down. They don't choose games to be shit in. Leeds were pretty shit, no way did they plan to be.
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 19, 2020 18:22:35 GMT
We're not ready to go up. I'd rather we keep improving the squad, developing young players like we are doing, and then have a proper tilt in a couple of seasons time. What's the rush? Oh yeah, the money. Well, I think we'll be ok until we are ready to have a proper go. I'd rather we went up and stayed up. Being embarrassed in the prem is not an attractive proposition. I reckon the chances of us going up would be between 33s and 50s, and I hate us talking about play offs for reasons given previously. However, the money is so disproportionate these days that if we did end up making it, the boards view of what constitutes a selling club would be subject to review. The Eze's and BOS's of this world might well be removed from the shop window. I think we've learned from previous promotions to the extent that we wouldn't do another supermarket dash, but I can see us retaining the talent. in reality, I don't think we have the composure to make it even if we continue to defend like we did yesterday and the other contenders fuck up on a regular basis. I just feel we're a little too accident prone. But if we oblige, I'll take it all day long.
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Jan 19, 2020 18:55:50 GMT
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Post by West Acton on Jan 19, 2020 18:55:50 GMT
Really think we should go all out this season as next season will probably have Norwich,Villa and maybe Bournemouth to contend with and promotion will become harder and harder.[br ]This season is proving to be a fairly mediocre season everybody beating each other and no really outstanding teams,thus providing an outstanding opportunity. I am not really interested in the prem but the cash will ensure the future of our club and if managed properly in terms of player recruitment who knows what could happen I actually think if those three come down it opens up league. Villa are up against it financially and will struggle, Bournemouth I think could drop again only Norwich are built to go up and down
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 19, 2020 19:33:19 GMT
Really think we should go all out this season as next season will probably have Norwich,Villa and maybe Bournemouth to contend with and promotion will become harder and harder.[br ]This season is proving to be a fairly mediocre season everybody beating each other and no really outstanding teams,thus providing an outstanding opportunity. I am not really interested in the prem but the cash will ensure the future of our club and if managed properly in terms of player recruitment who knows what could happen I actually think if those three come down it opens up league. Villa are up against it financially and will struggle, Bournemouth I think could drop again only Norwich are built to go up and down Inclined to agree. We tend to say the same thing every year about the teams coming down.
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Jan 20, 2020 10:50:19 GMT
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Post by kayak on Jan 20, 2020 10:50:19 GMT
Our poor goal difference effectively means we are 8 points off play off position, which means we have to win 3 games more than our competitors in the 18 games remaining. Impossible? No. I would give us a 10% chance of doing it.
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Post by spongeparr on Jan 20, 2020 11:05:13 GMT
I actually think if those three come down it opens up league. Villa are up against it financially and will struggle, Bournemouth I think could drop again only Norwich are built to go up and down Inclined to agree. We tend to say the same thing every year about the teams coming down. Every year it's the same thing. Teams coming down are so strong etc. Rarely works out that all 3 teams coming down actually do well.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Jan 20, 2020 11:12:07 GMT
Really think we should go all out this season as next season will probably have Norwich,Villa and maybe Bournemouth to contend with and promotion will become harder and harder.[br ]This season is proving to be a fairly mediocre season everybody beating each other and no really outstanding teams,thus providing an outstanding opportunity. I am not really interested in the prem but the cash will ensure the future of our club and if managed properly in terms of player recruitment who knows what could happen I actually think if those three come down it opens up league. Villa are up against it financially and will struggle, Bournemouth I think could drop again only Norwich are built to go up and down Spot on Westy. I was talking to someone Saturday who knows a few Norwich fans. He said they went up earlier than planned so they have effectively planned to take the cash and build an even better team to go up and stay up. That does seem consistent with their spending in the summer which was non existent. They will be very strong next season. I am praying for Villa to go down to show how the other model can spectacularly backfire.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 20, 2020 11:17:32 GMT
I think the team we all have to fear nxt season is Saracens now we know they being relegated to the championship
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Jan 20, 2020 11:33:23 GMT
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Post by West Acton on Jan 20, 2020 11:33:23 GMT
I think the team we all have to fear nxt season is Saracens now we know they being relegated to the championship i hear they use there hands a lot or at least more then Wells
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Post by esoxlucius on Jan 20, 2020 14:48:51 GMT
The Journeyman Gregor Robertson
Are Queens Park Rangers, in the wacky world of the Sky Bet Championship, the most madcap of the lot? Granted, it is a crowded field. Leeds United are gripped by a seemingly interminable neurosis. Derby County’s various off-field transgressions will surely be chronicled one day, perhaps even used to make a feature film. A handful of teams are about to feel the wrath of the EFL for circumnavigating profit and sustainability regulations. The Championship could soon be an indecipherable sea of asterisks. But on the football pitch? Well, this season QPR may just be the most crazy of them all.
