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Post by Tarbie on Jan 10, 2022 9:51:36 GMT
Don't necessarily disagree with either of you Al and Bill. But there is a difference between going for it and taking stupid risks. I suspect we have a bit of money to spend but we are for sure carrying more high earners this season than we were last season.
I can almost guarantee you that some sides in this division will live to regret some of the transfers they are making at the moment.
I mean look at Bristol City. A few on here were up in arms when they outbid us on Wells. Fast forward a couple of years of them paying him 27k a week on top of a massive transfer fee for a very modest return in terms of goals and assists, and you have to say we were 100% correct to say the numbers on that transfer didn't make financial sense.
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Post by Hitman34 on Jan 10, 2022 10:04:05 GMT
Please, just please.
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Post by Tarbie on Jan 10, 2022 10:10:31 GMT
Wow. Can you imagine him in the Prem?
Ain't as down on him as some fans, but fuck me, he'd be like headless chicken against any Premier League standard defence.
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Post by spongeparr on Jan 10, 2022 10:21:56 GMT
I doubt they would go for him but I wouldn't be too upset if he went but not sure who we get to replace him. He offers us somehting different to Grey and Austin.
Think we would miss his work rate as well.
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 10, 2022 10:51:53 GMT
Don't necessarily disagree with either of you Al and Bill. But there is a difference between going for it and taking stupid risks. I suspect we have a bit of money to spend but we are for sure carrying more high earners this season than we were last season. I can almost guarantee you that some sides in this division will live to regret some of the transfers they are making at the moment. I mean look at Bristol City. A few on here were up in arms when they outbid us on Wells. Fast forward a couple of years of them paying him 27k a week on top of a massive transfer fee for a very modest return in terms of goals and assists, and you have to say we were 100% correct to say the numbers on that transfer didn't make financial sense. Agree Tarbs, my main point is about thinking we’ll be better placed next season. We will probably have some money in the bank but chances are we’ll be starting over again as a team. Look at last season - mostly shit for the first half then out of contention by the time it all took shape.
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 10, 2022 10:58:03 GMT
I doubt they would go for him but I wouldn't be too upset if he went but not sure who we get to replace him. He offers us somehting different to Grey and Austin. Think we would miss his work rate as well. Don’t get the work rate argument sponge, you’ve got to achieve something not just get a sweat on. Has been said before on here by me and others that if he doesn’t score he contributes nothing. I don’t think that’s far wrong. This season can also be said of Charlie. Gray does at least put himself about a bit.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 10, 2022 11:31:42 GMT
That's the Comoros league, isn't it? In which case would be about his level!
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Post by Corbray on Jan 10, 2022 11:32:11 GMT
lots of interest in dykes from prem clubs.
would be utterly devestated if he left us at this stage, he's the best striker we've had since sir les. actually i'll go one further and say what we're all too afraid to say, he's BETTER than sir les ever was and has scored far more goals for scotland than ferdinand ever did.
it'll take a sizeable fee to prize our greatest striker in 30 years away but i reckon 10 million would be an absolute steal for someone who's never lost a game in the prem.
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Post by Bill on Jan 10, 2022 11:36:37 GMT
lots of interest in dykes from prem clubs. would be utterly devestated if he left us at this stage, he's the best striker we've had since sir les. actually i'll go one further and say what we're all too afraid to say, he's BETTER than sir les ever was and has scored far more goals for scotland than ferdinand ever did. it'll take a sizeable fee to prize our greatest striker in 30 years away but i reckon 10 million would be an absolute steal for someone who's never lost a game in the prem. Love this post
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Post by Corbray on Jan 10, 2022 11:36:38 GMT
Don't necessarily disagree with either of you Al and Bill. But there is a difference between going for it and taking stupid risks. I suspect we have a bit of money to spend but we are for sure carrying more high earners this season than we were last season. I can almost guarantee you that some sides in this division will live to regret some of the transfers they are making at the moment. I mean look at Bristol City. A few on here were up in arms when they outbid us on Wells. Fast forward a couple of years of them paying him 27k a week on top of a massive transfer fee for a very modest return in terms of goals and assists, and you have to say we were 100% correct to say the numbers on that transfer didn't make financial sense. pretty much this. i'd rather not go up this year, cash in on our assets and reinvest it wisely next year than spunk 10 million up the wall on a dream that could become a nightmare. in todays market we could easily bring in 40-50mil on our top players if the right bidding war starts. lots of top championship players are out of contract next year so it wouldn't be hard to entice some of them here and have a real go for it next year with a more established squad whilst still having money in the bank. it worked out excellently for brentford and as much as it pains me to say this, they're well on course for a midtable season and likely a long spell in the prem.
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Post by Bill on Jan 10, 2022 11:45:00 GMT
With respect i dont think there is a cat in hells chance us spending 10 mill even if we had it,got the t-shirt and all that.
