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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 23, 2020 16:42:34 GMT
Overview| P | W | D | L | GF | GA | GD | Win % | | 50 | 17 | 11 | 22 | 76 | 84 | -7 | 34.00 |
(Wells 15 in 18) Hugill 15 in 34 Eze 14 in 44 BOS 6 in 37 (Hall 5 in 30) Chair 5 in 33 Manning 5 in 44 Top Assists Eze 8 Osayi-Samuel 8 Chair 7 Manning 7 GK Clean sheetsKelly 3 in 22 Lumley 3 in 28 GK ConcededKelly 35 in 22 (1.27 PPG) Lumley 49 in 28 (1.29 PPG) Disciplinary Yellow card Red card Geoff Cameron 12 1 Jordan Hugill 10 0 Bright Osayi-Samuel 10 0 Ryan Manning 8 0 Dominic Ball 6 0 Àngel Rangel 6 0 Yoann Barbet 5 1 Grant Hall 5 0 Luke Amos 5 0 Nahki Wells 5 0 Todd Kane 4 0 Eberechi Eze 3 0 Josh Scowen 3 0 Ilias Chair 3 0 Toni Leistner 3 0 Lee Wallace 2 1 Conor Masterson 1 0 Liam Kelly 1 0
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 23, 2020 17:20:46 GMT
83 goals conceded and only 6 clean sheets? Must be a record for goals conceded?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 17:32:57 GMT
Tried to find how we compared disciplinary record wise to other seasons but gave up..red cards look low at first glance.
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Post by rodman on Jul 23, 2020 21:17:09 GMT
Be interesting to see how many of those 83 goals each keeper conceded.
Especially each keepers goals conceded per game ratio.
My money would be on Lumley conceding the majority.
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Post by acricketer on Jul 23, 2020 21:20:36 GMT
Our disciplinary record should improve next season!
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 23, 2020 22:55:30 GMT
Be interesting to see how many of those 83 goals each keeper conceded. Especially each keepers goals conceded per game ratio. My money would be on Lumley conceding the majority. Lumley 47 conceded in 27 apps Kelly 35 conceded in 22 apps |
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Post by awin on Jul 23, 2020 23:14:32 GMT
Be interesting to see how many of those 83 goals each keeper conceded. Especially each keepers goals conceded per game ratio. My money would be on Lumley conceding the majority. Lumley 47 conceded in 27 apps Kelly 35 conceded in 22 apps That adds up to 82, who was in goal for the other one? |
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Post by James1979 on Jul 24, 2020 3:59:46 GMT
From getting relegated from the Premiership in 2015, this is the 2nd highest league position and 2nd highest points since our 1st season in championship. The highest being the 1st season after we went down. In my view, if it wasn’t for lockdown, we’d have exceeded 60 points and may have even got close to playoffs. All in all, a very good season.
