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Post by dunraven on Apr 18, 2019 10:18:32 GMT
Says Jim White. Tune in
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Post by dunraven on Apr 18, 2019 10:32:52 GMT
"My role is to advise, my advice isn't always taken. I understand and accept that, we make decisions as a collective"
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Post by Hitman34 on Apr 18, 2019 11:01:49 GMT
So wtf is he doing with a dof title.
This club are always moving the goalposts when things go wrong.
Now he is a farking adviser.... Give me a break ffs.
The board are all smoke and mirrors, no one wants responsibility for the farkups every season.
#aof #noonelistenstome #ijustgiveanopinion #notmyfault #imjustandadvisor #advisoroffootball #lookatmylovelysmile
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 18, 2019 11:18:05 GMT
"My role is to advise, my advice isn't always taken. I understand and accept that, we make decisions as a collective" But aren't you supposed to be the 'boss'? If by collective you actually mean 'committee' then no wonder we're in a mess.
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Post by dunraven on Apr 18, 2019 11:21:10 GMT
Hits, I don't want to slaughter him but he also uttered "moving forward" and "holistic". If I'd listened to any more of that crap i would've been late for my Empowerment and Inclusivity meeting
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Apr 18, 2019 11:21:34 GMT
I can't see a lot wrong with what he says there.
Unless, you are particularly looking to find fault I guess.
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Post by dunraven on Apr 18, 2019 11:35:59 GMT
Not really, croydon, but the office buzz words did irk me a bit. Just a personal thing
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 18, 2019 12:26:13 GMT
"My role is to advise, my advice isn't always taken. I understand and accept that, we make decisions as a collective" Comments like this just reaffirm what I've suspected for a while. The structure behind the scenes isn't what it should be. Since when has a Director's role been to advise? The clue is in the job title, his role should be to direct. Why does Tony employ Les if his opinion on footballing matters is often ignored or overruled?
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Post by James1979 on Apr 18, 2019 13:24:53 GMT
Who picked Jimmy? Or is he trying to deflect that too. JFH was the worst manager we’ve had since Paul Hart.
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Post by dunraven on Apr 18, 2019 14:07:56 GMT
I'm sure there were some 'read between the lines' in his comments but what they inferred I don't know... "I want Tim but the majority don't fancy him"? "Shouldn't have sacked Holloway"??
He did say it was basically a show of hands vote from those in the collective for these sort of matters - the hiring of a manager in particular. That's what I took from the interview anyway
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Post by hubble on Apr 18, 2019 14:47:08 GMT
"My role is to advise, my advice isn't always taken. I understand and accept that, we make decisions as a collective" And for that, he gets paid a fat wage to be director of football. They could just phone him up now and then for advice. I think we need Fernandes and all his appointees out of our club ASAP.
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Post by dunraven on Apr 18, 2019 15:02:44 GMT
"My role is to advise, my advice isn't always taken. I understand and accept that, we make decisions as a collective" And for that, he gets paid a fat wage to be director of football. They could just phone him up now and then for advice. I think we need Fernandes and all his appointees out of our club ASAP. In the way some clubs have a 'fan on the board' and the like, his own description of his role came across as that of an 'ex-pro on the board' rather than an actual DOF. And who can blame him for taking home, what I assume to be, relatively fat wedge for an advisory position
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Post by West Acton on Apr 18, 2019 15:27:22 GMT
Who picked Jimmy? Or is he trying to deflect that too. JFH was the worst manager we’ve had since Paul Hart. holloway
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 18, 2019 15:50:41 GMT
This is bizarre. In commerce or industry a director undermined and out voted would resign or his/her credibility would be shot. This drives a coach and horses through the DOF theory as far as QPR is concerned. It would be interesting for the unconvinced like me to see what it would work like if we really did have a DOF.
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 18, 2019 16:03:01 GMT
A consultancy / advisory role really...DoF in name only. Doesn't quite add up though because we were always told he's the one that deals with agents and players' salary and contract negotiations....
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Post by BrightonR on Apr 18, 2019 16:10:33 GMT
This thread seems to be justifying the view I’ve always maintained. Without knowing what exactly he is responsible for, it’s hard to make an accurate assessment of how he is performing. We can all have a guess as to what we think being DOF at QPR should mean, but I suspect with the current owners, the reality is somewhat different.😄
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 18, 2019 16:11:29 GMT
A consultancy / advisory role really...DoF in name only. Doesn't quite add up though because we were always told he's the one that deals with agents and players' salary and contract negotiations.... We've also always been told he's the one that deals with player signings as an interface between the manager and the board. So if the manager needs a new LB, Les' job is too find one (via the scouts) that falls within the club's budget.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Apr 18, 2019 16:14:09 GMT
So much speculation based on a couple of comments. Jeez.
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 18, 2019 16:19:20 GMT
So much speculation based on a couple of comments. Jeez. I think the fans have a right to question the structure at the club mate. I mean it can't be the fault every manager that's been here since Tony took over that we've basically underachieved every season. Massively underachieved in all but 1 actually. If Les wants to spill the beans publicly about the inner workings of the club he should expect disgruntled fans to dissect his comments.
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 18, 2019 16:23:31 GMT
So much speculation based on a couple of comments. Jeez. He's probably made the comments publicly for a reason though CCJ.
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Post by dunraven on Apr 18, 2019 16:34:41 GMT
So much speculation based on a couple of comments. Jeez. He's probably made the comments publicly for a reason though CCJ. Aye, this wasn't a spur of the moment interview - maybe he's frustrated he's not getting the power he wants/deserves
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 18, 2019 16:41:07 GMT
Unless we're reading too much into it: QPR are in the hunt for a new manager. Les is the DoF Ergo TalkSport want to do an interview. Sounds perfectly reasonable to me! Did he fancy using the opportunity to get a couple of things off his chest? Well sure, it's perfectly possible.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Apr 18, 2019 19:14:25 GMT
Well on the plus side it it means we haven't got Gilet man, that will please most of us at least he!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2019 19:32:23 GMT
But we may end up with the face of Greggs! Bircham!
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Post by West Acton on Apr 18, 2019 19:36:34 GMT
Well on the plus side it it means we haven't got Gilet man, that will please most of us at least he! this can’t be true some have already spilt tears, slated the club and bet there life savings on him getting it
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 18, 2019 22:41:02 GMT
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Post by acricketer on Apr 18, 2019 22:51:33 GMT
I think he could just open his mouth and people would fill it with their conspiracies, prejudices and inanities.
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Post by dunraven on Apr 19, 2019 7:54:36 GMT
I think he could just open his mouth and people would fill it with their conspiracies, prejudices and inanities. It's much ado about nothing. But that's enough about Les' job what about the interview. Boom boom
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Post by jfrabbit on Apr 19, 2019 8:09:37 GMT
"My role is to advise, my advice isn't always taken. I understand and accept that, we make decisions as a collective" Comments like this just reaffirm what I've suspected for a while. The structure behind the scenes isn't what it should be. Since when has a Director's role been to advise? The clue is in the job title, his role should be to direct. Why does Tony employ Les if his opinion on footballing matters is often ignored or overruled? Overruled to the point of the media man virtually getting Hollowhead the job!
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