The west London club, after Saturday’s hectic 1-0 home win against Leeds, reside in an underwhelming 14th place. Yet they have somehow managed to score 46 goals, more than every team other than West Bromwich Albion, who are top, while at the same time conceding 51 goals, a figure exceeded only by Luton Town, who are bottom. They are the entertainers and the infuriaters. Even in a division as capricious as the Championship, no team segues from the sublime to the ridiculous with quite such frequency.
This year began with the 6-1 shellacking of Cardiff City at Loftus Road on New Year’s Day. Four days later, the assault on Wales was completed with a 5-1 defenestration of Swansea City in the FA Cup. Last weekend, however, QPR were 3-0 down after little more than half an hour in a 3-1 defeat against local rivals Brentford. Then Saturday yielded only a third clean sheet of the season against second-placed Leeds, no less.
You see an average of 2.67 goals a game in the Championship; in QPR games, that figure is a league-highest 3.46. There have been four or more goals scored in 46 per cent of their games, including the 4-0 thumping by Nottingham Forest at Loftus Road in November and the 5-3 defeat by then rock-bottom Barnsley at Oakwell last month. In a 3-0 defeat at Cardiff City in October, QPR had 72 per cent possession and took more shots than in the 6-1 win in the reverse fixture on New Year’s Day.
So, what is behind these wild oscillations? And, is there any method to the madness?
Mark Warburton, who replaced Steve McClaren as manager in May, is the kind of coach who, rather than reverting to a Plan B, simply talks about performing Plan A better. The former City trader, who previously led Brentford from League One to the Championship, shipped out 17 players in the summer and signed 15, all on free transfers or on loan. Having previously fallen foul of EFL financial fair play rules, QPR have not paid a seven-figure fee since January 2017.
While the madness ensues, Les Ferdinand, the director of football, and Lee Hoos, the chief executive, have stuck to their guns, reducing the wage bill, identifying and developing young players. That is the plan but this is the result. It can be thrilling to watch and a triumvirate of young attacking midfielders represent the best of what QPR are trying to do.
Eberechi Eze, 21, was released by Millwall in 2016 before a successful trial shelved plans of enrolling at college and a part-time job at Tesco. Ilias Chair, 22, joined the development squad from Lierse SK, the Belgian second-tier club, after a trial later that year. Bright Osayi-Samuel, also 22, joined from Blackpool for an undisclosed fee in September 2017. Eze is a joy to watch, roaming from the left into pockets of space, gliding past defenders with ease and unerring poise. Just how much longer Loftus Road will get to enjoy his virtuoso talent is unclear. Spurs are among a number of Premier League clubs casting glances Eze’s way.
Just imagine if QPR could defend. As it is, 51 goals conceded prompted a series of mischievous adverts in the latest issue of A Kick up the R’s, with the fanzine touting the QPR defence as a the “World’s Greatest Charity”, a “cure for constipation”, and “Comedy of the Year”. No team have conceded more goals from big errors (10), or from set pieces (20), including six penalties. In mitigation, the experienced Yoann Barbet, Toni Leistner and Àngel Rangel, have all been struck down by injury.
“It feels like we’ve been punished every time we make a mistake,” Warburton said, although, given Leeds’s profligacy, perhaps QPR’s luck is changing.
Just seven points shy of the play-offs, could they make a late run? Truth is, your guess is as good as mine.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jan 20, 2020 17:22:36 GMT
Great article, that, Esox. Thanks for sharing.
