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Post by Ginger Ninja on Apr 1, 2019 17:56:44 GMT
Both tweeting in support of Steve McLaren tonight.
Well, that's them gone at the end of the season.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2019 18:04:59 GMT
Losing them for so long never helped us and ultimately cost McClaren his job. 2 good pro's amongst some real shyte that has been assembled over a 3 to 4 year period.
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Post by West Acton on Apr 1, 2019 18:22:58 GMT
I think its good they’re showing respect clearly good coach and man just washed up manager
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Post by James1979 on Apr 1, 2019 19:32:29 GMT
Personally they are 2 of a very small number that I would make every effort to keep
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2019 19:37:49 GMT
Agree James, The poor recruitment over the past 3 or years has cost managers their jobs. No manager can do anything with Lynch and Bidwell playing reguarly in the same side.
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Post by Rangers77 on Apr 1, 2019 20:14:44 GMT
Both praising Steve to the highest heavens on Twitter tonight.
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 1, 2019 20:24:16 GMT
Both tweeting in support of Steve McLaren tonight. Well, that's them gone at the end of the season. Not sure one necessarily follows the other? There's never been any doubt over his coaching talents, only his managerial ones. I'd hope that is what they're essentially communicating, as well as the understandable gratitude for signing them and the faith he's shown in them.... |
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 2, 2019 5:28:24 GMT
Agree James, The poor recruitment over the past 3 or years has cost managers their jobs. No manager can do anything with Lynch and Bidwell playing reguarly in the same side. Cast your mind back 6 months mate, both of those players were playing very well. We were also 2nd in the form table. Its mystifying how badly and quickly we've dropped off. I honestly think McClaren has realised how far up shit creek we are and has lost the stomach for the job. Don't get me wrong, our player recruitment is woeful, and has actually got far worse since Ollie left. But that on it's own can't be used to explain why every manager that comes here fails. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 6:11:36 GMT
Sorry Tarbie Bidwell has never played well slight improvement maybe as for Lynch he again had a 7 or 8 game improvement. All managers will struggle if the players who are brought in are of a very poor standard so recruitment is crucial and the money spunked pre Holloway confirms that.
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 2, 2019 6:26:17 GMT
Sorry Tarbie Bidwell has never played well slight improvement maybe as for Lynch he again had a 7 or 8 game improvement. All managers will struggle if the players who are brought in are of a very poor standard so recruitment is crucial and the money spunked pre Holloway confirms that. Of course recruitment is key mate. And I agree ours has been poor, and our squad this season is horribly short of depth. I'll also agree on current form that Lynch and Bidwell both look poor. The whole squad looks poor in fact. But these are the same players who had us 2nd in the form table less than 6 months ago. Bidwell and Lynch played virtually every game through that run we were on. There is something very wrong at the club when things can turn on their head as rapidly as they have done this season. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 6:57:57 GMT
Bidwell and Lynch have been desperate signings overall and while they were part of the team that were doing well they have also been massively involved in the terrible run. Recruitment and lack of direction has been our downfall and will continue to be the case.
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 2, 2019 7:25:15 GMT
Bidwell and Lynch have been desperate signings overall and while they were part of the team that were doing well they have also been massively involved in the terrible run. Recruitment and lack of direction has been our downfall and will continue to be the case.Hard to dispute that 2nd sentence mate. The problems at the club all stem from a lack of direction, coming right down from the very top. With regards to Lynch and Bidwell. Lynch has been a poor signing overall, but there have been patches in his QPR career where he has looked a very good defender. It's a mystery to me why he only seems to be able to do it for a month or 2 in a season. His distribution lets him down massively most of the time. I disagree on Bidwell though, I think he's a decent left back at this level. Of course he isn't playing well right now, but literally nobody in the squad is. |
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Post by James1979 on Apr 2, 2019 7:40:13 GMT
Rangel didn’t have a club. He’s also been one of our best players this season
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 2, 2019 7:42:08 GMT
I think its good they’re showing respect clearly good coach and man just washed up manager He also gave them an opportunity to play regular football which was not going to happen at their respective clubs. It'll be interesting to see what happens next season with players like Jeff Cameron. Still in contract with their clubs, but unlikely to get a game. The Championship is going through somewhat of a correction, with FFP forcing clubs to spend less. The knock on effect is wages are going down, and contract lengths offered are bound to get shorter. I think there will be a lot of clubs looking to shift on unwanted players. But with salaries on a downward trend, the best they may be able to do is send them on loan with the other club only paying a percentage of the players wage. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 2, 2019 9:45:01 GMT
