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Post by Bill on Nov 5, 2022 17:00:24 GMT
I know there’s no real reason for him not to be at Ibrox but I saw it in a bad light considering the rapid raised speculation surrounding Van Bronkhorst future there and what looks to me wearing their club tie. It’s rumoured he’s deleted his Twitter account recently which seemed a good idea on paper but to then deliberately put himself back in the public eye with his appearance there is slightly off putting for me. Strange
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Post by Timmy Doc on Nov 5, 2022 18:52:40 GMT
What the hell is going on? We hardly won Wigan who was second from bottom back then. Now we lost to another second from bottom WBA. It's a must win against rock bottom Huddersfield or I'll lose all my positiveness for this season.
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Post by hal9thou on Nov 5, 2022 19:08:30 GMT
What the hell is going on? We hardly won Wigan who was second from bottom back then. Now we lost to another second from bottom WBA. It's a must win against rock bottom Huddersfield or I'll lose all my positiveness for this season. The main problem for any manager at LR is the fact that we don't have any strikers whatsoever, we don't do those, and haven't had a decent one since Chaz mk 1. That means unless you set up to play a false 9 (which we kind of did when we left Dykes out and went 4/3/3) you are always going to be compromised. And that is exactly what is happening right now.
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Post by Timmy Doc on Nov 5, 2022 19:19:22 GMT
True that 9t. Dykes did what he always does. Plays 1-2 good games and everybody thinks now our manager has got the best out of him but then again he disappears for another 10 games.
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Post by James1979 on Nov 5, 2022 20:32:09 GMT
What the hell is going on? We hardly won Wigan who was second from bottom back then. Now we lost to another second from bottom WBA. It's a must win against rock bottom Huddersfield or I'll lose all my positiveness for this season. I don’t think West Brom will be anywhere near the bottom come the end of the season….unlike Wigan. It’s disappointing and 2 of the last 3 results haven’t been great but we are punching above our weight. Win next 2 and have a good break and get likes of Stef back. We’ll be in a great position to kick on.
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Post by jfrabbit on Nov 6, 2022 12:14:45 GMT
What the hell is going on? We hardly won Wigan who was second from bottom back then. Now we lost to another second from bottom WBA. It's a must win against rock bottom Huddersfield or I'll lose all my positiveness for this season. I don’t think West Brom will be anywhere near the bottom come the end of the season….unlike Wigan. It’s disappointing and 2 of the last 3 results haven’t been great but we are punching above our weight. Win next 2 and have a good break and get likes of Stef back. We’ll be in a great position to kick on. You’re right, we are punching above our weight but when we play how we have been & we see our capabilities it’s very very frustrating when we put in below par performances and more alarming the fact they seem to be coming all to regularly now. We’re doing brilliantly this season but I would say we’re in a bit of a rut at the minute which we need to get out of very quickly before we start plummeting down the league.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Nov 6, 2022 12:17:30 GMT
What the hell is going on? We hardly won Wigan who was second from bottom back then. Now we lost to another second from bottom WBA. It's a must win against rock bottom Huddersfield or I'll lose all my positiveness for this season. You've not had positiveness all season 🤣
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Nov 6, 2022 12:18:55 GMT
Saw some absolute whopper on Facebook say Wolves had a lucky escape when Beale turned them down. You can always rely on a few idiots when things start going a bit wrong to pipe up.
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Post by Bill on Nov 6, 2022 12:20:33 GMT
What the hell is going on? We hardly won Wigan who was second from bottom back then. Now we lost to another second from bottom WBA. It's a must win against rock bottom Huddersfield or I'll lose all my positiveness for this season. You've not had positiveness all season 🤣 😂😂😂
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 6, 2022 12:26:28 GMT
What the hell is going on? We hardly won Wigan who was second from bottom back then. Now we lost to another second from bottom WBA. It's a must win against rock bottom Huddersfield or I'll lose all my positiveness for this season. You've not had positiveness all season 🤣 To be fair to Timmy he made a couple here: 😎 If Tim, Willock and Chair stay fit we'll be top 2 this season, no doubt. Bold statement but am inclined to agree. Suspect the Jan window will be pivotal though. Of course the statement requires that Tim's development continues as fast as the last couple of games have shown. Yesterday that first 5-10 minutes when Willock came on was beautiful combination between those three and created lots of space in Norwich defence. New striker in January and we are unstoppable.
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Post by Bill on Nov 6, 2022 12:37:31 GMT
Beale is far too accepting of the ‘they’re only human’ angle - he said at the training ground meeting a couple of months back that there is no point hassling refs and things even out over a season - all of which is bollocks in my book. They need telling when they’re shit. They might know the rules but most of the time they don’t know the game. Get on their case and they might learn. Agree 100%
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 6, 2022 12:46:43 GMT
Beale is far too accepting of the ‘they’re only human’ angle - he said at the training ground meeting a couple of months back that there is no point hassling refs and things even out over a season - all of which is bollocks in my book. They need telling when they’re shit. They might know the rules but most of the time they don’t know the game. Get on their case and they might learn. Agree 100% Perhaps this highlights his inexperience as a head coach. You'd like to think he becomes more canny in that regard over time.
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Post by alanwycombe on Nov 6, 2022 13:13:17 GMT
Perhaps this highlights his inexperience as a head coach. You'd like to think he becomes more canny in that regard over time. Not sure Stan, he strikes me as more Grauniad than Daily Mail😂
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Post by West Acton on Nov 6, 2022 13:17:41 GMT
Perhaps this highlights his inexperience as a head coach. You'd like to think he becomes more canny in that regard over time. he’s been a coach for a while half the people flying off benches for bad decisions are the coaching staff nothing to do with inexperience or position. I think it’s his nature/personality just very reserved.