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Post by Stanley75 on Mar 7, 2020 17:00:05 GMT
Six points off the play-offs. Game on. Why not?!?! 😀
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Post by Bill on Mar 7, 2020 17:07:53 GMT
Dare to dream its never over til its over 😁
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Post by Bill on Mar 7, 2020 17:09:10 GMT
The Journeyman Gregor Robertson Are Queens Park Rangers, in the wacky world of the Sky Bet Championship, the most madcap of the lot? Granted, it is a crowded field. Leeds United are gripped by a seemingly interminable neurosis. Derby County’s various off-field transgressions will surely be chronicled one day, perhaps even used to make a feature film. A handful of teams are about to feel the wrath of the EFL for circumnavigating profit and sustainability regulations. The Championship could soon be an indecipherable sea of asterisks. But on the football pitch? Well, this season QPR may just be the most crazy of them all. The west London club, after Saturday’s hectic 1-0 home win against Leeds, reside in an underwhelming 14th place. Yet they have somehow managed to score 46 goals, more than every team other than West Bromwich Albion, who are top, while at the same time conceding 51 goals, a figure exceeded only by Luton Town, who are bottom. They are the entertainers and the infuriaters. Even in a division as capricious as the Championship, no team segues from the sublime to the ridiculous with quite such frequency. This year began with the 6-1 shellacking of Cardiff City at Loftus Road on New Year’s Day. Four days later, the assault on Wales was completed with a 5-1 defenestration of Swansea City in the FA Cup. Last weekend, however, QPR were 3-0 down after little more than half an hour in a 3-1 defeat against local rivals Brentford. Then Saturday yielded only a third clean sheet of the season against second-placed Leeds, no less. You see an average of 2.67 goals a game in the Championship; in QPR games, that figure is a league-highest 3.46. There have been four or more goals scored in 46 per cent of their games, including the 4-0 thumping by Nottingham Forest at Loftus Road in November and the 5-3 defeat by then rock-bottom Barnsley at Oakwell last month. In a 3-0 defeat at Cardiff City in October, QPR had 72 per cent possession and took more shots than in the 6-1 win in the reverse fixture on New Year’s Day. So, what is behind these wild oscillations? And, is there any method to the madness? Mark Warburton, who replaced Steve McClaren as manager in May, is the kind of coach who, rather than reverting to a Plan B, simply talks about performing Plan A better. The former City trader, who previously led Brentford from League One to the Championship, shipped out 17 players in the summer and signed 15, all on free transfers or on loan. Having previously fallen foul of EFL financial fair play rules, QPR have not paid a seven-figure fee since January 2017. While the madness ensues, Les Ferdinand, the director of football, and Lee Hoos, the chief executive, have stuck to their guns, reducing the wage bill, identifying and developing young players. That is the plan but this is the result. It can be thrilling to watch and a triumvirate of young attacking midfielders represent the best of what QPR are trying to do. Eberechi Eze, 21, was released by Millwall in 2016 before a successful trial shelved plans of enrolling at college and a part-time job at Tesco. Ilias Chair, 22, joined the development squad from Lierse SK, the Belgian second-tier club, after a trial later that year. Bright Osayi-Samuel, also 22, joined from Blackpool for an undisclosed fee in September 2017. Eze is a joy to watch, roaming from the left into pockets of space, gliding past defenders with ease and unerring poise. Just how much longer Loftus Road will get to enjoy his virtuoso talent is unclear. Spurs are among a number of Premier League clubs casting glances Eze’s way. Just imagine if QPR could defend. As it is, 51 goals conceded prompted a series of mischievous adverts in the latest issue of A Kick up the R’s, with the fanzine touting the QPR defence as a the “World’s Greatest Charity”, a “cure for constipation”, and “Comedy of the Year”. No team have conceded more goals from big errors (10), or from set pieces (20), including six penalties. In mitigation, the experienced Yoann Barbet, Toni Leistner and Àngel Rangel, have all been struck down by injury. “It feels like we’ve been punished every time we make a mistake,” Warburton said, although, given Leeds’s profligacy, perhaps QPR’s luck is changing. Just seven points shy of the play-offs, could they make a late run? Truth is, your guess is as good as mine. Ive been shot down for mentioning the playoffs were still possible...never say never
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Post by esoxlucius on Mar 7, 2020 17:44:41 GMT
Have you the fortitude to withstand two legs against the Ruperts followed by a day at our second home against the best team we will play all season? all in the glare of the Sky cameras.
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Play offs
Mar 7, 2020 17:45:28 GMT
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Mar 7, 2020 17:45:28 GMT
Fuck that, don't want the playoffs at all 😂
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Post by Bill on Mar 7, 2020 17:48:24 GMT
Have you the fortitude to withstand two legs against the Ruperts followed by a day at our second home against the best team we will play all season? all in the glare of the Sky cameras. Would love it and if we meet the Ruperts great. If we won the playoffs dreamland becomes reality and will love sticking two fingers up to the EFL.
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Post by Stanley75 on Mar 7, 2020 17:49:40 GMT
Fuck that, don't want the playoffs at all 😂 Liar 😉
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Post by Bill on Mar 7, 2020 17:50:41 GMT
Would round my life supporting rangers off nicely another victory at Wembley would be out of this world.😁
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