We’ve played better football than under JFH, Holloway and McLaren
Warburton has had the smallest budget out of anyone
He’s completely revamped squad....proven he can do that, which is a good thing as we will likely need to replace some big players soon.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2020 5:55:03 GMT
From getting relegated from the Premiership in 2015, this is the 2nd highest league position and 2nd highest points since our 1st season in championship. The highest being the 1st season after we went down. In my view, if it wasn’t for lockdown, we’d have exceeded 60 points and may have even got close to playoffs. All in all, a very good season. We’ve played better football than under JFH, Holloway and McLaren Warburton has had the smallest budget out of anyone He’s completely revamped squad....proven he can do that, which is a good thing as we will likely need to replace some big players soon. Gone be tough replacing goal contributions of Manning, Eze and bos all in one summer |
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 24, 2020 6:54:20 GMT
From getting relegated from the Premiership in 2015, this is the 2nd highest league position and 2nd highest points since our 1st season in championship. The highest being the 1st season after we went down. In my view, if it wasn’t for lockdown, we’d have exceeded 60 points and may have even got close to playoffs. All in all, a very good season. We’ve played better football than under JFH, Holloway and McLaren Warburton has had the smallest budget out of anyone He’s completely revamped squad....proven he can do that, which is a good thing as we will likely need to replace some big players soon. Gone be tough replacing goal contributions of Manning, Eze and bos all in one summer Remember Les back in the 90's we sold him for 6 million, lost 20 odd goals a season and were relegated. We need to recruit well and that means the you tube king getting his finger out and finding players not just blokes who we have played in the last month. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 24, 2020 7:41:10 GMT
Lumley 47 conceded in 27 apps Kelly 35 conceded in 22 apps That adds up to 82, who was in goal for the other one? Thanks for pointing that out Awin. Checked on TransferMarkt and turns out Wiki got their sums wrong Total goals conceded is in fact 84 Lumley conceded 49 in 27 apps Kelly conceded 35 in 22 apps OP amended |
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Post by Vespa on Jul 24, 2020 9:25:00 GMT
From getting relegated from the Premiership in 2015, this is the 2nd highest league position and 2nd highest points since our 1st season in championship. The highest being the 1st season after we went down. In my view, if it wasn’t for lockdown, we’d have exceeded 60 points and may have even got close to playoffs. All in all, a very good season. We’ve played better football than under JFH, Holloway and McLaren Warburton has had the smallest budget out of anyone He’s completely revamped squad....proven he can do that, which is a good thing as we will likely need to replace some big players soon. Warburtons inability to sort out the defence cost us no doubt ,and his failure to change things up or even see a problem . But overall a good season , and attending matches has been a joy again , because it had become such a chore ! That will always be the most important thing for me , fast attacking football . As long as he given some of the incoming money to spend ,i`m still positive we are at last moving in the right direction . |
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jul 24, 2020 9:53:24 GMT
Finished 19th the previous season, finished 14th this one.
That is obvious progress.
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Post by alanwycombe on Jul 25, 2020 7:45:36 GMT
But it isn't Warburton's budget nor his choice of player therefore not his squad, it's Les'. Isn't that how it's supposed to work here with a DOF? Not that I agree with it at a club like ours. Doesn't that also mean that Les could bring in a defensive coach - something needed that everyone seems to be agreed upon?
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 25, 2020 8:07:51 GMT
Doesn't that also mean that Les could bring in a defensive coach - something needed that everyone seems to be agreed upon? If his title of "Director Of Football" actually means what it states, then yes, naturally! |
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Post by alanwycombe on Jul 25, 2020 8:11:38 GMT
I was being tongue in cheek there Stan. I'm no fan of the DOF idea at a small club. For me the manager runs the football side and the hierarchy just sets the budget.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 25, 2020 8:18:45 GMT
I was being tongue in cheek there Stan. I'm no fan of the DOF idea at a small club. For me the manager runs the football side and the hierarchy just sets the budget. We're in full agreement there Alan. Especially at a club like ours, where budgets are so tight. Furthermore MW has previous DoF experience anyway. Instead use the DoF salary to invest in players, where it's much more needed. I've been saying that for years though. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 8:27:59 GMT
Andrew Belk said in his recruitment video presentation that incoming players were finalised amongst a panel consisting of MW,Les and Belk.
Judging by the players recruited so far I would guess that Ball,Wallace,Kelly and possibly Barbett would all have been solely MW choices due to previous connections to those players.
I think it’s fair to say MW has had a relatively free hand so far regarding player selection albeit with free transfers and Kelly at £50k.
I would agree with your comment Alan that Les should in theory have the final say on transfers,tactics and further coaches coming in.
I honestly believe that by having Eustace ,Banfeild and Gardiner all as first team coaches at least one of them should be capable of improving our shocking defensive frailties.