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Post by Bill on Nov 6, 2022 14:00:02 GMT
Think in championship you need everyone pulling together on and off the pitch. Sometimes you have to kick someone up the arse to get a response during the game.
Very likeable chap but needs to toughen up like some on the pitch.
Officials must think it's Mick Beale he is ok
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Post by hal9thou on Nov 6, 2022 14:28:59 GMT
What the hell is going on? We hardly won Wigan who was second from bottom back then. Now we lost to another second from bottom WBA. It's a must win against rock bottom Huddersfield or I'll lose all my positiveness for this season. we are punching above our weight are we though? I don't think there's much consistent quality in this league at the moment, the 'chute payments division have struggled against poundstretcher opposition. I think there are two problems. One is the tactical one caused by the striker issue which fucks up a lot of things (see above) and the other is that we don't look like we want it enough. Both of those things are sortable, but Mick needs to step up because once they stop playing for you, you got serious problems.
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 6, 2022 15:11:10 GMT
Perhaps this highlights his inexperience as a head coach. You'd like to think he becomes more canny in that regard over time. Not sure Stan, he strikes me as more Grauniad than Daily Mail😂 he’s been a coach for a while half the people flying off benches for bad decisions are the coaching staff nothing to do with inexperience or position. I think it’s his nature/personality just very reserved. Perhaps a fair criticism at this early stage of his head coach career...and concerning if really true. But out of interest, and just to steelman the argument for a moment, can you (or anyone) name any examples of successful managers who don’t harangue the fourth official every time an unfair decision goes against them?
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Post by West Acton on Nov 6, 2022 16:04:31 GMT
Southgate
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Post by alanwycombe on Nov 6, 2022 17:13:23 GMT
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Post by Tarbie on Nov 6, 2022 17:32:15 GMT
He asked for a successful Manager mate! 🤣
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Post by James1979 on Nov 6, 2022 17:33:47 GMT
we are punching above our weight are we though? I don't think there's much consistent quality in this league at the moment, the 'chute payments division have struggled against poundstretcher opposition. I think there are two problems. One is the tactical one caused by the striker issue which fucks up a lot of things (see above) and the other is that we don't look like we want it enough. Both of those things are sortable, but Mick needs to step up because once they stop playing for you, you got serious problems. I think our lack of squad depth and the injuries are starting to tell. The 2 full backs have played non stop pretty much and they are so key and so much better than anything else we have. This break is so important.
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Post by Tarbie on Nov 6, 2022 17:35:08 GMT
Think in championship you need everyone pulling together on and off the pitch. Sometimes you have to kick someone up the arse to get a response during the game. Very likeable chap but needs to toughen up like some on the pitch. Officials must think it's Mick Beale he is ok I've said it a few times Bill. We need someone on that bench in the 4th officials ear and shouting at the ref. The officials in this division are so poor that they can be influenced. I honestly think Warnock's abrasive personality has been worth on average a good 8 to 10 points a season over the years. Even just by whinging his way to a couple of extra minutes added on to find a winner or an equaliser. If Beale doesn't fancy being like that himself, he needs to appoint a "bad cop" in his coaching staff.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Nov 6, 2022 19:24:03 GMT
are we though? I don't think there's much consistent quality in this league at the moment, the 'chute payments division have struggled against poundstretcher opposition. I think there are two problems. One is the tactical one caused by the striker issue which fucks up a lot of things (see above) and the other is that we don't look like we want it enough. Both of those things are sortable, but Mick needs to step up because once they stop playing for you, you got serious problems. I think our lack of squad depth and the injuries are starting to tell. The 2 full backs have played non stop pretty much and they are so key and so much better than anything else we have. This break is so important. Fair as far as it goes. But there was a lack of fight - and that comes from the top. Am sure WBA have their injuries / 3 game a week issue but they looked a yard quicker and about 50 pounds a player stronger
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 7, 2022 7:38:17 GMT
Only watch QPR games these days hence question, but quite surprising if true and would need to address that. Should at least get Damian Matthews onto it rather than just have him sat there
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Nov 7, 2022 7:39:32 GMT
Win some You loose some
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 7, 2022 8:42:25 GMT
Only watch QPR games these days hence question, but quite surprising if true and would need to address that. Should at least get Damian Matthews onto it rather than just have him sat there Should add that Warbs and his team was just as bad in that regard. Always sat glum faced on the drinks box and never in 4th official's ear. So we're at least no worse off there, but if there's a fair criticism so far that would be it.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Nov 7, 2022 8:50:11 GMT
He may be quiet but I wouldn’t want a Nathan jones type either
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Post by alanwycombe on Nov 7, 2022 9:00:47 GMT
He may be quiet but I wouldn’t want a Nathan jones type either Agree, but Beale too far in the other direction.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Nov 7, 2022 9:12:27 GMT
Sometimes silence is enough
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Post by West Acton on Nov 7, 2022 9:59:46 GMT
Only watch QPR games these days hence question, but quite surprising if true and would need to address that. Should at least get Damian Matthews onto it rather than just have him sat there Should add that Warbs and his team was just as bad in that regard. Always sat glum faced on the drinks box and never in 4th official's ear. So we're at least no worse off there, but if there's a fair criticism so far that would be it. really?Warburton and Eustace were constantly in the 4th officials and linos ear, Eustace spent most games stood beside the official. They never done it in Warnock way but they were aware of their presence. Defo don’t want Beale like jones that’s an extreme to far
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