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Post by itsonlyagame on Sept 17, 2023 8:34:50 GMT
Anyone think him going down in the corner of the box was a pen?
Could see from where I was.
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Post by West Acton on Sept 17, 2023 8:44:04 GMT
Anyone think him going down in the corner of the box was a pen? Could see from where I was. good shout I thought it was one could have been given especially based some of the other soft decisions Ref gave |
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Post by Shania on Sept 17, 2023 8:44:18 GMT
Anyone think him going down in the corner of the box was a pen? Could see from where I was. He fell a bit too easily for me... |
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Post by alanwycombe on Sept 17, 2023 8:45:36 GMT
Anyone think him going down in the corner of the box was a pen? Could see from where I was. He fell a bit too easily for me... Isn’t that the idea these days?☹️ |
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Post by alanwycombe on Sept 17, 2023 8:47:12 GMT
Has to start on Tuesday. If he wants away but no one fancies him then he needs to wise up. If he’s no longer fit enough for the Championship maybe they should pay him off. Not sure I’ve ever seen a player fall off the cliff so dramatically. what’s point of paying him off? He won’t accept anything less then he’s due so keep him around and hopefully keep working so you get something out of him. Paying him Off just allows him Opportunity to get double pay for 6months. Agree on the drop off and would really like to know what it’s to do with fitness/injuries or final year of contract. Or Maybe he’s just soft and needs certain type of manager to excel. You pay him off if he’s a bad smell hanging around affecting the camp. |
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Post by Shania on Sept 17, 2023 8:48:21 GMT
He fell a bit too easily for me... Isn’t that the idea these days?☹️ True that, alanwycombe ... |
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Post by West Acton on Sept 17, 2023 8:52:42 GMT
what’s point of paying him off? He won’t accept anything less then he’s due so keep him around and hopefully keep working so you get something out of him. Paying him Off just allows him Opportunity to get double pay for 6months. Agree on the drop off and would really like to know what it’s to do with fitness/injuries or final year of contract. Or Maybe he’s just soft and needs certain type of manager to excel. You pay him off if he’s a bad smell hanging around affecting the camp. any evidence he is other then his form has gone. Everyone a player struggles he’s badged with the bad egg tag. I suspect the real bad apples are the ones we hang out the back of. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Sept 17, 2023 8:54:56 GMT
I did say IF - we have no idea what’s going on but we have to do something. How many passengers can we afford when we can’t afford a striker?
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Post by Rangers77 on Sept 17, 2023 8:57:31 GMT
Zero effort and no fitness tells me he's a wrong un.
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Post by West Acton on Sept 17, 2023 8:59:48 GMT
Zero effort and no fitness tells me he's a wrong un. Adel a wrong un? Especially in prem under us? |
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Post by West Acton on Sept 17, 2023 9:01:33 GMT
Was he wrongun under Warburton and start of beale when he was flying??
I’m not saying he’s not but is there actually any evidence of it. Perhaps he’s just lost all confidence and dont trust his body.
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Post by Shania on Sept 17, 2023 9:05:09 GMT
Beale said he brought Willock back too early out of necessity. Maybe at the meeting tomorrow, someone should raise the question if this is stil affecting Willock in any way.
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Post by West Acton on Sept 17, 2023 9:06:12 GMT
Beale said he brought Willock back too early out of necessity. Maybe at the meeting tomorrow, someone should raise the question if this is stil affecting Willock in any way. good question |
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Post by Shania on Sept 17, 2023 9:07:33 GMT
Was he wrongun under Warburton and start of beale when he was flying?? I’m not saying he’s not but is there actually any evidence of it. Perhaps he’s just lost all confidence and dont trust his body. I have now posted a similar post. We need some information from the club/player on this. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Sept 17, 2023 9:10:22 GMT
Was he wrongun under Warburton and start of beale when he was flying?? I’m not saying he’s not but is there actually any evidence of it. Perhaps he’s just lost all confidence and dont trust his body. No but he’s not playing all over the pitch with Chair like they used to. Perhaps he doesn’t want to play for Ainsworth like Richards? We don’t know but whatever it is it needs addressing. We’re not in a position to have two potential game changing players doing fuck all. |
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Post by Rangers77 on Sept 17, 2023 9:10:24 GMT
Zero effort and no fitness tells me he's a wrong un. Adel a wrong un? Especially in prem under us? Sadly, in 2014-15, yes. Great in 2011-12. Players, for whatever reason, turn off. It might be a fitness concern, sure. A lack of confidence. Arrogance in the case of Adel then. But whatever it is, it makes them a liability. And liabilities are wrong uns. |
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Post by Rangers77 on Sept 17, 2023 9:20:49 GMT
The only other mitigating circumstance is where both Willock, when he does appear, (and Chair) are asked to play. Both are number tens asked to play wide right or left. Surely, with one up in 361, which is what were playing, moving to 541 without the ball, the wing backs push up into 3511, with Chair or Willock (he clearly doesn't want to play both) the point man behind Armstrong, each allowed use either channel and wing back as necessary. If he played there, and didn't improve we'd know what was going on.
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Post by sparks on Sept 17, 2023 10:29:35 GMT
I don’t want to watch half a dozen George Thomas’s hustling and bustling through games. take Willock and Chair out of this squad and the rest look like journeymen heading for League 1.
