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Post by James1979 on Nov 22, 2020 15:10:03 GMT
Excatly, and ultimately, teachers are bound to lose the autonomy and respect they badly need in their jobs. Some of the opinion ,that was taught as fact to my 13 year old at school during the BLM protests was shocking , so much so i contacted the school to tell them my girl would not be doing certain homework that had been set to her ,and explained why . Especially the stuff that didnt distinguish between America and here , as if we have the same problems that they do . Out of interest, what were the kids being taught? I hate us being compared with US. Love the way BLM equate some poor sod who was shot by police to mark duggan. If I was family of some of these black kids killed in US, I’d being disgusted my boy or girl was associated with a drug dealing, gang member in the UK.
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Post by Vespa on Nov 22, 2020 16:48:46 GMT
Some of the opinion ,that was taught as fact to my 13 year old at school during the BLM protests was shocking , so much so i contacted the school to tell them my girl would not be doing certain homework that had been set to her ,and explained why . Especially the stuff that didnt distinguish between America and here , as if we have the same problems that they do . Out of interest, what were the kids being taught? I hate us being compared with US. Love the way BLM equate some poor sod who was shot by police to mark duggan. If I was family of some of these black kids killed in US, I’d being disgusted my boy or girl was associated with a drug dealing, gang member in the UK. They were being taught about the injustices that black people face in America ,police brutality and like the funding for schools in black areas . But they werent being taught that it was in America and not here .They were also taught that white privelege is a fact not an opinion . Its a dangerous thing to teach this to children anywhere but especially in an area where white people are in the minority and if i`m honest white kids who can`t stand up for themselves get a hard time on the street . As you know my kids are mixed but still have had racial issues and it aint been off white kids , luckily they are street wise and can handle themselves . Shouldn`t be like that though .
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Nov 22, 2020 17:02:04 GMT
Don't get any of that black white shit out here,tbf all ages races mix well,apart from all the white kids who grew up together and now trying to kill each other like they think there in Chicago.
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Post by Vespa on Nov 22, 2020 17:13:35 GMT
Don't get any of that black white shit out here,tbf all ages races mix well,apart from all the white kids who grew up together and now trying to kill each other like they think there in Chicago. Things were a lot smoother before all this BLM thing took hold , since then tensions for the kids have rampted up unfortunately
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Nov 22, 2020 17:17:17 GMT
Nit round here,this been going on 6 plus years,fire arm found in alley this morning,shots fired in day at house last week,it a war zone in essex
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Post by Vespa on Nov 22, 2020 17:29:35 GMT
Nit round here,this been going on 6 plus years,fire arm found in alley this morning,shots fired in day at house last week,it a war zone in essex i mean between the races , Croydons been like the wild west for years especially West Croydon /Thornton Heath
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Nov 22, 2020 17:46:38 GMT
Plenty of black folk round here for 50 plus years so we just don't get any of that shit as all grew up mixing drinking dancing etc. Then all the kids have done same.
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Post by BrightonR on Nov 22, 2020 18:07:29 GMT
Don't get any of that black white shit out here,tbf all ages races mix well,apart from all the white kids who grew up together and now trying to kill each other like they think there in Chicago. Things were a lot smoother before all this BLM thing took hold , since then tensions for the kids have rampted up unfortunately It was always going to be so mate, wasn’t it? Unfortunately, those of us who were against them and could see where it would lead were probably seen as non-caring white folk. Or as you have found out to your cost recently, even racists. If we could all simply just go through life without worrying about skin pigmentation, then none of this shit need exist. Very depressing to think that we haven’t all twigged by now.
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Post by Vespa on Nov 22, 2020 18:23:05 GMT
Things were a lot smoother before all this BLM thing took hold , since then tensions for the kids have rampted up unfortunately It was always going to be so mate, wasn’t it? Unfortunately, those of us who were against them and could see where it would lead were probably seen as non-caring white folk. Or as you have found out to your cost recently, even racists. If we could all simply just go through life without worrying about skin pigmentation, then none of this shit need exist. Very depressing to think that we haven’t all twigged by now. Well said Brights ,but it aint just non caring white folk ,there is enough non caring mixed and black folk that see the bigger picture !
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Post by Vespa on Nov 22, 2020 18:27:56 GMT
one thing ,ive had a couple of people try to get hold of me on FB messenger , since yesterday ,trying to get hold of my details ! These cunts will get their fingers burnt so badly if they crack on
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 22, 2020 18:36:41 GMT
If we could all simply just go through life without worrying about skin pigmentation, then none of this shit need exist. Very depressing to think that we haven’t all twigged by now. Which was essentially MLK's "dream" from his seminal speech of 1963 (57 years ago): "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. I have a dream today!"How sad to think that society has, in many ways, regressed since those days due to the divisive nature of identity politics.
