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Post by hal9thou on Oct 29, 2020 21:06:39 GMT
Been looking at the way some of the German clubs are run in terms of the stake the fanbase has.
Got me thinking about the current value of the club re buy outs etc. What d'you reckon?
One problem is that there is still an outstanding charge on the entire LR property. In favour of Barclays, Hong Kong.
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Post by manti on Oct 29, 2020 22:46:15 GMT
The trouble for fans groups is they have to refinance the clubs debts if they take it over. When Bees United took over Brentford from Ron Noades we had to acquire guarantees of circa £9m from Noades to Barclays Bank. BTW he never put any money into the club - just guaranteed it to the bank. So we had a loan note issue from Bees United to raise cash and individuals putting their own houses up as collateral to buy time. In the end we were very fortunate that Matthew Benham came forward to replace Noades as Guarantor to the bank. Eventually he paid off the loans and bought control of the club from Bees United. The rest is now history. We would never be where we are now without him.
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Post by 1qprdk on Oct 30, 2020 2:09:44 GMT
And we probably would not be where we are now without Tony Fernandes.  |
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Post by West Acton on Oct 30, 2020 6:22:06 GMT
The fans are not going to buy the club. If there is another Chris Wright out there then an Individual might, but as a bulk of fans lumping together it won’t happen
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Post by hal9thou on Oct 30, 2020 15:25:20 GMT
The trouble for fans groups is they have to refinance the clubs debts if they take it over. Which is pretty much why I mentioned the outstanding LR charge. It's not the only one. On top of that there's running costs etc etc.
Also I'm more interested in valuing the club than suggesting a supporters trust buy out.
However, its worth noting that in 13 the club was valued at 55m. I strongly suspect that today it would actually be worth less.
Hypothetically then we're not talking astronomical amounts, assuming that there is a will to do business on the Malaysian side.
How much do they want? That was the question.
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BUY OUT
Oct 30, 2020 15:38:55 GMT
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Oct 30, 2020 15:38:55 GMT
Even the most retarded person in the world in these times wouldn't consider purchasing a football club.
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Post by Rangers77 on Oct 30, 2020 17:12:47 GMT
I'll chip in if Hitman can be DoF........ 👍🏻😊
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Oct 30, 2020 17:27:45 GMT
I vote Dave from watrb as manager,ht be priceless. Ted could do press conference. Weare could be striker,cos he says he soooo good
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Post by hal9thou on Oct 30, 2020 23:09:48 GMT
Even the most retarded person in the world in these times wouldn't consider purchasing a football club.
Bottom of any market means there are always people with an eye on value.
I'm just trying to work out how much the club is worth as of now. The Barclays charge was an eye opener, weren't we all told that it had been satisfied? The fact that it's on the real estate is a sobering thought....
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Post by acricketer on Oct 30, 2020 23:34:25 GMT
I think we are toxic. Only have history as a sop.
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Oct 31, 2020 8:26:36 GMT
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Post by West Acton on Oct 31, 2020 8:26:36 GMT
Don’t think they have any interest in parting. They have just invested in a training ground during pandemic when their other businesses are suffering, that’s them doubling down in my eyes.
Would not even know where to start in putting value on club. Can’t imagine medium size club, which spends more then it brings in is worth that much.
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Oct 31, 2020 8:34:47 GMT
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Oct 31, 2020 8:34:47 GMT
The value is not the club,its only in the land asset. And that be subject to planning. Otherwise we not worth fuck all.
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 31, 2020 8:57:14 GMT
The value is in the land asset. And the player assets, FWIW. |
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Oct 31, 2020 10:03:25 GMT
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Post by James1979 on Oct 31, 2020 10:03:25 GMT
The value is in the land asset. And the player assets. Definitely the land we should be counting on then 😂 |
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Oct 31, 2020 13:16:31 GMT
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Oct 31, 2020 13:16:31 GMT
It is the land that's the value. Infrastructure on it second then various smaller assets like mowers vehicles etc. Players are just employed and contracts have a shelf life.
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Oct 31, 2020 14:18:41 GMT
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Post by 1973ranger on Oct 31, 2020 14:18:41 GMT
The value is in the land asset. And the player assets, FWIW. How much would the squad be valued at? 10 million the lot. |
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Post by hal9thou on Oct 31, 2020 14:33:57 GMT
The value is not the club,its only in the land asset.
And that's exactly why Barclays have a preferential charge on it.
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