I personally think Les and Eustace need to step up and tell MW where he’s been letting himself down this season.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 25, 2020 8:40:06 GMT
In MW's Millwall post-match interview, in response to the question about conceding 3 more goals, he said "We will need to look at that and address it". "We" as in him and his coaching staff, none of who's specific role is defensive coach. We've conceded 84 goals this season, a pretty shocking statistic, yet he maintains that the responsibility for that situation should be equally shared between all the coaches. This then begs the question: Does the team actually work on defensive drills in training? You would surely assume so...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 9:00:09 GMT
In MW's Millwall post-match interview, in which we conceded 3 more goals, some will have noted that he said "We will need to look at that and address it". "We" as in him and his coaching staff, none of who's specific role is defensive coach. We've conceded 84 goals this season, a pretty shocking statistic, yet he maintains that the responsibility for that situation should be equally shared between all the coaches. This then begs the question: Does the team actually work on defensive drills in training? You would surely assume so... What I took away from that statement was that MW stated we are a team that lacks height/ presence. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 9:46:26 GMT
I was being tongue in cheek there Stan. I'm no fan of the DOF idea at a small club. For me the manager runs the football side and the hierarchy just sets the budget. QPR need owners with more intelligence on how to run a football club ,then we would not require LF as DOF |
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 25, 2020 10:07:38 GMT
In MW's Millwall post-match interview, in which we conceded 3 more goals, some will have noted that he said "We will need to look at that and address it". "We" as in him and his coaching staff, none of who's specific role is defensive coach. We've conceded 84 goals this season, a pretty shocking statistic, yet he maintains that the responsibility for that situation should be equally shared between all the coaches. This then begs the question: Does the team actually work on defensive drills in training? You would surely assume so... Clint Hill openly states that no defensive drills were done under Warburton at Rangers and judging by 84 conceded would hazard a guess that is still the case. No doubt in my mind while he has gkt us playing easy on the eye football during the season which is a good thing he has cost us a play off place by not being able to defend and 6 clean sheets through a season is just not good enough. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 25, 2020 10:25:34 GMT
In MW's Millwall post-match interview, in which we conceded 3 more goals, some will have noted that he said "We will need to look at that and address it". "We" as in him and his coaching staff, none of who's specific role is defensive coach. We've conceded 84 goals this season, a pretty shocking statistic, yet he maintains that the responsibility for that situation should be equally shared between all the coaches. This then begs the question: Does the team actually work on defensive drills in training? You would surely assume so... What I took away from that statement was that MW stated we are a team that lacks height/ presence. His quote above was in specific reference to the 3 more goals conceded. I should have made that clearer. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 10:51:34 GMT
What I took away from that statement was that MW stated we are a team that lacks height/ presence. His quote above was in specific reference to the 3 more goals conceded. I just watched the Millwall interview again a couple of times Stan...I still only get an admittance of lack of physical/ height presence ? I’m sure MW realises that our defending is shocking but do we have the players to play any different ? There is nobody in our team either at GK,FB, CB or MF positions that are really good enough at defending at this time imo. As a footnote Kakay could be but early days yet...the rest I would be inclined to say over the course of the season are not good defensively at this time. |
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Post by acricketer on Jul 25, 2020 11:18:02 GMT
That adds up to 82, who was in goal for the other one? Thanks for pointing that out Awin. Checked on TransferMarkt and turns out Wiki got their sums wrong Total goals conceded is in fact 84 Lumley conceded 49 in 27 apps Kelly conceded 35 in 22 apps OP amended Teams must look at our team sheet before walking onto the pitch, see Lumley's name and think "We're 2-0 up!" |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 25, 2020 11:18:07 GMT
His quote above was in specific reference to the 3 more goals conceded. I just watched the Millwall interview again a couple of times Stan...I still only get an admittance of lack of physical/ height presence ? I’m sure MW realises that our defending is shocking but do we have the players to play any different ? There is nobody in our team either at GK,FB, CB or MF positions that are really good enough at defending at this time imo. As a footnote Kakay could be but early days yet...the rest I would be inclined to say over the course of the season are not good defensively at this time. My bad Sparx, I was referring to the WBA pre-match interview in which he referred back to the goals conceded against Millwall. Same game, different interview - sorry for the confusion. |
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