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Post by West Acton on Nov 22, 2020 20:06:47 GMT
If we could all simply just go through life without worrying about skin pigmentation, then none of this shit need exist. Very depressing to think that we haven’t all twigged by now. Which was essentially MLK's "dream" from his seminal speech of 1963 (57 years ago): "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. I have a dream today!"How sad to think that society has, in many ways, regressed since those days due to the divisive nature of identity politics. so true. What really showed the current problem and how deep it is is the volume of people who have got upset and said they are going to boycott Sainsbury’s because of their Christmas advert Really made me sigh seeing some of the views on twitter. Really sad times
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Post by BrightonR on Nov 22, 2020 20:32:16 GMT
one thing ,ive had a couple of people try to get hold of me on FB messenger , since yesterday ,trying to get hold of my details ! These cunts will get their fingers burnt so badly if they crack on Forgive my ignorance, but trying to get what details? And for what purpose?
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Post by BrightonR on Nov 22, 2020 20:40:30 GMT
Which was essentially MLK's "dream" from his seminal speech of 1963 (57 years ago): "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. I have a dream today!"How sad to think that society has, in many ways, regressed since those days due to the divisive nature of identity politics. so true. What really showed the current problem and how deep it is is the volume of people who have got upset and said they are going to boycott Sainsbury’s because of their Christmas advert Really made me sigh seeing some of the views on twitter. Really sad times Had no idea what you were talking about, then just seen what the advert was. And then, utterly gobsmacked to see some of the vile comments on twitter. Hardly surprising though, as it would appear to be a breeding ground for imbeciles. I may well be wrong, but if it weren’t for BLM and others whose sole intent seems to be to create division and unrest lately, I think it would have gone largely ignored. At least, I’d like to think that would have been the case.
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Post by West Acton on Nov 22, 2020 20:42:58 GMT
Honest opinion mate I noticed change from brexit vote it’s not BLM IMO
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Post by Vespa on Nov 22, 2020 20:44:29 GMT
one thing ,ive had a couple of people try to get hold of me on FB messenger , since yesterday ,trying to get hold of my details ! These cunts will get their fingers burnt so badly if they crack on Forgive my ignorance, but trying to get what details? And for what purpose? trying to send me messages ,on FB messenger , like they know me . Ive blocked them , but if i responded and said somthing like " oh hi mate ,i dont remember you ,where are we mates from ? " they would have my FB details and phone number For what purpose i dont know ,but i doubt its to send me Christmas cards ! another strange thing is if i google search the group ,i can`t even find it know !
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Post by BrightonR on Nov 22, 2020 20:47:18 GMT
Forgive my ignorance, but trying to get what details? And for what purpose? trying to send me messages ,on FB messenger , like they know me . Ive blocked them , but if i responded and said somthing like " oh hi mate ,i dont remember you ,where are we mates from ? " they would have my FB details and phone number For what purpose i dont know ,but i doubt its to send me Christmas cards ! another strange thing is if i google search the group ,i can`t even find it know ! I wouldn’t know how to use facebook or messenger. Guess I’m lucky. 😂
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Post by BrightonR on Nov 22, 2020 20:49:58 GMT
Honest opinion mate I noticed change from brexit vote it’s not BLM IMO Are you saying people have treated you differently since Brexit? Bit odd. Brexit had fuck all to do with skin colour. Apart from another reason for the idiot racists to make themselves look even more ridiculous.
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Post by Vespa on Nov 22, 2020 21:09:00 GMT
Honest opinion mate I noticed change from brexit vote it’s not BLM IMO Are you saying people have treated you differently since Brexit? Bit odd. Brexit had fuck all to do with skin colour. Apart from another reason for the idiot racists to make themselves look even more ridiculous. the whole Brxit thing is very odd ,people know try to make it a right wing /left wing thing ,even racist/non racist . They forget Cameron only called it on because he was so out of touch with what the working class thought , he never thought for a second we wanted out ! , the Tories were very much Remain ,Cameron certainly was , and Corbyn historically was very much anti europe , it was never a vote left or right ! i voted out ffs and id cut off my cock before i ever vote Tory
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 22, 2020 21:28:30 GMT
Forgive my ignorance, but trying to get what details? And for what purpose? trying to send me messages ,on FB messenger , like they know me . Ive blocked them , but if i responded and said somthing like " oh hi mate ,i dont remember you ,where are we mates from ? " they would have my FB details and phone number For what purpose i dont know ,but i doubt its to send me Christmas cards ! another strange thing is if i google search the group ,i can`t even find it know ! Just on technical points Vesps, by replying on Messenger it doesn't give them your phone number, but just the ability to make an audio or video call to you using the app. (That's presuming you haven't listed your phone number on your FB profile, which I'd highly advise against, even if it's visible to your FB friends list only). It's also very easy to block any unwanted people who try contacting you on Messenger. And the reason why the group has stopped appearing in a search is because the idiots have blocked your account.
