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Post by 1qprdk on Apr 15, 2022 18:52:28 GMT
He's a fucking donkey mate. Gray scores that every day of the week. Don't understand why Gray wasn't on from the start. Neither Dykes nor Gray do anything to support the team but at least Gray might score whereas Dykes you just hardly notice he is there. I don't understand what's happened to Dykes - whatever people say about his technical limitations, when he first came to the club he was one of the hardest working players out there. Now just seems to stroll about. Chaz told him a couple of things about the strikers job. He didn't get it really, because it only worked for a couple of months and then he forgot how to work. |
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 15, 2022 18:52:46 GMT
I'm pretty sure from both what I've heard and Warburton's quotes in the press that his contract doesn't renew if we don't reach play offs. As such, he's gone soon enough anyway. Don't see the point of him throwing the towel in now though. We should have pushed the button 4 or 5 games ago when we still had a chance of salavaging play offs. Now we haven't, doesn't really make fuck all difference what happens in the next 4 games. Unless we can land a Manager for next season early. That`s why he should have been forced to walk before season ends. A new manager would get the chance to assess the squad during the 4 last matches. That only works if the Manager we want is available Shania. |
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 15, 2022 18:54:41 GMT
Don't understand why Gray wasn't on from the start. Neither Dykes nor Gray do anything to support the team but at least Gray might score whereas Dykes you just hardly notice he is there. I don't understand what's happened to Dykes - whatever people say about his technical limitations, when he first came to the club he was one of the hardest working players out there. Now just seems to stroll about. He is trying desperately to keep his so called fitness for his big chance on the big stage WC with Scotland. No not toilet World Cup Wouldn't surprise me if Dykes prefers playing for Scotland a lot more than playing for us. Square peg in a round hole in our system. Not defending him. He's a lazy prick. But at least Scotland play a style of football that caters a bit better to Dykes' attributes. |
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Post by Shania on Apr 15, 2022 18:58:54 GMT
That`s why he should have been forced to walk before season ends. A new manager would get the chance to assess the squad during the 4 last matches. That only works if the Manager we want is available Shania. I wonder who sat next to Sir Les this evening. It could be the next manager, but who knows. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Apr 15, 2022 19:01:57 GMT
That`s why he should have been forced to walk before season ends. A new manager would get the chance to assess the squad during the 4 last matches. That only works if the Manager we want is available Shania. Absolutely. Look at Burnley. Sack Dyches. Now the two favourites to replace him are Fat Sam and Ole. I know which one of the three I would prefer to have if I were Burnley, the one they have just sacked. |
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 15, 2022 19:05:13 GMT
That only works if the Manager we want is available Shania. Absolutely. Look at Burnley. Sack Dyches. Now the two favourites to replace him are Fat Sam and Ole. I know which one of the three I would prefer to have if I were Burnley, the one they have just sacked. Fat Sam for 8 games is just a gamble ain't it? Last roll of the dice. Short term contract and a big bonus if he keeps them up. Don't see the harm in it if I'm right. They were going down under Dyche, virtually no difference in cost to sacking him now or in the summer. Will cost them a few hundred thousand if Big Sam don't keep them up. Worthwhile punt, not much to lose. |
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Post by sparks on Apr 15, 2022 19:10:31 GMT
That only works if the Manager we want is available Shania. Absolutely. Look at Burnley. Sack Dyches. Now the two favourites to replace him are Fat Sam and Ole. I know which one of the three I would prefer to have if I were Burnley, the one they have just sacked. Don’t you think managers have a shelf life same as players,Dyche has been there 10 years. |
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Post by The General on Apr 15, 2022 19:11:41 GMT
We have to get Sean Dyche in asap
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 15, 2022 19:17:32 GMT
There is nothing left in this team. Nothing. Just literally walking about the pitch, passing sideways. He has to go tonight on the beach. Safe from relegation and and know no chance of play offs Defo need review mentality of this lot close season And it's the manager's responsibility to inspire and instil that. |
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Post by Shania on Apr 15, 2022 19:19:25 GMT
Warburton`s fan club "LoftForWords" are over the moon now we`ve got a point.
