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Post by Ginger Ninja on Apr 11, 2019 16:33:41 GMT
Seen whispers but nothing official of some kind of takeover possibly happening by the dudes that own PSG.
Anyone seen anything about that?
I mean, I don't think it's remotely likely, but even if it were to happen, we wouldn't be able to spend anything anyway, so what's the point?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 16:46:14 GMT
Moody sponsorship is the way forward Ginger.
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Post by hal9thou on Apr 11, 2019 16:55:48 GMT
Well, 'the dudes that own PSG' also own Manchester City ie Qatar PLC. For that reason alone, expanding their football portfolio in England would be massively complicated - to start with some other corporate entity would nominally need to hold the majority share.
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Post by Shania on Apr 11, 2019 17:16:19 GMT
I read somewhere that they are looking at Aston Villa, QPR and another sleeping giant: Nottingham Forest.
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 11, 2019 17:25:01 GMT
we're a small club with a proud history True enough Old, but OTOH it would be nice to at least compete on a level playing field which, at present, we are a long long way from. |
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Post by West Acton on Apr 11, 2019 17:55:07 GMT
Sounds like there looking for feeder club to loan kids reading between the lines
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 11, 2019 18:02:08 GMT
True enough Old, but OTOH it would be nice to at least compete on a level playing field which, at present, we are a long long way from. We have played less than 25 seasons in the top flight in our history of 132 years. If we're going to operate there again then the best thing we can do is to do it properly. Football is unrecognisable from the game we first encountered, but the fundamentals haven't changed: it's 11 men vs 11 men. Let's get our scouting system back to where it should be and do things the QPR way. It may take longer now than it would have done in the past but we'll get more pride and satisfaction out of it than we will if we buy a place. All fair points Old and yet on a recent poll 46 of our fans out of 50 voted FFP to be anything but 'Fair': www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/general/qpr-fans/2499574-poll-is-financial-fair-play-actually-fairWould you concur with any of their reasons given in that thread, or at least concede that something is markedly awry with the present system? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 18:06:14 GMT
City's owners are the Al Nahyan family from Abu Dhabi so not sure the city owners are looking to own another club. The Al Thani family for Qatar are the best bet for any takeover. Wishful thinking but that is the family we can hope for.
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 11, 2019 18:55:15 GMT
The only interest in us would be as prime West London real estate. Frying pan to fire. Careful what you wish for.
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Post by West Acton on Apr 11, 2019 19:29:02 GMT
Surely there are easier ways to get property and land in West London instead of buying a football club
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 11, 2019 20:01:56 GMT
If owners want to get shot we could be a bargain. No bargains in London for land.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 20:02:50 GMT
The Qatari's like a sporting project and have invested huge money into horse racing both by buying racehorses and sponsorship as well. Not out of the question that they would not buy a footba team in London. I am not sure it would be us though
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Post by West Acton on Apr 11, 2019 20:08:55 GMT
Yes maybe bargain to purchase but then football clubs are not cheap to run nor do many make money
These guys are minted if they want land they will just buy it in my opinion no need to do it via and burden themselves with a club too.
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Post by acricketer on Apr 11, 2019 20:52:56 GMT
I read somewhere that they are looking at Aston Villa, QPR and another sleeping giant: Nottingham Forest. It was on WATRB |
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 11, 2019 20:58:54 GMT
A well balanced view OldR. I think most of us can agree that the FFP misnomer in its current guise needs reform to the extent that it at least lives up to its name.
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Post by hal9thou on Apr 11, 2019 21:46:05 GMT
Just to clarify.
The Qatari football interest is vested in PSG, the UAE in City. Despite strained diplomatic relations, the two still hold investments in common...
Since the Al Thani (Qatar) interest is outside the UK they could aquire the majority shareholding in an EFL club. Uefa rules forbid two clubs in a European club competition, such as the Champions League or Europa League, being directly or indirectly controlled by the same entity. This would not be a problem if QSI bought a Championship club but if the club became successful, the Qataris might have to structure the ownership through a different vehicle than QSI.
Just not sure why we would be on that agenda - assuming it exists. The best reason would be a pre existing linkage between current and putative owners, and that is certainly possible, but it isn't a lot to be going on.
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Post by Brian Wilson on Apr 11, 2019 22:02:34 GMT
Qatar Park Rangers has a nice ring to it. Can build us a superbowl out near heathrow. Would rather be a standard lge 1 or 2 club.
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Post by acricketer on Apr 11, 2019 22:57:10 GMT
It must be the challenge of turning a league one club with an 18K capacity into OT; Bernabau; San Siro etc
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 12, 2019 8:30:36 GMT
Don't really think this rumour has legs to be honest. I believe it started purely out of speculation that the Qatari's may be looking to buy an English club.
People talking about FFP. One thing to bear in mind is the Qatari's own PSG. Whilst significant investment would be tough due to the FFP laws, free loans of emerging players would be very possible.
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Post by West Acton on Apr 12, 2019 8:42:14 GMT
Remember when the rumour was McLaren had a consortium ready to take us over
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 12, 2019 9:05:54 GMT
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Post by hubble on Apr 12, 2019 9:10:31 GMT
Wouldn't want them anywhere near our club.
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Post by jfrabbit on Apr 12, 2019 9:18:16 GMT
The only interest in us would be as prime West London real estate. Frying pan to fire. Careful what you wish for. This. Villa & Forest much better options on size of clubs. |
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 12, 2019 9:37:51 GMT
Interesting. Kind of makes sense. The Championship would be a good league to send a young player coming through the ranks. And they'll want a club without any immediate ambitions to be competitive at the top level to prevent any conflict of interests. |
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 12, 2019 9:39:51 GMT
Wouldn't want them anywhere near our club. For ethical reasons mate? Pretty horrible regime to be fair! |
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Post by hubble on Apr 12, 2019 9:43:20 GMT
Absolutely Tarbs.
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Post by hal9thou on Apr 12, 2019 11:19:25 GMT
Wouldn't want them anywhere near our club.
However, there is an argument that integrating oppressive regimes into Western culture has a liberalising effect. Then again, America has a problematic human rights record. Ethics is a bit of a minefield....
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Post by lymehoop on Apr 13, 2019 7:14:36 GMT
Location, location, location
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Post by hubble on Apr 13, 2019 7:59:53 GMT
Indeed Lymes.
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 13, 2019 10:36:16 GMT
Wouldn't want them anywhere near our club.
However, there is an argument that integrating oppressive regimes into Western culture has a liberalising effect. Then again, America has a problematic human rights record. Ethics is a bit of a minefield....
UAE are cleaning up there act a bit when it comes to ethics to be fair mate. Qatar are still miles behind. Money talks though, and these guys have bags of it! |
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