It'll be interesting to see what happens next season with players like Jeff Cameron. Still in contract with their clubs, but unlikely to get a game. The Championship is going through somewhat of a correction, with FFP forcing clubs to spend less. The knock on effect is wages are going down, and contract lengths offered are bound to get shorter. I think there will be a lot of clubs looking to shift on unwanted players. But with salaries on a downward trend, the best they may be able to do is send them on loan with the other club only paying a percentage of the players wage. Read some interesting quotes from Hoos on that this morning: "You never say never, but the likelihood is that they'll (Wells, Cameron and Hemed) go back to their parent clubs. I'm sure their clubs will have their own ideas on what to do with those players as well, so we just have to see how that goes. One of the good things about doing a loan is that you're not committed. Instead of having a level of salary over three years, you only have it for one year and so you can manage it on a year by year basis. I think this summer is going to be really interesting. I saw a really dramatic change towards the end of the transfer window in the summer last year. Suddenly, the wages that the players were asking for and the fees that clubs were asking for, they weren't getting them. In January we saw how quiet it had been and I think that FFP is really starting to hit home. I think there's going to be some very disappointed players out there this summer who are thinking 'I'm going to go out and I'm going to make this' and suddenly the club goes 'we can't afford to do that under these regulations'. It's the same with clubs. By the end of the window we were asking about some players on loan who were asking for astronomical fees and by the time we got to the end of the window with a couple of days to go, we were getting phone calls saying 'are you still interested? If you just pay this much to the salary you can have them', but sorry we can't do that now. I think it could be a really interesting time for football." www.football.london/queens-park-rangers-fc/qpr-transfer-news-wells-hemed-15819926 |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Apr 2, 2019 9:56:16 GMT
He also gave them an opportunity to play regular football which was not going to happen at their respective clubs. It'll be interesting to see what happens next season with players like Jeff Cameron. Still in contract with their clubs, but unlikely to get a game. The Championship is going through somewhat of a correction, with FFP forcing clubs to spend less. The knock on effect is wages are going down, and contract lengths offered are bound to get shorter. I think there will be a lot of clubs looking to shift on unwanted players. But with salaries on a downward trend, the best they may be able to do is send them on loan with the other club only paying a percentage of the players wage. I agree. It might actually level the playing field a bit although you can always argue in the championship anyone can beat anyone on their day anyway. It is all about consistency, getting promoted. |
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 2, 2019 9:57:40 GMT
It's not just Hoos saying it as well Stan. I've read similar quotes from various people who know Championship football very well. It's about the only thing that gives me any hope for QPR. The fact that we have made this adjustment 2 or 3 years ahead of the rest of the division. There will be sides in the Championship next season that will be totally hamstrung in the transfer market, simply by the fact they have players on high wages that they no longer want, and cannot shift. It's basically what send Sunderland down to League 1.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Apr 2, 2019 14:18:24 GMT
It's not just Hoos saying it as well Stan. I've read similar quotes from various people who know Championship football very well. It's about the only thing that gives me any hope for QPR. The fact that we have made this adjustment 2 or 3 years ahead of the rest of the division. There will be sides in the Championship next season that will be totally hamstrung in the transfer market, simply by the fact they have players on high wages that they no longer want, and cannot shift. It's basically what send Sunderland down to League 1. Wouldn't it be hilarious if the same thing happened to Fulham and Cardiff? That'd be the best day. Unless we join them of course. |
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 2, 2019 14:34:52 GMT
It's not just Hoos saying it as well Stan. I've read similar quotes from various people who know Championship football very well. It's about the only thing that gives me any hope for QPR. The fact that we have made this adjustment 2 or 3 years ahead of the rest of the division. There will be sides in the Championship next season that will be totally hamstrung in the transfer market, simply by the fact they have players on high wages that they no longer want, and cannot shift. It's basically what send Sunderland down to League 1. Wouldn't it be hilarious if the same thing happened to Fulham and Cardiff? That'd be the best day. Unless we join them of course. I'd love to see Fulham slip down the divisions mate. Relegated sides do have somewhat of an advantage with parachute payments though. As long as they haven't gone berserk with the contracts they've handed out (like we did), they should be able to keep the squad more or less together for a season and have a stab at going straight back up! |
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Apr 2, 2019 14:56:53 GMT
Wouldn't it be hilarious if the same thing happened to Fulham and Cardiff? That'd be the best day. Unless we join them of course. I'd love to see Fulham slip down the divisions mate. Relegated sides do have somewhat of an advantage with parachute payments though. As long as they haven't gone berserk with the contracts they've handed out (like we did), they should be able to keep the squad more or less together for a season and have a stab at going straight back up! They lost over a million a week in their last Championship season, is it wishful thinking to hope that's gonna come back to bite them big time? |
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