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Post by Stanley75 on May 14, 2022 15:43:55 GMT
We have an excellent spine:
Dieng *
Dunne
Amos
Willock
Gray **
Johansen ***
The right manager could build another team around that lot to challenge again next season
* assuming he stays
** assuming he stays and is played
*** assuming he gets his fitness back
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Post by Corbray on May 14, 2022 15:49:04 GMT
i think dickie and chair could arguebly be added to that list tbh.
dickie wasn't at his best but was still pretty good imo, better than some of the dross we've had in years lol.
same with chair, 9 goals for a player only 8 inches tall is pretty good. if he can release the ball earlier then he'd be a great player at this level
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Post by Shania on May 14, 2022 15:53:29 GMT
Chair and Dickie left out? That`s a bit harsh.
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Post by Stanley75 on May 14, 2022 15:58:04 GMT
Chair and Dickie left out? That`s a bit harsh. That proves my point even more then Shania! So in your opinion it makes us even stronger and even more reason to be optimistic. |
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Post by Ginger Ninja on May 14, 2022 16:35:13 GMT
No chance is Gray a QPR player next season.
I don't think Dieng or Willock will be here either.
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Post by alanwycombe on May 14, 2022 16:39:33 GMT
No chance is Gray a QPR player next season. I don't think Dieng or Willock will be here either. Would agree sadly, we have to get money in. |
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Post by Stanley75 on May 14, 2022 16:45:45 GMT
Just to expand on the theme of the thread:
There's been a fair amount of doom and gloom the past few weeks, with many saying they fear for us next season. But to put a positive spin on it, we do actually have a very good spine, as the OP, Corbs and Shania mention. The point being, the right manager has the opportunity to actually progress us and it's a chance to to learn from the mistakes of this season.
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Post by alanwycombe on May 14, 2022 16:55:34 GMT
Just to expand on the theme of the thread: There's been a fair amount of doom and gloom the past few weeks, with many saying they fear for us next season. But to put a positive spin on it, we do actually have a very good spine, as the OP, Corbs and Shania mention. The point being, the right manager has the opportunity to actually progress us and it's a chance to to learn from the mistakes of this season. We need to sign some goals though. Someone has to be clever and come up with someone. |
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Post by Stanley75 on May 14, 2022 16:58:10 GMT
Just to expand on the theme of the thread: There's been a fair amount of doom and gloom the past few weeks, with many saying they fear for us next season. But to put a positive spin on it, we do actually have a very good spine, as the OP, Corbs and Shania mention. The point being, the right manager has the opportunity to actually progress us and it's a chance to to learn from the mistakes of this season. We need to sign some goals though. Someone has to be clever and come up with someone. We have a proven goalscorer in Gray, IF we can keep hold of him. And guess what, the next manager might even have the bright idea of playing him!! 😂 |
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Post by Timmy Doc on May 14, 2022 17:00:49 GMT
I think we'll only have 5-6 (worst) players from that list, including Chair and Dickie. Massive rebuilding needed. But if we can keep Dieng and Willock, I would be much more positive.
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Post by alanwycombe on May 14, 2022 17:00:55 GMT
We need to sign some goals though. Someone has to be clever and come up with someone. We have a proven goalscorer in Gray, IF we can keep hold of him. And guess what, the next manager might even have the bright idea of playing him!! 😂 I suppose it depends on whether or not Watford offer him anything. If they do it’ll be more than us. |
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Post by Stanley75 on May 14, 2022 17:03:37 GMT
I think we'll only have 5-6 (worst) players from that list, including Chair and Dickie. Massive rebuilding needed. Not necessarily a given though? Depending on who the new manager is, certain assurances may be provided to keep the core of the spine, unless silly money is offered. |
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Post by alanwycombe on May 14, 2022 17:05:34 GMT
I think we'll only have 5-6 (worst) players from that list, including Chair and Dickie. Massive rebuilding needed. Not necessarily a given though? Depending on who the new manager is, certain assurances may be given to keep the core of the spine, unless silly money is offered. Yes, only worth money if someone wants to buy them. |
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Post by Timmy Doc on May 14, 2022 17:06:25 GMT
I think we'll only have 5-6 (worst) players from that list, including Chair and Dickie. Massive rebuilding needed. Not necessarily a given though? Depending on who the new manager is, certain assurances may be provided to keep the core of the spine, unless silly money is offered. Edited my original post, hoping we can keep Willock and Dieng. In that case our core spine would be quite promising. |
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Post by Corbray on May 14, 2022 17:10:11 GMT
some players will be off, i suspect chair and dickie even though i bigged them up. i don't think we'll sell dieng as walsh is no where near ready yet.
don't really want gray back personally, he'll want big wages and is 30 years old. would rather we went after someone younger.
