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Post by The General on Jul 28, 2020 16:12:30 GMT
All there saying Ginge is Mark Warbs need some help to keep the club in the division
I agree with them if we don't invest we will be relegated no one on here wants that
Writings on the wall atm if anyone can't see that then they should also join the QPR board
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Post by The General on Jul 28, 2020 16:15:05 GMT
We have 5 weeks to sell Bos , Eze and Buy new players in many new positions it's not gonna happen
Warbs did pretty well with the players he had really but take Eze wells and Bos out and it's a totally diff story
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jul 28, 2020 16:15:42 GMT
All there saying Ginge is Mark Warbs need some help to keep the club in the division I agree with them if we don't invest we will be relegated no one on here wants that Writings on the wall atm if anyone can't see that then they should also join the QPR board Yeah of course, I agree investment is needed. My point is there's no point pelting the chairman with all that when we're barely days into the transfer window and funds won't be available until we sell some players. Its really not a hard concept to grasp. We can't just produce money out of thin air, and with FFP we have to live within our means, not just click and expect billionaire owners to pony up some cash when the EFL will likely punish us for doing so. Like I said, numpties to a man. Knuckle dragging numpties.
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Post by The General on Jul 28, 2020 16:25:49 GMT
Agree Ginge good point need to sell Eze quick as it will affect our transfer dealings that are pretty critical to say the least
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2020 16:34:39 GMT
All there saying Ginge is Mark Warbs need some help to keep the club in the division Good job Amit has people on twitter keeping him update on the situation 🤪
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Post by hal9thou on Jul 28, 2020 16:38:15 GMT
All there saying Ginge is Mark Warbs need some help to keep the club in the division I agree with them if we don't invest we will be relegated no one on here wants that Writings on the wall atm if anyone can't see that then they should also join the QPR board and with FFP we have to live within our means We're now sanction clear and FFP has been suspended. Plus also the legal status of FFP is in turmoil at the moment. If it does come back it may well be in a radically different form.
It's very simple really. It comes down to want the current owners are trying to achieve business wise. I think they want to run the club as cheaply as possibly without devaluing it by relegation. For me, that's as risky a strategy as investing in coach and playing staff.
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Post by West Acton on Jul 28, 2020 16:39:39 GMT
Wonder how many clubs in this division are having exact same discussion with same fears
Next season will be unknown quantity with everything going on! Who knows if we will even be competing against 23 other teams. We could be pushing at an open door
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Post by The General on Jul 28, 2020 16:54:57 GMT
At least the owners have permission to build a hotel and office complex at old street station now that will help us stay up lol
Sorry could not resist that
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Post by acricketer on Jul 28, 2020 17:58:23 GMT
Take a day off mate! We really ain't doing as bad as you like to make out. apart from the keepers not having hands, tell me what part of that post is factually incorrect. I thought that was the factual part!
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Post by James1979 on Jul 28, 2020 18:06:22 GMT
So how much money do people think we’ll have to spend? Say we get 28m for Eze and 5m for BOS. But those numbers are probably not all cash day 1. I reckon 15m max.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jul 28, 2020 18:06:53 GMT
and with FFP we have to live within our means We're now sanction clear and FFP has been suspended. Plus also the legal status of FFP is in turmoil at the moment. If it does come back it may well be in a radically different form.
It's very simple really. It comes down to want the current owners are trying to achieve business wise. I think they want to run the club as cheaply as possibly without devaluing it by relegation. For me, that's as risky a strategy as investing in coach and playing staff.
A suspension of FFP and being sanction clear doesn't give us the green light to go spending money again like we were. We have to run like a proper sustainable business, if that means selling players to fund new ones then so be it. Add to that the unknown quantity of what our financial situation is like after lockdown. It just boils my piss that the morons on Twitter don't seem to get it. After we spunked money up the wall in the Premier League and caused all the financial crap we've endured since, you'd think people would know the logical thing would be to stay away from that strategy for good. Tweeting Amit relentlessly ordering him to spend days into the transfer window and before selling any players is frankly idiotic. Am I being too cautious in my thinking? Maybe. I'd just rather have a club to support than risk it all by pissing money up the wall again.
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 28, 2020 18:25:18 GMT
We're now sanction clear and FFP has been suspended. Plus also the legal status of FFP is in turmoil at the moment. If it does come back it may well be in a radically different form.
It's very simple really. It comes down to want the current owners are trying to achieve business wise. I think they want to run the club as cheaply as possibly without devaluing it by relegation. For me, that's as risky a strategy as investing in coach and playing staff.
A suspension of FFP and being sanction clear doesn't give us the green light to go spending money again like we were. We have to run like a proper sustainable business, if that means selling players to fund new ones then so be it. Add to that the unknown quantity of what our financial situation is like after lockdown. It just boils my piss that the morons on Twitter don't seem to get it. After we spunked money up the wall in the Premier League and caused all the financial crap we've endured since, you'd think people would know the logical thing would be to stay away from that strategy for good. Tweeting Amit relentlessly ordering him to spend days into the transfer window and before selling any players is frankly idiotic. Am I being too cautious in my thinking? Maybe. I'd just rather have a club to support than risk it all by pissing money up the wall again. Our issues Ginge were not buying players it was what we were paying them. I would have no issue buying a Callum Wilson type player for a couple of million in the knowledge that it was a sound investment. What we did in the past was pay huge wages to players who had no re sell value. Would like us to invest in the team like we did 10 years ago with the right kind of players not any old junk that want a good pay day for very little work.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jul 28, 2020 20:00:54 GMT
A suspension of FFP and being sanction clear doesn't give us the green light to go spending money again like we were. We have to run like a proper sustainable business, if that means selling players to fund new ones then so be it. Add to that the unknown quantity of what our financial situation is like after lockdown. It just boils my piss that the morons on Twitter don't seem to get it. After we spunked money up the wall in the Premier League and caused all the financial crap we've endured since, you'd think people would know the logical thing would be to stay away from that strategy for good. Tweeting Amit relentlessly ordering him to spend days into the transfer window and before selling any players is frankly idiotic. Am I being too cautious in my thinking? Maybe. I'd just rather have a club to support than risk it all by pissing money up the wall again. Our issues Ginge were not buying players it was what we were paying them. I would have no issue buying a Callum Wilson type player for a couple of million in the knowledge that it was a sound investment. What we did in the past was pay huge wages to players who had no re sell value. Would like us to invest in the team like we did 10 years ago with the right kind of players not any old junk that want a good pay day for very little work. That's exactly what I want too, it just seems to me that these Twitter people want money splashed left right and centre and will hound the owners on social media if they don't get it.
