Faysal Bettache

From the little I have seen of the young midfielder Bettache, I feel that he is good enough.

Not sure he's up to this level myself. At very least, he needs a good bit more time out on loan. 

I think there is a good chance Bettache might not be good enough, as I already said mate. But there is no way that 1 month at Billericay and 4 or 5 sub/cup appearances for us is anywhere near enough 1st team football to judge him on. Hence he could do with a season in League 1 on loan to learn a bit and get used to playing first team football week in, week out. I think the only reason he didn't go on loan this season was that we knew we were short of central midfield playmakers. 

In answer to your question though, Masterson will come back in. I'd sack off Cameron myself, legs have gone and isn't worth another deal. Masterson will step in where Cameron has been playing. Shodipo has done well on loan and I think he's got 2 years left on his deal, so I reckon he'll get a chance. As for the rest, only Smyth is anywhere near good enough (and I'm being generous with that). The rest should probably be let go. 

This is why we have loans though mate. Not sure what it is about the generally accepted system at most clubs of loaning out U23's until they are ready that baffles you so much. They aren't being paid much, some will make it, many won't. numbers game really. Only way you'll know if the player is good enough is to give them first team chances where you can (whether that be at the club or on loan elsewhere), and make a call based on how they develop. 

I guess I hold my opinion on loans because right back to Dave Clement’s debut I’ve had the pleasure of seeing our young players actually play for us and develop in our team not play somewhere else until they are released. Nothing better than seeing a young player impress.

Agree that he needs to be playing. Do they think he is too good to loan but not good enough for the bench? I think he has looked good when I have seen him but the problem is that we have barely seen him.

I said in a different threat that our 'young team' isn't actually that young.

Niko, Masterson, Lumley, Dieng, Chair, Shodipo etc are all over 20, most over 23/24. Bettache is 20 and is probably our youngest young player that's getting near the first team.

Kelman seems to have dropped back to the youth team.

loaning works for some and not others, is what it is tbh. lumley had a string of loans until breaking into our side and looked a shoe in for the prem one day until he lost confidence.

same with dieng who's also had plenty of loans so it does work imo.

even if you loan out 5 players and only 1 works out its still worth it as the ones who don't work out for us likely can do a job in the lower leagues and can bring in money from transfers. niko for example is league 1 standard so could net us 500k or so

Difference between Dykes and Oteh is Dykes has scored at international level and Scottish Prem level, so around where we are so fairly proven.


Oteh hasn't done it at this level, and to be honest he hasn't done it at any level other than youth.

Imo, Bettache played very well in his short cameo, yesterday.

maybe not the best move for him as he seems too good for league 2. but in the same breath it worked very well for chair when he was loaned out to stevenage so maybe its a chance for bettache to get regular game time against experienced footballers in a league he should excel in

Right move to loan him out in my opinion. League 1 would have been better but regardless, a season of playing week in, week out for a 1st team is what he needs.

Yes but arsenal b are way better than oldham A, so standard be harder.

Dozell ain't even getting a game mate. We are fine in central midfield.

Clubs done well with youth. Feel like he would have been better going out last year but maybe no clubs offerer the right style of play.

B team is good for dimness but still won't be as competitive as league football.