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 15, 2022 19:21:01 GMT
Dykes has to be fucked out of the club. Wow. utter garbage offers nothing. He could score hat trick in what remains and it changes nothing guys is total shit don’t know what people saw in him earlier in season Perhaps Dyche could get a tune out of Dykes :-) |
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 15, 2022 19:22:09 GMT
We have to get Sean Dyche in asap I'd make a cheeky enquiry. I think he's the right sort of Manager to deal with the challenges we have at the club. Don't have any confidence that he'd fancy it, or that we could afford him. Don't think you could knock him if his stall was set a little higher. I also dunno about the Lee Hoos situation. I think it was Brighton who correctly pointed out this week that there was a bit if friction between Dyche and Hoos at Burnley many years back. I've met Hoos, he's a nice guy. I couldn't definitely see him rubbing people up the wrong way though. Yank, position of authority, not much genuine football knowledge, albeit probably loads of smarts when it comes to football finances. |
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 15, 2022 19:24:26 GMT
utter garbage offers nothing. He could score hat trick in what remains and it changes nothing guys is total shit don’t know what people saw in him earlier in season Perhaps Dyche could get a tune out of Dykes :-) Bit of Dyche on Dykes action Stan? Suits you sir! |
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 15, 2022 19:31:05 GMT
Can blame manager Tarbs but there is also thing of personal pride Manager gives tactics, they might be wrong but none of those tactics will involve Dunne being a cunt and not clearing ball that’s simply personal responsibility I agree with you up to a point. However it's still ultimately the manager's responsibility to set the example and instil the right ethic into his players, which includes taking personal pride in their performances. Yes agreed you can never legislate for individual errors like Dunne's, but there's clearly more deep-rooted problems in the camp than that IMO. |
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Post by Shania on Apr 15, 2022 19:33:50 GMT
Apart from a few woeful passes Dozzell played quite well tonight. He is one I would like to see attack better and more next season - If he`s still at the club or not going out on loan of course.
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Post by Timmy Doc on Apr 15, 2022 19:38:01 GMT
Warburton`s fan club "LoftForWords" are over the moon now we`ve got a point. Must be intelligent posters there. |
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 15, 2022 19:49:02 GMT
Can blame manager Tarbs but there is also thing of personal pride Manager gives tactics, they might be wrong but none of those tactics will involve Dunne being a cunt and not clearing ball that’s simply personal responsibility I agree with you up to a point. However it's still ultimately the manager's responsibility to set the example and instil the right ethic into his players, which includes taking personal pride in their performances. Yes agreed you can never legislate for individual errors like Dunne's, but there's clearly more deep-rooted problems in the camp than that IMO. Missed Westy's earlier response on this one. I agree Stan, can pick the bones out of performances and find individual errors, bad luck, refereeing mistakes and whatever else you want to use as an excuse. It may work as well in terms of accounting for individual performances. In the long run though, if the same issues are happening time and time again and the same excuses keep getting pulled out the bag you need to look at who's leading the ship. It's the same in every walk of life. Of course, you have the argument here whether the buck stops in the dugout or the boardroom. But we are far from the only club with that conundrum. However you dress is it up, 5 games lost on the trot when we were genuinely in the hunt for promotion is a failure for me. And I don't have the faith in the Manager anymore to pass it off as bad luck or even something he knows how to resolve. He's an inconsistent Manager with huge limitations and it's 100% time to try a different approach. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 15, 2022 19:52:02 GMT
Happy with that, much much better. Good point 👍 The trouble is it's too little too late, right? |
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Post by Rangers77 on Apr 15, 2022 19:52:18 GMT
Still like Warburton. Decent guy, far too loyal to his players, too stubborn, too ready to stick when he should twist.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Apr 15, 2022 20:10:38 GMT
Happy with that, much much better. Good point 👍 The trouble is it's too little too late, right? Not for a top 10 finish, which is a bit of a come down given where we've been all season. But stopping the losing run was important. |
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Post by gator on Apr 15, 2022 20:11:15 GMT
I really didn't expect anything from this match which isn't exactly going out on a limb after losing 5 on the trot, it turned out to be an entertaining match and the goals we scored reminded me of how we were playing at one time, it looked like we might nick it like we did in a bunch of matches early on! It is hard to say what the difference was today, formation, players picked or just odds catching up and us due a result, where was this the last several matches?
