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Post by Bill on Oct 21, 2021 12:58:02 GMT
I have been critical of MW but overall he has done well.
I just wonder whether he can take us to the next level.
What do others think?
I know we hsve players to come back from injury and this should imptove the defence but we never look comfortable when ahead.
I still feel he(MW) needs to be less attack minded and control games better at crucial times in matches.
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Post by Corbray on Oct 21, 2021 13:10:03 GMT
as a championship standard manager he has to be one of the best around tbf to him. has his flaws but every manager does but on the face of it he's done wonders given the funds he has to work with.
i would say he's taken us to the next level every season too. 13th(?) in his first season and 9th last year. we sit 5th in the table currently on 21pts and if we continue as we are we should end the season on 72-74pts or so.
players have improved under him too, chair is a prime example and his signings have all been very astute.
i would say that the playoffs are the expectations of fans and the players too. even if we don't go up i reckon we'd be able to keep most of the squad together.
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 21, 2021 13:13:14 GMT
we never look comfortable when ahead. We also have a tendency to start slow, then only pick our game up when going behind. From that perspective the team spirit and belief is certainly there. he(MW) needs to be less attack minded I recall he's on record as saying part of his brief is to play entertaining football in the QPR tradition, as well as, obviously, to play winning football, instilling a winning mentality. control games better at crucial times in matches. We did seem to do this in the final 10 minutes of the Blackburn game, going to the corner flags, keeping possession etc, so perhaps he's starting to apply that more now. |
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Post by Tarbie on Oct 21, 2021 13:20:12 GMT
I reckon Premier League football under Warburton would be an utter bloodbath. We'd be drubbed every week defending the way we do!
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 21, 2021 13:29:14 GMT
I reckon Premier League football under Warburton would be an utter bloodbath. We'd be drubbed every week defending the way we do! Although it's also fair to assume the likes of Kakay and Odubajo would be replaced with better quality if we were to go up. So that's not totally down to Warburton as he's been working under a highly limited budget. I'm sure he would also recognise our weakness in that area. In that regard, January will be an interesting window to see if he at least attempts to address it. |
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Post by Corbray on Oct 21, 2021 13:48:27 GMT
I reckon Premier League football under Warburton would be an utter bloodbath. We'd be drubbed every week defending the way we do! it probably would be bad lol. but i reckon the club would still be thinking long term and would be realistic about our chances staying up. we'd still focus our recruitment on younger yet more promising players and use the premier league campaign as a way to bed in a side ready for promotion the next year. the likes of dieng, dickie, chair, willock and dykes could all be premier league players one day and i don't think barbet and johansen would be awful either tbh. |
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Post by The General on Oct 21, 2021 15:14:07 GMT
He plays football the way qpr fans want
We will conceed goals but enjoy the ride
If he didnt play like this he would be criticised
Im loving the season so far long may it continue
I feel like ive got my club back again after 10 yrs
Top five championship club is exactly what we are
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Post by West Acton on Oct 21, 2021 18:20:25 GMT
Good thread this.
I’m going give it some thought then jump in
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Oct 21, 2021 18:33:29 GMT
He plays football the way qpr fans want We will conceed goals but enjoy the ride If he didnt play like this he would be criticised Im loving the season so far long may it continue I feel like ive got my club back again after 10 yrs Top five championship club is exactly what we are Exactly my thinking. Totally agree. |
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Post by Bill on Oct 23, 2021 11:41:24 GMT
Some clarity by next level i mean becomming a Championship winning side.
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Post by acricketer on Oct 23, 2021 22:41:12 GMT
I think we'll hold our own in league 1.
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Post by James1979 on Oct 24, 2021 9:53:38 GMT
I think he’s been excellent for us. Not sure how long he has left on his contract but he should at least see it out. I don’t think he’ll take us up based on what I’ve seen this season. Partly because he’s a bit stubborn. I think we’ll probably be mid table under him which is good given where we were. Top 6 is a dream if we keep conceding. And like last season, his main argument when we concede 2, is that we should have scored 3. Makes it good to watch but won’t get you promoted.
