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Post by esoxlucius on Mar 7, 2020 20:20:06 GMT
Tbf you win a lot more games in championship than ever in prem,today is enjoyable,getting spanked by say man city and the ilk every other week would be sapping. I think it would be tolerable to the die hard fans if they could see that the club was sticking to it's guns about preparing for the future. It's just the knuckle draggers and mouth breathers that shout and scream at every little set back in those cases. |
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Post by Bill on Mar 7, 2020 20:25:36 GMT
No chance,they a big club,they not allowed any real punishment. Think there is a chance,made an example of like us. Continuity is important otherwise the Ffp gurus will be open to all sorts of litigation from previous offenders.🤔 |
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Post by hal9thou on Mar 7, 2020 20:26:35 GMT
Steady on chaps.
Game by game. You know it makes sense.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Mar 7, 2020 20:32:53 GMT
My hands are fucked
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2020 20:58:37 GMT
Shows you how costly those dropped points mid season are going to be. We should have at least 10 more points on the board than we have.
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Post by esoxlucius on Mar 7, 2020 21:17:45 GMT
Shows you how costly those dropped points mid season are going to be. We should have at least 10 more points on the board than we have. That is part and parcel of the steep learning curve involved in getting the players to adapt to a completely (for them) new style of play. God only knows how much stick has been dished out at the manager and the players over playing out from the back, poor defensive marking, full backs being bypassed with diagonal balls over the top yet here we are in the top half of the league and likely safe from relegation and it is only just March. How many fans of the other teams are saying exactly the same thing about their expensively built teams who have had blips along the way? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2020 21:29:59 GMT
The basics have cost us not the playing out Reading and Brentford at home being an example of that. Done well up to this point so credit where it is due.
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Mar 7, 2020 22:33:39 GMT
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Post by Rangers77 on Mar 7, 2020 22:33:39 GMT
Let's get as many of those twenty seven points as we can. Next three games in the next two weeks: Barnsley h; Charlton a; Ruperts h. Let's pitch for nine. Seven points minimum....?
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Post by hubble on Mar 7, 2020 22:44:38 GMT
What a difference a day makes eh? Never seen such an outbreak of mass positivity on this board before. It must be contagious...
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Post by esoxlucius on Mar 7, 2020 23:35:10 GMT
What a difference a day makes eh? Never seen such an outbreak of mass positivity on this board before. It must be contagious... I'm wearing them down.  |
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Post by esoxlucius on Mar 7, 2020 23:36:00 GMT
Let's get as many of those twenty seven points as we can. Next three games in the next two weeks: Barnsley h; Charlton a; Ruperts h. Let's pitch for nine. Seven points minimum....? If it is at all possible to maintain our seasonal average of 1.3 points a game, we should hit 62 points. |
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Post by hal9thou on Mar 8, 2020 0:09:16 GMT
Let's get as many of those twenty seven points as we can. Next three games in the next two weeks: Barnsley h; Charlton a; Ruperts h. Let's pitch for nine. Seven points minimum....? If it is at all possible to maintain our seasonal average of 1.3 points a game, we should hit 62 points.
..... and since 5th place (Forest) are on 60 this evening, we're going to have to up that average considerably and hope that lots of of others consistently lower theirs.
It took us a little too long to sort out a few deficiencies which is why we are where we are. That's still a work in progress.
It also looks to me that since Wells left we're breaking faster, transitions have speeded up because it suits our front players and ATM options. It's a bit more direct.
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Post by Cross it Dave on Mar 8, 2020 4:29:42 GMT
Any money will be spunked on over paid new players whom when we go down will be gone at a loss. Or we do a Norwich and spend nothing,come down and ffp stops us spending it on squad.  Cassandra 😂 perfect |
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Post by West Acton on Mar 8, 2020 7:02:03 GMT
I get the argument of being in prem means higher proportion of defeats but on that case why do we also want big draw in cups
We tend to lose plenty of games regardless ie 15 this season. Personally rather get beat watching Man City or Liverpool on the hallowed turf then Reading
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2020 7:50:37 GMT
Would take being in the EPL for a season of tonkings just for the revenue it would bring and would use Norwich as the way to do it. Spend as little as you can and build again after relegation. Oh and keep the grinning idiot Fernandes away from everything and we may just be a better club for it. We have missed a real chance this season in a very average and open league.