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Post by sparks on May 14, 2022 17:21:17 GMT
We have a proven goalscorer in Gray, IF we can keep hold of him. And guess what, the next manager might even have the bright idea of playing him!! 😂 I suppose it depends on whether or not Watford offer him anything. If they do it’ll be more than us. There is a 20 page thread on the Watford forum basically saying Gray is the worst player to ever play for them. I would say hes capable of scoring goals, but the team needs to be set up for him as he offers very little else for the team in the way of holding the ball up or as an aerial threat. I read elsewhere that the board wanted to send him back in the Jan transfer window and if that’s true I doubt if he will be coming back. |
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Post by alanwycombe on May 14, 2022 17:31:56 GMT
I suppose it depends on whether or not Watford offer him anything. If they do it’ll be more than us. There is a 20 page thread on the Watford forum basically saying Gray is the worst player to ever play for them. I would say hes capable of scoring goals, but the team needs to be set up for him as he offers very little else for the team in the way of holding the ball up or as an aerial threat. I read elsewhere that the board wanted to send him back in the Jan transfer window and if that’s true I doubt if he will be coming back. If that’s true MW has been taking the piss since Jan. Didn’t want a striker then doesn’t play the one we had when they wanted to send him back. Bizarre. |
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Post by Timmy Doc on May 14, 2022 17:33:38 GMT
I have always thought Gray is overrated.
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Post by Stanley75 on May 14, 2022 17:35:27 GMT
I would say hes capable of scoring goals, but the team needs to be set up for him Indeed. And he guarantees goals when you do that. I'm not sure what could be more important to any team. But to keep the thread on track, he is only one player (from the core), and yes he would absolutely need replacing if we can't keep him. |
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Post by alanwycombe on May 14, 2022 17:35:59 GMT
I have always thought Gray is overrated. Maybe, but when the options are a fat bloke or a donkey he plays every time. |
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Post by 72bus on May 14, 2022 20:23:05 GMT
We have an excellent spine: Dieng * Dunne Amos Willock Gray ** Johansen *** The right manager could build another team around that lot to challenge again next season * assuming he stays
** assuming he stays and is played
*** assuming he gets his fitness Johansen terrible player , stealing a living] |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on May 14, 2022 21:10:23 GMT
We have an excellent spine: Dieng * Dunne Amos Willock Gray ** Johansen *** The right manager could build another team around that lot to challenge again next season * assuming he stays
** assuming he stays and is played
*** assuming he gets his fitness backYes I think that's right, plus Chair and Dickie as others have mentioned. And if any are sold, all but Johansen (and Gray not ours) they would I hope only go for a decent fee - the challenge is then to find the next Willock etc, rinse and repeat. |
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Post by shepherdsmush on May 17, 2022 16:40:54 GMT
Can't see Willock being here next season. Prime target to raise money from.
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Post by acricketer on May 17, 2022 17:27:50 GMT
On the bright side some nice Saturdays to enjoy.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on May 17, 2022 17:53:25 GMT
We also not been nuked yet
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Post by Ginger Ninja on May 17, 2022 20:14:52 GMT
We also not been nuked yet Always a plus |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on May 17, 2022 22:02:30 GMT
We also not been nuked yet Lot resting on that word “yet”... |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on May 17, 2022 22:04:35 GMT
Higher odds on glowing in the dark this month than us filling manager post.
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Post by Stanley75 on May 23, 2022 9:38:39 GMT
Maybe if some of Willock,Dieng, Dickie or Chair are sold in the upcoming window then Eustace could be seen by the owners as a Caretaker Manager capable of leading the team into pre-season training. Here's Warburton's season finishes with us: 2019/20: 13th 2020/21: 9th 2021-22: 11th His first season he improved on Schteeeve's 19th - progress Second season, further progress finishing 9th. Third season we regressed finishing 11th. But overall, still two steps forward, one step back. Sell Dickie and Chair if we really have to. Both would be a lot easier to replace than Willock and Dieng. If we sell the latter two it makes the prospect of season-on-season progress very much harder. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 16, 2022 12:02:07 GMT
We have a strong spine:Dieng * Dunne Amos Willock Gray ** Johansen *** The right manager could build another team around that lot to challenge again next season * assuming he stays
** assuming he stays and is played
*** assuming he gets his fitness back We still have all these players minus Gray, so things still looking hopeful now we have the new manager. Some on this thread were pessimistic we'd retain Dieng and Willock but with Beale's arrival perhaps there's now more chance of keeping them? Clearly a striker (or two) remains top priority though. |
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