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Post by Bill on Dec 12, 2020 19:51:07 GMT
On reading posts for most games this season I am led to believe this.
Some players are not playing for the team and are trying to further their careers elsewhere by trying to be stars before they really are.
Recent history tells us if you are exceptional
as Eze is you will get a move and namely Bos and Chair see their careers away from us.
Over playing,not passing and trying to impress individually does not help the team effort
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Post by rscot on Dec 12, 2020 19:54:06 GMT
On reading posts for most games this season I am led to believe this. Some players are not playing for the team and are trying to further their careers elsewhere by trying to be stars before they really are. Recent history tells us if you are exceptional as Eze is you will get a move and namely Bos and Chair see their careers away from us. Over playing,not passing and trying to impress individually does not help the team effort . If you are part of a winning team scouts will come to watch your team. Warburton must share some of the burden here for allowing players to do what they’ve been doing, ie still allowing Chair to take set pieces when the are totally ineffective |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Dec 12, 2020 20:02:53 GMT
No good passing or laying on dream balls,if a donkey on the other end.
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Post by rscot on Dec 12, 2020 20:29:11 GMT
No good passing or saying on dream balls,if a donkey on the other end. Looking at the stats, the whole offensive unit is underperforming, especially Willock |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Dec 12, 2020 21:35:08 GMT
Willock looks a good player to me so blaming him I find bizarre. One of the only plus points recently. I sometimes wonder if I'm watching the same games as others.
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Post by rscot on Dec 12, 2020 21:39:44 GMT
I know that stats don’t tell the whole story, but 1 assist from 13 starts is a poor return from an attacking midfielder. And I’m not specifically blaming him, I said the whole offensive unit is underperforming
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Dec 12, 2020 21:47:10 GMT
Or it could be we not under achieving but actually at our level.
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Post by rscot on Dec 12, 2020 21:52:35 GMT
Or it could be we not under achieving but actually at our level. Well yes, the league table doesn’t lie. But I think the “offensive unit” could be more productive if they just changed a few simple aspects of their game. Whether they can as individual players, I don’t know. Whether Warburton can make these changes as manager, I don’t know. |
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Post by The General on Dec 12, 2020 21:57:00 GMT
Main observation is it's not working atm
New manager required and more experienced players in every part of the team
We are sinking fast need action now
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Post by Hitman34 on Dec 12, 2020 23:44:22 GMT
Willock looks a good player to me so blaming him I find bizarre. One of the only plus points recently. I sometimes wonder if I'm watching the same games as others. Agree with you there, quite like the look of him. that carthorse up front though is absolute dire. 18 odd games in, and he has 1 goal from open play to his name. even the substitute has more goals than him. week after week, its the same thing from him. runs about when the other teams defense has the ball, stands still chewing gum when we have the ball. |
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Post by acricketer on Dec 13, 2020 0:59:58 GMT
Luckily for those not measured by goals scored it's not quite so easy to see how shit they are. I do think he's a donkey but at least a carrot could be dangled now and again.
I think Dieng needs to come under a bit more scrutiny. He's always letting in goals and we're losing. Might as well get Lumley back!
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Dec 13, 2020 15:39:18 GMT
I know that stats don’t tell the whole story, but 1 assist from 13 starts is a poor return from an attacking midfielder. And I’m not specifically blaming him, I said the whole offensive unit is underperforming Sorry, when you said "especially Willock" I assumed you meant especially Willock. |
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Post by rscot on Dec 13, 2020 15:48:47 GMT
I know that stats don’t tell the whole story, but 1 assist from 13 starts is a poor return from an attacking midfielder. And I’m not specifically blaming him, I said the whole offensive unit is underperforming Sorry, when you said "especially Willock" I assumed you meant especially Willock. His stats are the worst by a margin of the 3 attacking midfielders QPR play. Again maybe they’d be better if he took the set pieces and maybe he’d be more productive if played through the middle? But 1 assist in 13 games is not what you want from an attacking midfielder, no matter how good, neat and tidy he looks in possession. |
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Post by bushcelt1 on Dec 13, 2020 16:21:42 GMT
Not enough pride in wearing the shirt, players just going through the motions without a care in the world. I'm sitting here watching the all Ireland hurling final and thats what you call passion-proud to wear their colours,put their bodies on the line and these guys are amatuers!! Maybe a different manager could get more out of them but ultimately its down to the 11 on the pitch.
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Post by Bill on Dec 13, 2020 20:04:36 GMT
Not enough pride in wearing the shirt, players just going through the motions without a care in the world. I'm sitting here watching the all Ireland hurling final and thats what you call passion-proud to wear their colours,put their bodies on the line and these guys are amatuers!! Maybe a different manager could get more out of them but ultimately its down to the 11 on the pitch. Another reason that i totally agree with,the days of loyalty and running through brick walls for a club are well and truly over, |
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Post by Shania on Dec 13, 2020 21:05:14 GMT
When Warburton has been sacked we really need to bring in a loan for Cameron. He is far too slow.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Dec 13, 2020 21:56:53 GMT
When Warburton has been sacked we really need to bring in a loan for Cameron. He is far too slow. Galapagos turtle we've tried swapping him for. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Dec 13, 2020 22:36:32 GMT
Sorry, when you said "especially Willock" I assumed you meant especially Willock. His stats are the worst by a margin of the 3 attacking midfielders QPR play. Again maybe they’d be better if he took the set pieces and maybe he’d be more productive if played through the middle? But 1 assist in 13 games is not what you want from an attacking midfielder, no matter how good, neat and tidy he looks in possession. It's not 13 games though Rscot. Most of those have been off the bench or hooked early therefore it's unfair to judge it as if it were 13 full games. That's where stats can be misleading. I think that's what CCJ was driving at. |
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