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Post by Cross it Dave on Mar 8, 2020 9:59:04 GMT
Disagree it would wreck morale with the right leadership and management. Plus we need the money! [br Any money will be spunked on over paid new players whom when we go down will be gone at a loss. Or we do a Norwich and spend nothing,come down and ffp stops us spending it on squad. I would rather we followed Burnley’s example, Premier mid table security in the last few years, £36 million profit in 2018, roughly £80 million profit between 2012-2020 and Lee Hoos was their CEO between 2011-15 |
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Post by The General on Mar 8, 2020 10:31:43 GMT
Still need to sort the defence out a bit more to live this dream
Angel needs to play most weeks he is so important as is chair eze Bos ball
Live the dream
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Post by hubble on Mar 8, 2020 10:52:46 GMT
Realistically, it is highly unlikely we'll make the play-offs because there are 11 teams above us who are all going to pick up their fair share of points too.
I just did the league calculator thing, where you can predict all the results to the end of the season, and even being very optimistic with our results (only one loss, to WBA last game of season), I have us finishing 9th. Given the erratic nature of the league and us in particular, I'd say it's more likely to be about 11 or 12 - i.e. where we are now.
Here's the final table as I predicted it, being, as I say, very optimistic about our results!
# Team M. W. D. L. Goals Dif. Pt.
1 Leeds United 46 27 9 10 73:38 35 90
2 West Bromwich Albion 46 25 15 6 81:48 33 90
3 Fulham FC 46 23 13 10 71:48 23 82
4 Bristol City 46 22 10 14 67:61 6 76
5 Brentford FC 46 21 11 14 84:45 39 74
6 Millwall FC 46 19 17 10 62:49 13 74
7 Nottingham Forest 46 19 14 13 60:49 11 71
8 Cardiff City 46 18 16 12 63:60 3 70
9 Queens Park Rangers 46 19 11 16 76:74 2 68
10 Blackburn Rovers 45 18 13 14 67:56 11 67
11 Reading FC 46 19 10 17 63:52 11 67
12 Preston North End 46 19 10 17 60:57 3 67
13 Swansea City 46 16 16 14 56:56 0 64
14 Derby County 45 14 16 15 59:63 -4 58
15 Sheffield Wednesday 46 16 10 20 56:63 -7 58
16 Birmingham City 46 14 15 17 59:69 -10 57
17 Huddersfield Town 46 16 9 21 58:70 -12 57
18 Stoke City 46 15 8 23 58:66 -8 53
19 Hull City 46 13 11 22 58:75 -17 50
20 Charlton Athletic 46 12 11 23 53:69 -16 47
21 Middlesbrough FC 46 10 16 20 41:63 -22 46
22 Wigan Athletic 46 10 13 23 45:67 -22 43
23 Barnsley FC 46 10 11 25 51:82 -31 41
24 Luton Town 46 10 7 29 49:90 -41 37
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Post by James1979 on Mar 8, 2020 11:05:52 GMT
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Post by Cross it Dave on Mar 8, 2020 11:27:30 GMT
Hubble, that's Interesting, your league says 6 points between and us 6th place at season end, same difference as this morning.
We have to out point 6 teams, not 11 to nick 6th place, and those 6 teams current form isn’t a lot to write home about.
Until it is mathematically impossible, I ‘m going to keep hoping because as one old sage once said “football is a funny old game”
On an aside, what a wonderful league the championship is, half the teams can still get promoted, and nearly half can get relegated with only 9 games to go.
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Post by James1979 on Mar 8, 2020 11:54:08 GMT
Hubble - not that I’m looking at relegation but Wigan to get 2 more points? Seems unlikely. Surely they’ll get 1 win at least in 9 games!
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Post by acricketer on Mar 8, 2020 12:02:57 GMT
Hate to see us lose out on goal difference!
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Post by Stanley75 on Mar 8, 2020 12:08:09 GMT
We currently have the 2nd best form in the division.
We're 6 points off 6th place.
27 points still to play for.
These are the most relevant stats IMO. Therefore it's not unrealistic to say we have a fighting chance.
It goes without saying that "take one game at a time"; "keep feet on the ground"; "don't get carried away" - and all the other clichés apply. But by the same token a "fan" by definition is 'fanatical' too, and therefore positive and optimistic over their team's chances.
