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Post by The General on Nov 20, 2021 18:49:33 GMT
We seem to allow the away teams many many shots at our goal
We will eventually pay badly for this , we've been very lucky so far
How can this be reduced , even Sunderland had many chances
It needs to be rectified some how maybe Field would help or a player in front of back 3
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Post by The General on Nov 20, 2021 18:51:52 GMT
3-1-4-2 Formation would this work with Field as a Makelele
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Post by The General on Nov 20, 2021 18:53:02 GMT
We need to stop the opposing teams having so many chances now going forward
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Post by awin on Nov 20, 2021 19:08:34 GMT
3-1-4-2 Formation would this work with Field as a Makelele Can’t play Chair AND Willock in that formation. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 20, 2021 19:25:50 GMT
3-1-4-2 Formation would this work with Field as a Makelele Can’t play Chair AND Willock in that formation. Unless you played with one up top. E.g: Dieng Dickie Dunne Barbet Field Adomah Johansen Wallace Chair Willock Gray |
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Post by The General on Nov 20, 2021 19:43:50 GMT
Can’t play Chair AND Willock in that formation. Unless you played with one up top. E.g: Dieng Dickie Dunne Barbet Field Adomah Johansen Wallace Chair Willock Gray This is the way forward for promotion We cannot carry on the way we are going |
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Post by The General on Nov 20, 2021 19:45:47 GMT
We need to be more solid its great to watch
But we have to be harder to break down
It was like target practise in the last 10 last night for Luton
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Post by The General on Nov 20, 2021 19:46:55 GMT
Def would play this formation away from home Matt
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Post by The General on Nov 21, 2021 12:53:42 GMT
Think it should be 3-5-2 at Home
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3-1-5-1 Away from home solid
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Post by spongeparr on Nov 21, 2021 18:23:06 GMT
Formation is fine but game management is shocking. All go forward and leave massive gaps all over. Then we are so slow to close the shots down near the box.
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Post by hal9thou on Nov 21, 2021 18:54:00 GMT
Formation is fine but game management is shocking. All go forward and leave massive gaps all over. Then we are so slow to close the shots down near the box. yeah the cover issue keeps raising its ugly head. Never got that right at Brentford either. |
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Post by West Acton on Nov 21, 2021 20:36:10 GMT
Formation is fine but game management is shocking. All go forward and leave massive gaps all over. Then we are so slow to close the shots down near the box. we were actually debating this exact point Friday. Dickies is the worst culprit |
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Post by West Acton on Nov 21, 2021 20:38:11 GMT
Formation is fine but game management is shocking. All go forward and leave massive gaps all over. Then we are so slow to close the shots down near the box. yeah the cover issue keeps raising its ugly head. Never got that right at Brentford either. I think part of that is simple common sense from players on pitch. If I’m dozell and I see dickies charge forward past me with ball I’m thinking I’m going sit I was taught that as a kid |
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Post by 1qprdk on Nov 21, 2021 22:31:24 GMT
yeah the cover issue keeps raising its ugly head. Never got that right at Brentford either. I think part of that is simple common sense from players on pitch. If I’m dozell and I see dickies charge forward past me with ball I’m thinking I’m going sit I was taught that as a kid Exactly. I see nothing wrong with CB bombing forward. Especially when you play 3 at the back. Just need midfield and WBs to be on their toes and cover. Should have 4 or at least 3 staying back at any time. Sometimes we have almost only 1, with both WBs + Barbie and Dickies on the move. |
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Post by spongeparr on Nov 22, 2021 16:20:46 GMT
This is the trouble though. Our WB will bomb on, but then the opposite flank will also go forward. Get an overlapping CB in the mix as well and before you know it, one ball and they are in behind.
When you play WB, it's harder to get cover. When its a 442 (or similar) and the lb/rb goes forward, the winger would normally be the one to cover but you don't get that natural cover in a 352.
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 22, 2021 16:34:36 GMT
you don't get that natural cover in a 352. Unless you use a dedicated DM who's sole role is to sit in front of and protect the back 3, as I mapped in the earlier post, and what the OP was suggesting. |
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Post by Corbray on Nov 22, 2021 17:23:20 GMT
you don't get that natural cover in a 352. Unless you use a dedicated DM who's sole role is to sit in front of and protect the back 3, as I mapped in the earlier post, and what the OP was suggesting. i've said it before but i actually think kakay could do a job at DM tbh. he's not great at RB but does have qualities that could be good at DM plus he has looked decent in a back 3 at times. he's pacey so could close people down and cover for our 3 CBs lack of pace. he's got a good slide tackle on him and works hard, at RB he is often exposed but in DM he would still have people to watch his back. he's good as the first line of defence and good on the ball, defo wouldn't mind giving him a try out there |
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Post by Bill on Nov 22, 2021 18:13:58 GMT
Formation is fine but game management is shocking. All go forward and leave massive gaps all over. Then we are so slow to close the shots down near the box. we were actually debating this exact point Friday. Dickies is the worst culprit You can say that again !!!!!! |
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Post by spongeparr on Nov 22, 2021 19:03:58 GMT
Unless you use a dedicated DM who's sole role is to sit in front of and protect the back 3, as I mapped in the earlier post, and what the OP was suggesting. i've said it before but i actually think kakay could do a job at DM tbh. he's not great at RB but does have qualities that could be good at DM plus he has looked decent in a back 3 at times. he's pacey so could close people down and cover for our 3 CBs lack of pace. he's got a good slide tackle on him and works hard, at RB he is often exposed but in DM he would still have people to watch his back. he's good as the first line of defence and good on the ball, defo wouldn't mind giving him a try out there Disagree on that one. His positioning is terrible which is what you need as a dm. Cant just be running like a headless chicken. Plus, passing and composure isn't good enough. |
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Post by hal9thou on Nov 22, 2021 19:16:28 GMT
yeah the cover issue keeps raising its ugly head. Never got that right at Brentford either. I think part of that is simple common sense from players on pitch. As a gaffer I'd never assume there was an ounce of common sense on the pitch, and with our lot you've got to say there's precious little evidence of it. Which means you have to coach them properly. |
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