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Post by 1973ranger on Jul 28, 2020 20:07:04 GMT
Our issues Ginge were not buying players it was what we were paying them. I would have no issue buying a Callum Wilson type player for a couple of million in the knowledge that it was a sound investment. What we did in the past was pay huge wages to players who had no re sell value. Would like us to invest in the team like we did 10 years ago with the right kind of players not any old junk that want a good pay day for very little work. That's exactly what I want too, it just seems to me that these Twitter people want money splashed left right and centre and will hound the owners on social media if they don't get it. Not on twitter as try very hard to survive on planet earth.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jul 28, 2020 21:03:13 GMT
That's exactly what I want too, it just seems to me that these Twitter people want money splashed left right and centre and will hound the owners on social media if they don't get it. Not on twitter as try very hard to survive on planet earth. Neither am I mate, for the very reason that it's full of absolute weapons.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2020 21:04:57 GMT
The Gen has deffo been tweeting Amit today 😛
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2020 15:48:24 GMT
Think I've updated with all our ins
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Post by Maidstone_Hoop on Aug 22, 2020 12:28:39 GMT
What are options regarding our rb situation? Is Kakay a natural rb or cb as I wasn’t 100% convinced by Kane, although I don’t mind him as a wb.
I still think we need to recruit at least 1 cb, but ideally two, a rb, a winger, another number 10 style player and ideally buy another striker and loan a back up!!
When Warburton said only 2 or 3 more additions I thought that was relatively low and would leave us very vulnerable if that was genuinely a case.
I like the idea of signing Watson from Forest, he had a very good season for them last year and he’d add that experience and nous to the team along with cameron.
I also think the cb link to the lad who use to be at spurs and was last year in Poland sounds promising on a free and if we secured Dickie from Oxford that would be one of the signings we have made on years.
He’s very similar to Maguire in the way he plays!!
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Post by James1979 on Aug 23, 2020 8:07:46 GMT
What are options regarding our rb situation? Is Kakay a natural rb or cb as I wasn’t 100% convinced by Kane, although I don’t mind him as a wb. I still think we need to recruit at least 1 cb, but ideally two, a rb, a winger, another number 10 style player and ideally buy another striker and loan a back up!! When Warburton said only 2 or 3 more additions I thought that was relatively low and would leave us very vulnerable if that was genuinely a case. I like the idea of signing Watson from Forest, he had a very good season for them last year and he’d add that experience and nous to the team along with cameron. I also think the cb link to the lad who use to be at spurs and was last year in Poland sounds promising on a free and if we secured Dickie from Oxford that would be one of the signings we have made on years. He’s very similar to Maguire in the way he plays!! Kakay seems to have improved a lot since was it 2 years that he played for us? Anyway, he looks an improvement on Kane. As you say we must sign a good dominant centre back. One who is the 1st choice and Barbet and Masterson can rotate. I think we only need sell one of Eze, BOS and Manning. Personally I’d sell Eze, for more money and use funds to get a couple of players in whilst still keeping lot in bank for rainy day. We also need another striker but could maybe try for another loan signing or 2 to help here. I’d still get Ejaria in if Eze goes. Take advantage of Reading situation as they can’t afford the fee.
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 23, 2020 8:23:34 GMT
Another very solid performance from him yesterday. Don't recall him putting a foot wrong. Having a confident keeper behind you another factor...
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Post by West Acton on Aug 23, 2020 8:37:18 GMT
Kakay should never have been bombed after the mullering at WBA he was doing fine but management and fans lost nerve early on and he was sacrificed. Should have persisted with him and he would be going into his third season. I got high hopes for him
If we bring in Watson then I’m not sure we will go for CBs or at very best we will get one in as I think Watson coning in with Ball and Amos and Cameron all in place means 4 don’t go into 2 so Cameron will be CB, not a position I’m a fan seeing him in
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Post by West Acton on Aug 23, 2020 8:37:40 GMT
Another very solid performance from him yesterday. Don't recall him putting a foot wrong. Having a confident keeper behind you another factor... how did Dieng look?
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 23, 2020 8:59:18 GMT
Another very solid performance from him yesterday. Don't recall him putting a foot wrong. Having a confident keeper behind you another factor... how did Dieng look? Wimbledon barely threatened him all game. He pulled off one good save low to his left and importantly parried it wide and out of danger. Almost got caught out one time trying to play it out in his area but just about managed to find a team-mate. Other than that he exuded confidence the whole game and did the basic things very well. His distribution looks fine too. Overall an impressive debut but we need to see how he fares against stronger opposition. I'd certainly like to see him given a chance.
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