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Post by esoxlucius on Mar 8, 2020 12:13:49 GMT
We currently have the 2nd best form in the division. We're 6 points off 6th place. 27 points still to play for. These are the most relevant stats IMO. Therefore it's not unrealistic to say we have a fighting chance. It goes without saying that "take one game at a time"; "keep feet on the ground"; "don't get carried away" - and all the other clichés apply. But by the same token a "fan" by definition is 'fanatical' too, and therefore positive and optimistic over their team's chances. My work here on Earth is done Stanley. |
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Post by James1979 on Mar 8, 2020 12:24:17 GMT
Very true. At this stage of season there are also “no easy games”. Top or bottom or mid table as everyone has something to play for. Our toughest game is last one but if you have to play West Brom away, best time would be last game when they should be already promoted.
Fulham at home is also tough but hopefully being a derby and is at home will slightly even it up.
Millwall - a game we need to win to stand chance of getting to play offs.
The other games seem to be all lower half teams. Most definitely if not all will/are fighting to avoid drop. So they’ll be tough but they are down there for a reason.
Other thing is momentum. We’re in good form. We probably won’t make it but end of season going to be fun!
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Post by Stanley75 on Mar 8, 2020 12:25:21 GMT
My work here on Earth is done Stanley. You can't take all the credit Esox. I've never strayed from that view. Indeed the start of the season I recall Alan, I and a couple of others being more optimistic over our prospects than you, who have always placed more emphasis on the modest goal of survival! 😉 Anyway, lets see how it all pans out. Either way it's exciting. |
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Post by hubble on Mar 8, 2020 12:38:40 GMT
Hubble - not that I’m looking at relegation but Wigan to get 2 more points? Seems unlikely. Surely they’ll get 1 win at least in 9 games! Yes, I think I got Wigan wrong! Anyway, why don't others give it a go and see what you come up with? www.worldfootball.net/table_calculator/eng-championship/ |
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Post by James1979 on Mar 8, 2020 12:49:21 GMT
Hubble - not that I’m looking at relegation but Wigan to get 2 more points? Seems unlikely. Surely they’ll get 1 win at least in 9 games! Yes, I think I got Wigan wrong! Anyway, why don't others give it a go and see what you come up with? www.worldfootball.net/table_calculator/eng-championship/Mate, it’s over 100 games....might wait until 4 games to go😀 |
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Post by Cross it Dave on Mar 8, 2020 13:02:29 GMT
Didn’t cut and paste very well, but we on our way to Wembley, I’ll take my rose tinted specs off now
1 Leeds United 46 29 9 8 74:34 40 96
2 West Bromwich Albion 46 26 14 6 78:41 37 92
3 Nottingham Forest 46 23 14 9 65:44 21 83
4 Fulham FC 46 23 12 11 62:45 17 81
5 Brentford FC 46 23 10 13 78:41 37 79
6 Queens Park Rangers 46 22 9 15 74:65 9 75
7 Bristol City 46 21 12 13 59:57 2 75
8 Millwall FC 46 18 18 10 52:43 9 72
9 Cardiff City Cardiff City 46 18 17 11 61:56 5 71
10 Reading FC Reading FC 46 17 11 18 55:50 5 62
11 Preston North End Preston North End 46 16 12 18 55:55 0 60
12 Birmingham City Birmingham City 46 15 15 16 56:65 -9 60
13 Blackburn Rovers Blackburn Rovers 45 15 14 16 57:53 4 59
14 Swansea City Swansea City 46 13 19 14 53:57 -4 58
15 Stoke City Stoke City 46 15 9 22 58:65 -7 54
16 Sheffield Wednesday Sheffield Wednesday 46 14 12 20 50:58 -8 54
17 Wigan Athletic Wigan Athletic 46 12 16 18 43:55 -12 52
18 Luton Town Luton Town 46 15 7 24 52:78 -26 52
19 Derby County Derby County 45 12 15 18 52:63 -11 51
20 Hull City Hull City 46 13 10 23 53:72 -19 49
21 Huddersfield Town Huddersfield Town 46 11 12 23 47:67 -20 45
22 Middlesbrough FC Middlesbrough FC 46 9 16 21 40:58 -18 43
23 Charlton Athletic Charlton Athletic 46 10 11 25 46:65 -19 41
24 Barnsley FC Barnsley FC 46 8 12 26 43:76 -33 36
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Post by hal9thou on Mar 8, 2020 13:46:13 GMT
Just enjoy it while it lasts, one game at a time. Lets not put the kybosh on the whole shooting match by talking up our chances. Actions speak louder and so on.
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