However if the chance is there as it would appear to be, you have to try your best both on and off the pitch with resources that are available.
Yes its balancing act but is that not what the board are there for.
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 10, 2022 11:47:48 GMT
If at all possible I’d rather go up THIS season, make loads of money AND KEEP Chair and Willock. Win, win. Got to grab chances when they come along. Not suggesting we splash millions but only had to watch Ball and Georginho the other day to realise there’s not much behind the first 12/14 outfield players.
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Post by 2Loftus on Jan 10, 2022 11:51:19 GMT
Yes its balancing act but is that not what the board are there for. Exactly that... but so many boards get it disastrously wrong. Our current board seems to have learned lessons and have been doing extremely well over the last few years - long may it continue.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 10, 2022 11:56:29 GMT
If at all possible I’d rather go up THIS season Naturally. I hear all the arguments against this but they make no rational sense to me. So are we now supposed to deliberately lose some games because we don't want to go up this year?
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 10, 2022 12:04:15 GMT
If at all possible I’d rather go up THIS season Naturally. I hear all the arguments against this but they make no rational sense to me. So are we now supposed to deliberately lose some games because we don't want to go up this year? Exactly Stan, the only plan should be to win games. If you do you go up. And I hate this argument that a team isn’t good enough for the higher league - that’s irrelevant until you get there. We’ve got a chance.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 10, 2022 12:12:40 GMT
I hate this argument that a team isn’t good enough for the higher league It's not that I hate the argument, I just don't understand it, Al. You've proved you're good enough by achieving promotion. Then once you're there it's a separate challenge about how best to remain there. Although I do agree that Brentford's "Moneyball Model" appears the most effective long term strategy. Lessons can be learnt from Leicester, Southampton, Brighton and Palace's approaches too, in their cures to the yoyo effect.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 10, 2022 12:34:26 GMT
If we got 10 million for dykes I’d expect hoos and les to go down for at least a 10-15 stretch for outright robbery
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Post by West Acton on Jan 10, 2022 13:27:52 GMT
Don't necessarily disagree with either of you Al and Bill. But there is a difference between going for it and taking stupid risks. I suspect we have a bit of money to spend but we are for sure carrying more high earners this season than we were last season. I can almost guarantee you that some sides in this division will live to regret some of the transfers they are making at the moment. I mean look at Bristol City. A few on here were up in arms when they outbid us on Wells. Fast forward a couple of years of them paying him 27k a week on top of a massive transfer fee for a very modest return in terms of goals and assists, and you have to say we were 100% correct to say the numbers on that transfer didn't make financial sense. spot on
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Post by Shania on Jan 10, 2022 13:33:47 GMT
We are after a RWB named Giles alledgedly. A young quick player from Wolves who impressed while on loan at Cardiff. 9 assists so far. Mainly played on the left though.Ok. Thank you, spongeparr.
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Post by Bill on Jan 10, 2022 14:50:54 GMT
If we got 10 million for dykes I’d expect hoos and les to go down for at least a 10-15 stretch for outright robbery He is definitely worth 20 bags
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 10, 2022 15:33:18 GMT
Breaking news, the top6 in the prem have not been linked with the Aussie mule, but palarse now have.
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Post by acricketer on Jan 10, 2022 16:33:58 GMT
If at all possible I’d rather go up THIS season Naturally. I hear all the arguments against this but they make no rational sense to me. So are we now supposed to deliberately lose some games because we don't want to go up this year? And then sack the manager for not winning enough!
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 10, 2022 17:09:12 GMT
Have the club lost their debit card? Cos they not spending in the window yet.
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Post by West Acton on Jan 10, 2022 17:16:51 GMT
This would be sensible if a loan
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 10, 2022 18:12:19 GMT
Naturally. I hear all the arguments against this but they make no rational sense to me. So are we now supposed to deliberately lose some games because we don't want to go up this year? And then sack the manager for not winning enough! I doubt we’d do that again. That is where realism has to come in.
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Post by West Acton on Jan 10, 2022 18:45:27 GMT
And then sack the manager for not winning enough! I doubt we’d do that again. That is where realism has to come in. you wanted him gone last season Al
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 10, 2022 19:36:56 GMT
I doubt we’d do that again. That is where realism has to come in. you wanted him gone last season Al Plenty did. Club saved him last Jan. I doubt he’d be good enough for Prem but we got it wrong getting rid of Warnock, it ended up creating more problems.
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Post by 1qprdk on Jan 10, 2022 19:39:32 GMT
I doubt we’d do that again. That is where realism has to come in. you wanted him gone last season Al Tbf we all did around Christmas. Even me ffs.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 10, 2022 20:07:05 GMT
Fuck wanting folk gone,i want some in,in a non gay anal sex way.
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Post by 1qprdk on Jan 10, 2022 20:29:43 GMT
Fuck wanting folk gone,i want some in,in a non gay anal sex way. Thanks for setting that straight in such explicit yet eloquent language.
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