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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 20, 2022 14:52:36 GMT
Not always a starter and we have gray, Austin and theoretically Armstrong. I doubt we’ll see Armstrong. We’ll send our youngster out on loan then bring someone else’s youngster in. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 20, 2022 16:05:36 GMT
We’ll send our youngster out on loan then bring someone else’s youngster in. Odd strategy that, isn't it?! 😂 |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 20, 2022 16:21:21 GMT
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 20, 2022 16:46:30 GMT
Jimmy saville had that as a tattoo
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 20, 2022 16:51:33 GMT
It was a serious point, but you always have to lower the tone, don't you  |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 20, 2022 16:53:24 GMT
Thank you
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Post by Tarbie on Jan 20, 2022 18:08:13 GMT
I think there are decent players available at this level in this window. A fair few clubs have financial issues and need to balance the books.
The problem is there are still clubs in our division spending silly money, and we seem to be getting priced out of some deals. Is what it is. I'm pretty sure we won't get drawn into panic buying or overpaying this window.
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 20, 2022 20:22:31 GMT
about Southgate rather than the kids. That fiasco was solely down to his decision making. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 20, 2022 23:17:55 GMT
about Southgate rather than the kids. That fiasco was solely down to his decision making. Sorry Hal, I wasn't referring to that. Was just concurring with the general point Alan was making that if they're good enough they're old enough. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jan 21, 2022 0:47:32 GMT
Duke has just gone to a non-league side (where our other great new hope Armstrong has also been). How many of our youngsters have really shone on loan (a couple have been sent back). Meanwhile our U23s have lost SIX games on the spin. Would just start to question whether this youth development lark is currently working as well as its cracked up to be - obvs Ramsey has done a great job developing some other players currently in our first team that we astutely picked up from elsewhere.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 21, 2022 7:27:33 GMT
All the best youngsters are at the big clubs,.
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Post by Corbray on Jan 21, 2022 9:00:03 GMT
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Post by spongeparr on Jan 21, 2022 9:05:17 GMT
He would be a great signing.
As for the good enough old enough line, maybe they aren't good enough yet? Though, I would love to see dukemckenna and Armstrong play. I think Bettache would actually do a job for us with the way we play, but with Field, Amos, Johannsen, Ball and Dozzell CM is well stocked.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 21, 2022 9:26:16 GMT
Can’t see us getting lickle tom
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Post by 2Loftus on Jan 21, 2022 9:48:16 GMT
Not getting too excited about this. If Bournemouth are in for him, I guess they can offer him more dosh and a higher chance of Premier League football next season than we can. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 21, 2022 9:48:34 GMT
He would be a great signing. As for the good enough old enough line, maybe they aren't good enough yet? Though, I would love to see dukemckenna and Armstrong play. I think Bettache would actually do a job for us with the way we play, but with Field, Amos, Johannsen, Ball and Dozzell CM is well stocked. Exactly the point I’ve been trying to make. My mate says trust MW because he sees them in training - ok, so Kelman, Bettache and Shodipo aren’t good enough, S D-M likewise, and he even forgot Masterson altogether when saying we only have 3 CBs. Presumably he’s written De Wijs off for the time being as it’s actually 5. So no one coming through then? If Armstrong is as good as he’s cracked up to be at least keep one youngster involved here. Play him before deciding to send him out. He might slot in straight away, how will we know? |
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 21, 2022 9:58:53 GMT
All the best youngsters are at the big clubs,. This is the point Hoos was making when he said he wants to make our academy a top choice for kids. Otherwise we’ll always be working with the ones who don’t make it elsewhere. Not sure how it works these days with clubs making offers to parents - I thought they stopped all that? |
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Post by buckshoop on Jan 21, 2022 10:11:54 GMT
this would be an massive signing... |
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Post by Corbray on Jan 21, 2022 10:34:11 GMT
Not getting too excited about this. If Bournemouth are in for him, I guess they can offer him more dosh and a higher chance of Premier League football next season than we can. depends if bournemouth can guarantee him first team football this season and next as if they go up they'll likely splash out a bit and provide more competition. imo he'd play far more with us than at bournemouth as if we end up getting promoted chair, willock and lawrence would be nailed down as our AM's and would rotate between them. would love it if we put a bid in for nathan byrne too. we could easily put a package together of say ... 1.5m-2m for the pair (lawrence contract is up in the summer) and kakay on loan with us covering his wages or something. it would surely be quite tempting for derby lol and we need a new RWB as even though adomah has done a stellar job there he's 33. moses and kakay have both been underwhelming too so we need a new RWB for next season anyway. |
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Post by spongeparr on Jan 21, 2022 10:59:02 GMT
He would be a great signing. As for the good enough old enough line, maybe they aren't good enough yet? Though, I would love to see dukemckenna and Armstrong play. I think Bettache would actually do a job for us with the way we play, but with Field, Amos, Johannsen, Ball and Dozzell CM is well stocked. Exactly the point I’ve been trying to make. My mate says trust MW because he sees them in training - ok, so Kelman, Bettache and Shodipo aren’t good enough, S D-M likewise, and he even forgot Masterson altogether when saying we only have 3 CBs. Presumably he’s written De Wijs off for the time being as it’s actually 5. So no one coming through then? If Armstrong is as good as he’s cracked up to be at least keep one youngster involved here. Play him before deciding to send him out. He might slot in straight away, how will we know? Tbf I am pretty sure he said that De Wijs has had injuries and he didn't mention Masterson as he had previously mentioned him going on loan elsewhere as his game time at Cambridge had reduced recently. |
