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Post by Corbray on Oct 16, 2021 14:57:40 GMT
fulham were the better side simple as. we all expect fulham to be right up there at the end of the season and they showed why.
ball never should have started this game and i feel that amos could have given us more of an edge had he started.
desparately need a new RWB thats for sure.
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 16, 2021 15:06:45 GMT
They have a good manager too, which always helps. These Portuguese coaches are tactically astute.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Oct 16, 2021 15:13:43 GMT
By sounds of it, glad I’ve worked.
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Post by Rangers77 on Oct 16, 2021 15:14:26 GMT
Who would enjoy shooting fish in a barrel week after week??  |
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Post by Shania on Oct 16, 2021 15:16:42 GMT
It`s a pity that we sold Kane. Marginally better than our current 2 RWB's but an utter wanker of a man. My stance nontheless. They could have sorted the issues our with his teammates instead of sacking him. Anyway, it`s all history now... |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Oct 16, 2021 15:19:24 GMT
Still can’t be too disheartened, never win against Fulham. And work and cash is fucking amazing if you in the construction trade at moment 🍾
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Post by Shania on Oct 16, 2021 15:29:42 GMT
Still can’t be too disheartened, never win against Fulham. And work and cash is fucking amazing if you in the construction trade at moment 🍾 Can you build a defence?  |
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Post by Tarbie on Oct 16, 2021 16:21:06 GMT
Don't see many agreeing with this stance. Marginally better than our current 2 RWB's but an utter wanker of a man. My stance nontheless. They could have sorted the issues our with his teammates instead of sacking him. Anyway, it`s all history now... Can't fix someone being an arrogant Chelsea wanker Shania. I don't care if it weakened the squad ousting him, it was 100% the right decision. |
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Post by Shania on Oct 16, 2021 16:28:30 GMT
My stance nontheless. They could have sorted the issues our with his teammates instead of sacking him. Anyway, it`s all history now... Can't fix someone being an arrogant Chelsea wanker Shania. I don't care if it weakened the squad ousting him, it was 100% the right decision. Ok. In Warburton we trust! |
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Post by The General on Oct 16, 2021 17:42:59 GMT
Very disappointing today we never beat Fulham
However take it on the chin and move on
Better team won we were pretty crap
We definatly need someone else of quality in midfield another leader or "General"
It's like a knife through butter in that area
Another combative midfielder please as Ball is not good enough imho
Will be on mute for the rest of the evening now
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Post by The General on Oct 16, 2021 18:02:28 GMT
Ive come off mute for a bit
How long till Wallace / Field / Back
We really need these guys
Get fit Get on the pitch ffs
Taking too long wallace been out for weeks
Has he had a farking hysterectomy gods sake
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Post by 1973ranger on Oct 16, 2021 18:13:18 GMT
Better side won. Don’t think it was a 4-1 but can’t complain This is the problem when you defend like amateurs against a side with genuine Premier League quality up front. You get battered. Agree about the defending but none of those fuckers are genuine premier league quality. Until we sort out the right hand side we will carry on getting tonked |
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Post by 2Loftus on Oct 16, 2021 18:37:33 GMT
4-1... Fulham...  |
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 16, 2021 18:48:38 GMT
A word for Dykes’ goal in amongst all the gloom - great ball from Willock and well taken. He does have a lot to learn about the game still. Just before their second he was running on to goal with the ball and got caught easily by defender, slow down, tangle legs and we get a free kick instead of hit on the counter. Charlie does it all the time.
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Post by 1973ranger on Oct 17, 2021 8:07:06 GMT
Dykes took his goal well and Willocks ball was fantastic. Poor defending will hurt us and never allow us to progress
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 17, 2021 8:41:36 GMT
Our problem is a lack of pace all over the pitch. The possession play counters this but NOT when a team employs a high (and energetic) press against us. MW has done well to get a system that suits the players he has but when we are faced with the press like yesterday an original criticism of no plan B comes up again. What happened when Mitrovic closed down Dieng and his options left and right were also shut off? He launched it and it came straight back. So if they stop us playing the way we want - they’re doing their fucking job - find a different way. That’s when it’s not just the eleven on the pitch.
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Post by Shania on Oct 17, 2021 10:25:56 GMT
Forgive me for seing this match and it`s result in a somewhat broader contest, but to be honest I think that we should appreciate the fact that we are QPR and not Bury, Wigan, or even Newcastle for that matter. We are in a relatively good shape economically so In the end I think we will find a way to the land of defeats, draws and (perhaps) the odd victory.
