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Post by James1979 on Sept 1, 2021 6:32:48 GMT
I’ve seen that said by quite a few qpr fans over the years. Does anyone have that view this year?
Personally, I don’t really understand that view. What’s the point of entering a competitor if you don’t want the prize at the end? What makes you ready? Even if you’re not, don’t forget you just get the money and put your club in a better place? What’s one season of getting beat for a qpr fan, we’ve had years of crap things to get used to, it’s in our blood.
Specifically to this season, if we don’t get up, I’m pretty certain we will lose Dickie, Dieng and maybe one or both of Chair and Willock. I know selling for a profit and reinvesting in other similar players is the strategy and one I completely agree with. But, we managed to replace Eze and improve but that’s one player, imagine losing 4 of our best players…….I’d say that’s pretty impossible to replace and improve as a team.
It’s clear to me that this season, the board etc feel this is our chance. I never thought we’d sign Austin and Stef. But we’ve done that and some. Maybe we can afford it but at the least we’re stretching ourselves to try to go up this season. The board, manager must think we’re ready.
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Post by 1973ranger on Sept 1, 2021 6:38:50 GMT
What championship team is ready? Fulham, WBA and Norwich proving that
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Sept 1, 2021 6:43:38 GMT
Think the prem should fuck off on their own, it’s worlds apart for most teams.
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Post by West Acton on Sept 1, 2021 6:46:14 GMT
Agree with 73
I do scratch my head when I’ve heard fans say that in the past. If you finish In the promotion places you’re ready to go up weather you can compete once you go up is another question
I say who cares, go up bank the 100mil and operate astutely so you don’t waste the money and keep going up every other year until over time you have a squad that is competitive. It’s worked for norwich, Fulham and West Brom
Amount of times they have gone up and come down would suggest as 73 says your never ready in which case let’s just stop promotion.
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Post by James1979 on Sept 1, 2021 6:48:04 GMT
Think the prem should fuck off on their own, it’s worlds apart for most teams. And I think the so-called bigger clubs will fuck off. Be good to be in their league when they do. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Sept 1, 2021 6:55:03 GMT
Get promoted and keep the squad that got you up and take the beatings and the 200 million to build the club up again. Yes we will get tonked but we would if we bring in a load of overpaid rejects.
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Post by Corbray on Sept 1, 2021 7:53:22 GMT
Get promoted and keep the squad that got you up and take the beatings and the 200 million to build the club up again. Yes we will get tonked but we would if we bring in a load of overpaid rejects. this this this. if we don't go up then we can wave goodbye to dieng, dickie, chair, dykes and likely willock too if he continues his form. i have no doubt that we'd reinvest wisely but those 5 are the core of our team so we'd be gutted quite handedly. if we do go up and come straight back down then not only will it fit in with our gradual rebuilding process but we'd have a shed load of cash to invest in the side for the following season in the championship with the aim of going right back up and we could probably keep most of our best players as they would be able to see that the club has a vision in place. we're a good 3-4 seasons away from even attempting to be a stable prem club imo. i genuinely don't mind going right back down again as long as we do it in style lol, keep playing good football the way we have abd trying our hardest on the pitch. |
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Post by itsonlyagame on Sept 1, 2021 8:16:44 GMT
100% agree we should embrace promotion and all the money it brings. If Dickie keeps improving though, I don’t think going up would keep him here. The lure of doubling/trebling his wages at an established premier league club could understandably be too much.
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Post by BrightonR on Sept 1, 2021 8:30:35 GMT
If we go up, we were ready.
Just as we were ready to go down twice when we did.
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Post by alanwycombe on Sept 1, 2021 8:53:13 GMT
Apart from the possibility of the odd ‘Leicester’ the same teams will be winning everything for the foreseeable future. As a supporter of a proper club I’d be quite happy playing them every other year, upset one or two on a good day out, and rotating with the top of the Championship until we get some money in the club (not just the owners) and a decent ground. Don’t worry about next season until the summer.
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Post by alanwycombe on Sept 1, 2021 8:56:21 GMT
There are a number of teams developing into ‘Championship plus’ and we should be one of them. Watford really piss me off. No way they should eclipse us.
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Post by West Acton on Sept 1, 2021 9:03:34 GMT
100% agree we should embrace promotion and all the money it brings. If Dickie keeps improving though, I don’t think going up would keep him here. The lure of doubling/trebling his wages at an established premier league club could understandably be too much. would that make him a mercenary 😁 |
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Post by itsonlyagame on Sept 1, 2021 9:19:23 GMT
😆
I’d call him sensible but some might beg to differ.
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Post by Rangers77 on Sept 1, 2021 9:39:01 GMT
If we go up, we were ready. Just as we were ready to go down twice when we did. The table never lies, son. Great post by Corbray |
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Post by Corbray on Sept 1, 2021 9:56:04 GMT
100% agree we should embrace promotion and all the money it brings. If Dickie keeps improving though, I don’t think going up would keep him here. The lure of doubling/trebling his wages at an established premier league club could understandably be too much. going up would double his transfer fee though for sure. look at buendia to villa, cracking player yes but in no world is he worth 40m. |
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Post by itsonlyagame on Sept 1, 2021 11:04:28 GMT
100% agree we should embrace promotion and all the money it brings. If Dickie keeps improving though, I don’t think going up would keep him here. The lure of doubling/trebling his wages at an established premier league club could understandably be too much. going up would double his transfer fee though for sure. look at buendia to villa, cracking player yes but in no world is he worth 40m. I’d take promotion and BFD leaving for 40 million all day long 😆 |
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Sept 1, 2021 11:13:54 GMT
What championship team is ready? Fulham, WBA and Norwich proving that This. I've been guilty of being of the "no way are we ready for the prem" mindset but there's nothing wrong with going up and coming down richer. We just have to do things the right way this time and I'm confident we will. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 1, 2021 15:36:45 GMT
The mere fact that there's a thread on this and it's being taken seriously goes to show how far we've come since Warby's arrival.