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Post by Bill on Jan 21, 2022 11:00:59 GMT
He would be a great signing. As for the good enough old enough line, maybe they aren't good enough yet? Though, I would love to see dukemckenna and Armstrong play. I think Bettache would actually do a job for us with the way we play, but with Field, Amos, Johannsen, Ball and Dozzell CM is well stocked. Exactly the point I’ve been trying to make. My mate says trust MW because he sees them in training - ok, so Kelman, Bettache and Shodipo aren’t good enough, S D-M likewise, and he even forgot Masterson altogether when saying we only have 3 CBs. Presumably he’s written De Wijs off for the time being as it’s actually 5. So no one coming through then? If Armstrong is as good as he’s cracked up to be at least keep one youngster involved here. Play him before deciding to send him out. He might slot in straight away, how will we know? Exactly |
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 21, 2022 11:33:06 GMT
He would be a great signing. As for the good enough old enough line, maybe they aren't good enough yet? Though, I would love to see dukemckenna and Armstrong play. I think Bettache would actually do a job for us with the way we play, but with Field, Amos, Johannsen, Ball and Dozzell CM is well stocked. Exactly the point I’ve been trying to make. My mate says trust MW because he sees them in training - ok, so Kelman, Bettache and Shodipo aren’t good enough, S D-M likewise, and he even forgot Masterson altogether when saying we only have 3 CBs. Presumably he’s written De Wijs off for the time being as it’s actually 5. So no one coming through then? If Armstrong is as good as he’s cracked up to be at least keep one youngster involved here. Play him before deciding to send him out. He might slot in straight away, how will we know? which basically demonstrates how useless our recruitment is, and Chris Ramsey's ridiculously over hyped reputation as some kind of guru. It's got nothing to do with bigger clubs, which can be a turn off for youth and parents because of the massively high failure rate. Our scouting system has always sucked. Everything good that happens at the club happens in spite of, rather than because of. We've only had one decent owner in the last sixty years, and that was way back in the dark ages. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jan 21, 2022 12:21:48 GMT
Would be an amazing signing - imagine Willock, Chair and Lawrence in the same team (not sure how Stef would cope as the only holding midfielder further back but boy would that look exciting going forward)
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 21, 2022 12:39:21 GMT
Exactly the point I’ve been trying to make. My mate says trust MW because he sees them in training - ok, so Kelman, Bettache and Shodipo aren’t good enough, S D-M likewise, and he even forgot Masterson altogether when saying we only have 3 CBs. Presumably he’s written De Wijs off for the time being as it’s actually 5. So no one coming through then? If Armstrong is as good as he’s cracked up to be at least keep one youngster involved here. Play him before deciding to send him out. He might slot in straight away, how will we know? Tbf I am pretty sure he said that De Wijs has had injuries and he didn't mention Masterson as he had previously mentioned him going on loan elsewhere as his game time at Cambridge had reduced recently. If we are serious about staying in top six we need Masterson here. He looked decent when he first played, a bit naive but he’s young and he’s better than no cover at all. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jan 21, 2022 12:41:05 GMT
I would agree with that but then if he can't keep his place at Cambridge who are near the bottom of league 1 is he really good enough for a team pushing for promotion to the prem?
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 21, 2022 12:46:43 GMT
Back to the ‘are they actually any good?’ argument.
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Post by 1qprdk on Jan 21, 2022 12:49:13 GMT
Exactly the point I’ve been trying to make. My mate says trust MW because he sees them in training - ok, so Kelman, Bettache and Shodipo aren’t good enough, S D-M likewise, and he even forgot Masterson altogether when saying we only have 3 CBs. Presumably he’s written De Wijs off for the time being as it’s actually 5. So no one coming through then? If Armstrong is as good as he’s cracked up to be at least keep one youngster involved here. Play him before deciding to send him out. He might slot in straight away, how will we know? which basically demonstrates how useless our recruitment is, and Chris Ramsey's ridiculously over hyped reputation as some kind of guru. It's got nothing to do with bigger clubs, which can be a turn off for youth and parents because of the massively high failure rate. Our scouting system has always sucked. Everything good that happens at the club happens in spite of, rather than because of. We've only had one decent owner in the last sixty years, and that was way back in the dark ages. Getting in mood for the weekend? |
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Post by Corbray on Jan 21, 2022 12:50:52 GMT
set to bring oli burke in on loan from sheff utd... guess that means the lawrence deal is dead in the water!
poor signing imo, done nothing since his notts forest days aside from trick teams into signing him.
has pace but still shit
edit: reporters got it mixed up, he's going to millwall thank god!
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Post by Shania on Jan 21, 2022 13:15:37 GMT
Derby will not sell Tom Lawrence to QPR of all clubs. lol.
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Post by acricketer on Jan 21, 2022 13:24:34 GMT
Back to the ‘are they actually any good?’ argument. Do players raise their game if they play with better players and against better opposition? Can they sometimes be too good for the loan level they are playing at where their talents are not fully used or the players they are playing with can't bring the best out of them? Does a loan sometimes take confidence away?
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