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Post by Shania on Nov 22, 2020 21:39:29 GMT
It`s not excatly peace on the WATRB messageboard these days. No room for critising aspects with QPR there at all now.
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Post by Vespa on Nov 22, 2020 21:40:42 GMT
trying to send me messages ,on FB messenger , like they know me . Ive blocked them , but if i responded and said somthing like " oh hi mate ,i dont remember you ,where are we mates from ? " they would have my FB details and phone number For what purpose i dont know ,but i doubt its to send me Christmas cards ! another strange thing is if i google search the group ,i can`t even find it know ! Just on technical points Vesps, by replying on Messenger it doesn't give them your phone number, but just the ability to make an audio or video call to you using the app. (That's presuming you haven't listed your phone number on your FB profile, which I'd highly advise against, even if it's visible to your FB friends list only). It's also very easy to block any unwanted people who try contacting you on there. And the reason why the group has stopped appearing in a search is because the idiots have blocked your account. ok Stan ,so if irspond to these messages ,it wont give them any of my personal details ?
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 22, 2020 21:47:37 GMT
Just on technical points Vesps, by replying on Messenger it doesn't give them your phone number, but just the ability to make an audio or video call to you using the app. (That's presuming you haven't listed your phone number on your FB profile, which I'd highly advise against, even if it's visible to your FB friends list only). It's also very easy to block any unwanted people who try contacting you on there. And the reason why the group has stopped appearing in a search is because the idiots have blocked your account. ok Stan ,so if irspond to these messages ,it wont give them any of my personal details ? Correct mate. But it would allow them to audio/video call you via the app or send you audio messages. Also just make sure none of your personal details are entered on your publicly visible FB account, (as opposed to what your FB friends can see). You can tweak all this in the privacy settings on your account.
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Post by Vespa on Nov 22, 2020 22:07:00 GMT
ok Stan ,so if irspond to these messages ,it wont give them any of my personal details ? Correct mate. But it would allow them to audio/video call you via the app or send you audio messages. Also just make sure none of your personal details are entered on your publicly visible FB account, (as opposed to what your FB friends can see). You can tweak all this in the privacy settings on your account. Good stuff ,thanks for your help Stan !
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Post by 1973ranger on Nov 23, 2020 8:04:49 GMT
Honest opinion mate I noticed change from brexit vote it’s not BLM IMO Nonsense. The media have a lot to do with it and how things are put across. Brexit was not about colour where as BLM was potrayed as colour from start to finish.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Nov 23, 2020 8:26:26 GMT
Dont engage in any form my advice. FB is a minefield,affairs,stalkers,loons galore. I steer well clear.
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Post by West Acton on Nov 23, 2020 9:00:45 GMT
Honest opinion mate I noticed change from brexit vote it’s not BLM IMO Nonsense. The media have a lot to do with it and how things are put across. Brexit was not about colour where as BLM was potrayed as colour from start to finish. maybe it was not to you and rightly so (was not for me) but unfortunately your opinion does not cover everyone in country
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Post by 1973ranger on Nov 23, 2020 9:28:06 GMT
Nonsense. The media have a lot to do with it and how things are put across. Brexit was not about colour where as BLM was potrayed as colour from start to finish. maybe it was not to you and rightly so (was not for me) but unfortunately your opinion does not cover everyone in country I think you are way off the mark and the MSM especially the BBC have a lot to answer since Brexit and even more so this year.
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Post by West Acton on Nov 23, 2020 9:30:39 GMT
Cool your opinion which is fine, I don’t agree entirely
Anyway this is distracting from what is a good interesting thread so will stick a lid on this
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Post by BrightonR on Nov 23, 2020 9:47:46 GMT
This thread has reminded me of our first interesting dilemma, when originally we restricted membership to invite only, as we could more or less be certain of how people would conduct themselves.
Whilst more members and more opinions would be welcome, I can’t help but be grateful for how you lot engage in debate and disagree with each other in a respectful manner. It should be a given really, but experiences such as Vespa’s prove that it’s not necessarily so in reality.
Thank you to everyone for maintaining your standards.
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