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Post by The General on Sept 1, 2021 15:44:11 GMT
Were Burnley ready to go up ?
You have to try as the finacial side is crazy even if you dont stay up
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Post by Corbray on Sept 1, 2021 16:16:15 GMT
the dangerous thing to do is overspend on players when in the prem. so many sides go out and spend 20m+ plus ridiculous wages on some bang average player from the backarse of france and it rarely pays off.
if we do go up i hope we scout well and either bring in the best championship players from playoff sides or delve back into scotland. just get a team ready to put up a fight and come right back up as we ideally won't need a whole new side really.
brentford and burnley have done it right whereas fulham just spunk their money up the wall whenever they go into the prem
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Post by James1979 on Sept 1, 2021 16:35:22 GMT
The mere fact that there's a thread on this and it's being taken seriously goes to show how far we've come since Warby's arrival. I think we’d be ready to go up if our team was full of 40 year old “experienced” pros with contracts up at end of season. Phrases like “work in progress”, “long haul” bore me to death. Footballs about moments. Got to enjoy them when they come along. |
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Post by Shania on Sept 1, 2021 17:04:59 GMT
No problem with going up as far as I`m concerned :It`s more a question of how will we manage to maintain this year`s level of wages. It`s hopefully not about getting promoted or going bust?
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Post by Corbray on Sept 1, 2021 17:54:47 GMT
No problem with going up as far as I`m concerned :It`s more a question of how will we manage to maintain this year`s level of wages. It`s hopefully not about getting promoted or going bust? we won't, if we got promoted then i imagine our wage bill would go up, perhaps even double as its standard for players to have wage increases in their contracts along with bonuses. but we're a club that is fast gaining a reputation for developing players, arguebly one of the most reputable in the country infact. that in its own right will lure talented players looking to use our club as a springboard for their careers which will only be a good thing for us. the likes of dieng, dickie, chair, willock and dykes cost us a combined what ... 5m maybe?? with dieng and chair both being frees and "academy" players too. we could easily fetch 50m combined for them if not more. i don't think the club would be stupid to go out splashing 20m and 50k a week on new players but obviously transfer fees and wages would dramatically increase which would be fine given the huge money in the prem but not so much that we'd be in jeopardy if we get relegated. |
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Post by Shania on Sept 1, 2021 18:53:28 GMT
No problem with going up as far as I`m concerned :It`s more a question of how will we manage to maintain this year`s level of wages. It`s hopefully not about getting promoted or going bust? we won't, if we got promoted then i imagine our wage bill would go up, perhaps even double as its standard for players to have wage increases in their contracts along with bonuses. but we're a club that is fast gaining a reputation for developing players, arguebly one of the most reputable in the country infact. that in its own right will lure talented players looking to use our club as a springboard for their careers which will only be a good thing for us.the likes of dieng, dickie, chair, willock and dykes cost us a combined what ... 5m maybe?? with dieng and chair both being frees and "academy" players too. we could easily fetch 50m combined for them if not more. i don't think the club would be stupid to go out splashing 20m and 50k a week on new players but obviously transfer fees and wages would dramatically increase which would be fine given the huge money in the prem but not so much that we'd be in jeopardy if we get relegated. This is a valid point. One of many... |
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Post by spongeparr on Sept 2, 2021 12:46:50 GMT
No club is ready, as such. Norwich have just spent a load of dosh to stay up. Fulham has done it multiple times.
But what they are doing is setting the foundations to have a stronger team and you can build up from there. If we went up, we would possibly go down, but not guaranteed.
Shef utd got promoted with a 'league 1' team. They stayed up. Their problem was that their signings after that, weren't up to much.
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Post by shepherdsmush on Sept 5, 2021 10:47:53 GMT
Am quite happy flirting with the play-offs to be honest. Can't think of many Fulham fans I know that enjoyed last season.
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Post by West Acton on Sept 5, 2021 10:53:21 GMT
Am quite happy flirting with the play-offs to be honest. Can't think of many Fulham fans I know that enjoyed last season. but surely you just enjoy every other season going up and whilst your up have a proper go at the two cups After few years of bouncing you should be getting position where stronger |
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Post by shepherdsmush on Sept 5, 2021 10:59:08 GMT
Am quite happy flirting with the play-offs to be honest. Can't think of many Fulham fans I know that enjoyed last season. but surely you just enjoy every other season going up and whilst your up have a proper go at the two cups After few years of bouncing you should be getting position where stronger Most teams ignore the cups though as they concentrate on staying up.
I'm just saying at the moment, I'm happy thinking about possible top 6. If we start smashing it, THEN I'll be all over the promotion hype and hoping we can do a Burnley by keeping the faith in those who built the foundations.
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