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Post by Bill on Oct 30, 2021 14:39:43 GMT
Question answered he cant
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Post by Shania on Oct 30, 2021 14:49:29 GMT
Question answered he cant Ok, but who can?  That`s the problem. Next time, if he doesn`t succeed, I would like us to go for a continental coach. |
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Post by hal9thou on Oct 30, 2021 20:44:47 GMT
Question answered he cant Ok, but who can? That`s the problem. Next time, if he doesn`t succeed, I would like us to go for a continental coach. I've suggested plenty (most recent is managing to get a decent tune out of Wolves right now). Even with better players we'd get destroyed in the prem because you absolutely have to be organised and that's where the gaffer struggles. Saw a Vierra interview re Palace he basically said exactly that. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 31, 2021 7:51:30 GMT
Next level of fitness interests me. How come other teams aren’t ‘tired’? And if we blame a small squad why do we loan out fringe players? If they’re tired why doesn’t D-M get a game? Are we getting training, recovery, diet/nutrition right?
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Post by West Acton on Oct 31, 2021 8:15:21 GMT
Next level of fitness interests me. How come other teams aren’t ‘tired’? And if we blame a small squad why do we loan out fringe players? If they’re tired why doesn’t D-M get a game? Are we getting training, recovery, diet/nutrition right? how do you know this other then when your watching sides play us? Pretty bid statement based on one viewing of a team a season For record i thought forest tired massively second half hence why we came into it. First half they pressed us all over |
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 31, 2021 8:18:56 GMT
Next level of fitness interests me. How come other teams aren’t ‘tired’? And if we blame a small squad why do we loan out fringe players? If they’re tired why doesn’t D-M get a game? Are we getting training, recovery, diet/nutrition right? how do you know this other then when your watching sides play us? Pretty bid statement based on one viewing of a team a season For record i thought forest tired massively second half hence why we came into it. First half they pressed us all over Aren’t we no. 1 on the list of teams conceding late goals? |
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Post by West Acton on Oct 31, 2021 8:31:01 GMT
how do you know this other then when your watching sides play us? Pretty bid statement based on one viewing of a team a season For record i thought forest tired massively second half hence why we came into it. First half they pressed us all over Aren’t we no. 1 on the list of teams conceding late goals? honest answer no idea but don’t see the relevance Are you suggesting teams who are hyper fit don’t concede late goals?? If dunne was fitter would he have deflected header wide, if dickies was fitter would he not have got caught in possession in Bristol half with seconds left? If you genuinely think late goals are purely down to fitness and the management are of the same opinion we will be conceding late goals rest of season |
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 31, 2021 8:48:39 GMT
We haven’t been finishing games strongly and fitness and concentration go hand in hand in sport. Not being specific about freak instances in games like Dunne deflection but club is always moaning about the schedule and fatigue. If a professional can’t play twice a week without being fucked by November there’s something wrong. It’s not as if we play a high intensity game. We spend half the game knocking it about across the back line so there is plenty of opportunity for players to recover their composure and go again. Every week someone posts that some player or another doesn’t look fully fit. I think my point is fair enough.
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Post by West Acton on Oct 31, 2021 9:06:47 GMT
People posting players are unfit is simply an opinion don’t mean they are or are not.
If we (or other side) concede first minute is that fitness too?
Sides goal down last few minutes change style try get back in it. They lump it forward, they stick big CB up front, they throw men forward attack who would normally stay back. All this plays into late goals. Sometimes you see the barrage out sometimes you don’t it’s football
Do we concede more late goals then other teams? No bloody idea as don’t follow them. Our record could be better, worse or on par with others
Could fitness play a part yes partly suppose it can but it not the single reason
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 31, 2021 9:09:09 GMT
It was only a question.
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Post by Bill on Oct 31, 2021 20:02:00 GMT
People posting players are unfit is simply an opinion don’t mean they are or are not. If we (or other side) concede first minute is that fitness too? Sides goal down last few minutes change style try get back in it. They lump it forward, they stick big CB up front, they throw men forward attack who would normally stay back. All this plays into late goals. Sometimes you see the barrage out sometimes you don’t it’s football Do we concede more late goals then other teams? No bloody idea as don’t follow them. Our record could be better, worse or on par with others Could fitness play a part yes partly suppose it can but it not the single reason Well something is not right because we always look vulnerable,whether its fitness,lack of being able to control a game and not being able to see a gam out i dont know. What i do know is we are very rarely comfotable in a game due to not having the confidence to manage the game. Yes its great having an attacking side but defence is the first port of call in any successful team. |
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Post by hal9thou on Nov 1, 2021 10:24:54 GMT
There was a window under MW when, for a very short period, we defended coherently.
We weren't doing it before that and we're not doing it now. For me its that simple.
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That`s the problem. Next time, if he doesn`t succeed, I would like us to go for a continental coach.