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Post by Shania on Apr 15, 2022 20:26:17 GMT
Warburton`s fan club "LoftForWords" are over the moon now we`ve got a point. Must be intelligent posters there. You would fit right in there. |
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 15, 2022 20:38:59 GMT
I really didn't expect anything from this match which isn't exactly going out on a limb after losing 5 on the trot, it turned out to be an entertaining match and the goals we scored reminded me of how we were playing at one time, it looked like we might nick it like we did in a bunch of matches early on! It is hard to say what the difference was today, formation, players picked or just odds catching up and us due a result, where was this the last several matches? Great to see you here Gator. How you doing? |
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Post by gator on Apr 15, 2022 20:46:37 GMT
I really didn't expect anything from this match which isn't exactly going out on a limb after losing 5 on the trot, it turned out to be an entertaining match and the goals we scored reminded me of how we were playing at one time, it looked like we might nick it like we did in a bunch of matches early on! It is hard to say what the difference was today, formation, players picked or just odds catching up and us due a result, where was this the last several matches? Great to see you here Gator. How you doing? Cheers Tarbie! All is good here, just chilling out on a holiday watching the fools lose, I hope you are doing well! |
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 15, 2022 20:51:00 GMT
Fair play mate. Mad to see your Avatar pop up here after 3 years, how did that one come about?
I'd assumed we'd managed to get hold of any WATRB's regulars who wanted to be here.
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Post by gator on Apr 15, 2022 20:57:42 GMT
Fair play mate. Mad to see your Avatar pop up here after 3 years, how did that one come about? I'd assumed we'd managed to get hold of any WATRB's regulars who wanted to be here. I didn't even know about this board until recently, I wondered where everyone had gone and apparently never got the email  I have never had an issue with anyone at WATRB and have posted there for years, it is just too quiet most of the time! I look forward to interacting with some old friends such as yourself here!👍 |
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Post by Rangers77 on Apr 15, 2022 21:02:49 GMT
Must be intelligent posters there. You would fit right in there. Think Timmy fits in here brilliantly. |
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Post by Shania on Apr 15, 2022 21:05:39 GMT
You would fit right in there. Think Timmy fits in here brilliantly. When being trolled I respond, wouldn`t you? Edit: That`s excatly what I shouldn`t do. |
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Post by itsonlyagame on Apr 15, 2022 21:08:49 GMT
Absolutely. Look at Burnley. Sack Dyches. Now the two favourites to replace him are Fat Sam and Ole. I know which one of the three I would prefer to have if I were Burnley, the one they have just sacked. Fat Sam for 8 games is just a gamble ain't it? Last roll of the dice. Short term contract and a big bonus if he keeps them up. Don't see the harm in it if I'm right. They were going down under Dyche, virtually no difference in cost to sacking him now or in the summer. Will cost them a few hundred thousand if Big Sam don't keep them up. Worthwhile punt, not much to lose. Not so sure. As you say, almost certain to go down no matter who takes over so surely it’s about looking more medium term as in who will get them up again. Personally I think they’ll regret their decision big time but only time will tell. |
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 15, 2022 21:11:53 GMT
Clearly the Burnley board decided it was time for a change Itso. The timing for me looks like a roll of the dice for a few games to try to keep them up. I could be wrong though. Maybe the Manager they want long term is available now and they just decided to get it done now, on the off chance he can pull off the great escape.
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I have never had an issue with anyone at WATRB and have posted there for years, it is just too quiet most of the time! I look forward to interacting with some old friends such as yourself here!👍