I primarily want to be entertained by a team containing a decent sprinkling of footballers with good ball skills, I’m already fed up watching players emptying the tank and conceding huge possession stats.
I look at Ainsworth as just a stop gap in the same way Holloway was, I personally can’t wait for him to leave.
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Post by Vespa on Sept 17, 2023 16:19:04 GMT
I don’t want to watch half a dozen George Thomas’s hustling and bustling through games. take Willock and Chair out of this squad and the rest look like journeymen heading for League 1. I primarily want to be entertained by a team containing a decent sprinkling of footballers with good ball skills, I’m already fed up watching players emptying the tank and conceding huge possession stats. I look at Ainsworth as just a stop gap in the same way Holloway was, I personally can’t wait for him to leave. 100% a step back in football from Warburton and Beale |
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Post by Rangers77 on Sept 17, 2023 21:42:35 GMT
I don’t want to watch half a dozen George Thomas’s hustling and bustling through games. take Willock and Chair out of this squad and the rest look like journeymen heading for League 1. I primarily want to be entertained by a team containing a decent sprinkling of footballers with good ball skills, I’m already fed up watching players emptying the tank and conceding huge possession stats. I look at Ainsworth as just a stop gap in the same way Holloway was, I personally can’t wait for him to leave. 100% a step back in football from Warburton and Beale Yeah but he ain't going to fuck off when something bigger comes calling. And Warbs had bored our arses off. He's an idiot, sure, but he's our idiot. That's where we are at. |
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Post by shepherdsmush on Sept 17, 2023 22:58:49 GMT
get rid...simple
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Sept 18, 2023 7:27:22 GMT
I thought he did ok. Actually thought he showed the odd touch of the old version of Willock.
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Post by Bill on Sept 18, 2023 9:08:54 GMT
Zero effort and no fitness tells me he's a wrong un. Just running his contract down. |
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Post by spongeparr on Sept 18, 2023 10:42:37 GMT
Running his contract down doesn't make sense (from his POV). People have been saying it since Beale left. He is going from amazing stats to someone who can't get a game, so he is ruining his own idea of getting a bigger club and bigger wages.
More likely he'll end up at a similr club on similar wages
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Sept 18, 2023 10:53:13 GMT
I agree Sponge, I don't think he is doing that either. I just think he is mentally not right after that last injury. So disappointing as there is a real talent there.
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Post by Bill on Sept 18, 2023 10:56:44 GMT
Running his contract down doesn't make sense (from his POV). People have been saying it since Beale left. He is going from amazing stats to someone who can't get a game, so he is ruining his own idea of getting a bigger club and bigger wages. More likely he'll end up at a similr club on similar wages It does if you have an offer on the table with a nice signing on fee. |
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Post by spongeparr on Sept 18, 2023 11:16:07 GMT
Running his contract down doesn't make sense (from his POV). People have been saying it since Beale left. He is going from amazing stats to someone who can't get a game, so he is ruining his own idea of getting a bigger club and bigger wages. More likely he'll end up at a similr club on similar wages It does if you have an offer on the table with a nice signing on fee. Totally agree. But if he isn't pumping out the numbers, getting minutes, then who is offering him that? I don't think anyone (who is going to offer a lot more than us) will. |
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Post by itsonlyagame on Sept 18, 2023 11:38:04 GMT
If he’s running his contract down he’s a disgrace.
Opinions vary on GA but I think it’s fair to say he’s not a nasty vindictive cunt like some managers. So whether Willock agrees with Ainsworths managerial/playing style or not, he should at least be keeping himself fit and contributing when asked. There’s 14,000 reasons why he should do that and they’re paying his wages, not GA.
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Post by Bill on Sept 18, 2023 12:51:11 GMT
If he’s running his contract down he’s a disgrace. Opinions vary on GA but I think it’s fair to say he’s not a nasty vindictive cunt like some managers. So whether Willock agrees with Ainsworths managerial/playing style or not, he should at least be keeping himself fit and contributing when asked. There’s 14,000 reasons why he should do that and they’re paying his wages, not GA. Yes it is a disgrace but he not the first and not the last to do it. Clubs know what he is capable of. So keep yourself fit avoid injury and move on with a nice new contract and a signing on fee in your back pocket. Self preservation,and looking after number 1. You dont suddenly become a poor player overnight. The player that went to Turkey did the same cant remember his name. |
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Post by Corbray on Sept 18, 2023 13:01:27 GMT
If he’s running his contract down he’s a disgrace. Opinions vary on GA but I think it’s fair to say he’s not a nasty vindictive cunt like some managers. So whether Willock agrees with Ainsworths managerial/playing style or not, he should at least be keeping himself fit and contributing when asked. There’s 14,000 reasons why he should do that and they’re paying his wages, not GA. Yes it is a disgrace but he not the first and not the last to do it. Clubs know what he is capable of. So keep yourself fit avoid injury and move on with a nice new contract and a signing on fee in your back pocket. Self preservation,and looking after number 1. You dont suddenly become a poor player overnight. The player that went to Turkey did the same cant remember his name. bright osayi samuel? i thought he was good in his last 6 months with us but he shafted us as he seemed to indicate he'd be signing a new deal then randomly announced he'd signed a precontract with fenerbache |
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