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 17, 2021 10:32:52 GMT
Forgive me for seing this match and it`s result in a somewhat broader contest, but to be honest I think that we should appreciate the fact that we are QPR and not Bury, Wigan, or even Newcastle for that matter. We are in a relatively good shape economically so In the end I think we will find a way to the land of defeats, draws and (perhaps) the odd victory. Agree Shania that you can’t win every game but that doesn’t mean you accept that without trying to solve the problems an opponent gives you. |
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Post by Shania on Oct 17, 2021 12:28:41 GMT
Forgive me for seing this match and it`s result in a somewhat broader contest, but to be honest I think that we should appreciate the fact that we are QPR and not Bury, Wigan, or even Newcastle for that matter. We are in a relatively good shape economically so In the end I think we will find a way to the land of defeats, draws and (perhaps) the odd victory. Agree Shania that you can’t win every game but that doesn’t mean you accept that without trying to solve the problems an opponent gives you. So true, alanwycombe. It looked like we were not at the races at all last night. Not sure why that happens so often against Fulham etc, but imo we definitly need a plan B now as It was Silva who responded best after conceding the 1-1 goal last night. Maybe we should have gone for a diamond formation with more depth against Fulham? I would also have liked to see Kakay playing instead of Moses. Moses needs a rest now. He tend to forget his defensive duties to often. His distribution does also leave a lot to be desired. Not saying Kakay is much better, but he deserves a chance. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Oct 17, 2021 15:31:07 GMT
Most teams we will play won’t have anyone as good as mido up front for them, chillax🍷🍸🥃🍩 the doughnuts for tarbie
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Post by Hitman34 on Oct 17, 2021 17:59:41 GMT
I wonder if that Fankaty Dabo at Coventry could be bought in January? #getfuckerty |
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Post by Shania on Oct 17, 2021 18:52:55 GMT
Nathan Byrne at Derby is also a good fullback. Not sure which side he plays on..
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Post by Tarbie on Oct 17, 2021 19:26:53 GMT
He's a right back too Shania. He'd be ideal to be fair.
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Post by shepherdsmush on Oct 17, 2021 21:18:29 GMT
Roasted at right back all day yesterday....proper done us there. Made Wilson look like fucking Ronaldo.
Overall, no protection for the defence meant we were overrun time and time again. Hindsight is wonderful but Warbs was too arrogant going in that formation away from home against arguably the best attacking side in the division.
Hate Fulham with a a passion and thought we might nick something at 1-1 but imploded as we usually do down there.
Dust ourselves off, keep going and hopefully we can beat them at home.
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Post by spongeparr on Oct 18, 2021 9:33:14 GMT
Agree that Ball shouldn't have played this. He is very committed but Fulham aren't an aggressive team, so having someone better on the ball like Amos would have been the better play. Ball came onto the ball a few times and had a shocking first touch and then we were in trouble again. He runs around a lot, which actually leaves us open depsite the fact he is a defensive player.
Obvious from the 1st 10 minutes that it was going to be a long game. We stood off the players so much, we were scared to stick a foot in. Mitro needed clattering early doors, but we sat off and let him build his confidence.
We need a better RWB in January. Moses is better than Kakay but not great. We need a LWB as well, as we have 2 that are injury prone.
I like Johansen, but fuck me, what on earth was he doing in the tunnel before kick off? Who know's if it impacts how he plays, but hugging, kissing and laughing with everyone doesn't get you in the right mindset surely. He fouled someone and was then laughing with him on the pitch. Really annoyed me and I didn't like seeing that from the captain. Save it for after the game.
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 18, 2021 11:17:38 GMT
I like Johansen, but fuck me, what on earth was he doing in the tunnel before kick off? Who know's if it impacts how he plays, but hugging, kissing and laughing with everyone doesn't get you in the right mindset surely. He fouled someone and was then laughing with him on the pitch. Really annoyed me and I didn't like seeing that from the captain. Save it for after the game. Totally agree. Angered me seeing that. You don't laugh, joke and hug with your opponents as you're about to go into battle with them FFS. |
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Post by Rangers77 on Oct 18, 2021 12:11:17 GMT
Going to one in the middle, the underperforming Stefan, on a booking, didn't help combat Fulham's total midfield dominance.
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Post by Shania on Oct 18, 2021 12:14:47 GMT
This should have been a match with Dozzell and Stefan Johansen in midfield imo. With one of them sitting in front of the defence.
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Post by Shania on Oct 18, 2021 12:21:58 GMT
I like Johansen, but fuck me, what on earth was he doing in the tunnel before kick off? Who know's if it impacts how he plays, but hugging, kissing and laughing with everyone doesn't get you in the right mindset surely. He fouled someone and was then laughing with him on the pitch. Really annoyed me and I didn't like seeing that from the captain. Save it for after the game. Totally agree. Angered me seeing that. You don't laugh, joke and hug with your opponents as you're about to go into battle with them FFS. He was polite. But Ok, I guess I`m looking at it that way because I`m a Norwegian, I don`t know... |
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Post by Corbray on Oct 18, 2021 12:36:17 GMT
doesn't really bother me that stef was all buddy buddy with the fulham players. he spent 5 good years there and no doubt made some good friends.
stef is a model pro and i don't think anyone can question his professionalism. i doubt that he purposefully underperformed in the game to give fulham the edge.
its one of those things, probably shouldn't have done it but its not really a big deal imo.
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