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Post by sparks on Jan 27, 2024 19:40:18 GMT
I read an interview with Beale when he first joined Sunderland. Banfield and his set piece coach Harry Watling and Damian Mathew were not allowed to join him initially by Sunderland owner Dreyfus but was promised that the club would possibly review that decision at a later date if his initial appointment turned out to be sucessful. Beale said at the end of his article that the Dreyfus did not want him bringing in players either as it was considered to be the current DOF domain only, this was explained by Beale as one of the main reason why Tony Mowbray was sacked as he wanted more input on incoming players and went public on it. Given his track record not surprising really but why roll the dice on Beale ? They must think he’s a good Coach like I do. I watched some of his GR games and they were unfortunate on some occasions but generally played entertaining football. I watched his video interview yesterday and thought he batted off most of the press questions very well except for his remark about working in London. Reading the Sunderland forum a couple of weeks ago Pritchard had angry words with Beale during a Championship game. Karma has definitely come back to bite him recently but I still expect him to be a successful Coach at a bigger club than Sunderland. |
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Post by Corbray on Jan 27, 2024 20:44:46 GMT
i'm in scotland atm with my ex visiting the in laws so sadly won't make the game tomorrow  . her side are all big rangers fans and they couldn't stand the eel. started off well according to them, he said all the right things but it all quickly unraveled and ended in tears. lots of fraction within the squad and players turning against eachother which he did nothing to fix. he had his favourites and ignored the others. from a professional standpoint he has to regret leaving us. he had the world at his feet here and a platform to learn and develop as a manager. none of us would have been angry at him had he left after 2 or so seasons to step into a bigger job as we all understood his ambitions - he however let his ambitious nature get the best of him and it has helped ruin his reputation and standing as a manager. everyone knows him as a shit talker and a liar who can't be trusted. he won't last at sunderland and imo needs to go abroad to rebuild himself. i do think he's a very good coach, his time with us is among the most exciting and optimistic football i've personally seen in years. his ego is out of whack and no one will give him the time of day. |
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Post by West Acton on Jan 28, 2024 7:31:57 GMT
In fairness to him they have not even given him a chance there so it really is a matter of time. The truth is he was not half as good as some of our fans made out but equally he’s not as bad as Sunderland fans are portraying.
He’s a young inexperienced manager who had potential but appears to have driven his career of a cliff unnecessarily. As someone said whatever the final outcome in management he’s going be comfortable.
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Post by 2Loftus on Jan 29, 2024 8:35:58 GMT
In fairness to him they have not even given him a chance there so it really is a matter of time. The truth is he was not half as good as some of our fans made out but equally he’s not as bad as Sunderland fans are portraying. He’s a young inexperienced manager who had potential but appears to have driven his career of a cliff unnecessarily. As someone said whatever the final outcome in management he’s going be comfortable. Much as I’m enjoying the flak he got at Rangers and now Sunderland, he’ll be fine career-wise long term. Fully expect him to be decent Championship-level if not higher as he gets more experience. |
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Post by West Acton on Jan 29, 2024 9:07:35 GMT
In fairness to him they have not even given him a chance there so it really is a matter of time. The truth is he was not half as good as some of our fans made out but equally he’s not as bad as Sunderland fans are portraying. He’s a young inexperienced manager who had potential but appears to have driven his career of a cliff unnecessarily. As someone said whatever the final outcome in management he’s going be comfortable. Much as I’m enjoying the flak he got at Rangers and now Sunderland, he’ll be fine career-wise long term. Fully expect him to be decent Championship-level if not higher as he gets more experience. he would have been but I fear his reputation and credibility will be tarnished beyond recovery when he leaves there. Like clement , another person who had big rep for working with kids and being forward thinking coach, he will fade back into being a coach if he wanted to stay in the game. |
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Post by jfrabbit on Jan 29, 2024 9:48:26 GMT
To be fair to Clement, he was actually number 2 to Ancelotti at Real Madrid, Chelsea, PSG, and Bayern Munich. You don’t get any bigger than that.
He got illusions of grandeur wanting to be the decision maker.
Why don’t these people just know their place and enjoy the ride working with the best players at the best facilities staying at the best hotels and getting paid for it.
I really don’t get this wanting to be the manager thing when they are successful coaches.
Brian Kidd a good example. Do what you do best, coaching, keep your head down and enjoy the ride at massive clubs.
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Post by 2Loftus on Jan 29, 2024 10:18:28 GMT
Much as I’m enjoying the flak he got at Rangers and now Sunderland, he’ll be fine career-wise long term. Fully expect him to be decent Championship-level if not higher as he gets more experience. he would have been but I fear his reputation and credibility will be tarnished beyond recovery when he leaves there. Like clement , another person who had big rep for working with kids and being forward thinking coach, he will fade back into being a coach if he wanted to stay in the game. Maybe - I just think he is SO full of bullshit, is utterly shameless about talking himself up, is very persuasive - and apparently gives a very good PowerPoint show  I think he will always be able to persuade (some) over-ambitious, gullible, clueless or desperate owners that he is the answer to their prayers. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 29, 2024 10:47:38 GMT
Do QPR have a history of ruining managers careers, where they had been either successful or up-and-coming before joining us?
McClaren, Ainsworth, Holloway, Hasselbaink, Warburton, Beale, Critchley (almost), Hughes, Magilton, Sousa, Dowie.
The exception in recent times is Warnock.
Hopefully we'll be able to say the same for Marti...
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Post by Corbray on Jan 29, 2024 11:05:24 GMT
To be fair to Clement, he was actually number 2 to Ancelotti at Real Madrid, Chelsea, PSG, and Bayern Munich. You don’t get any bigger than that. He got illusions of grandeur wanting to be the decision maker. Why don’t these people just know their place and enjoy the ride working with the best players at the best facilities staying at the best hotels and getting paid for it. I really don’t get this wanting to be the manager thing when they are successful coaches. Brian Kidd a good example. Do what you do best, coaching, keep your head down and enjoy the ride at massive clubs. bob paisley and jose mourinho both started out as assistants. i think its natural to be ambitious, most people rate themselves higher at things than they actually are. take clement as the prime example, he was a coach at some of the worlds biggest clubs so that would certainly inflate your ego. everyone he worked with from players to fellow staff would have been telling him how good he was at his job so he took the next step. idk what you work as but i work as a gardener, i'm passionate about my job but i struggled initially. all i wanted to do was learn how to stripe grass and cut hedges nice and crisply. 14 years on and now i have qualifications out my ears and have branched out into consultation in my company. thats probably the limit of where i'll get in my career as the next step would be large scale garden design which i have no real interest in but who knows, i might get worn down from physical work and want something a bit easier. we always set ourselves new targets once we've ticked the last one off. |
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Post by jfrabbit on Jan 29, 2024 11:13:12 GMT
Fair enough.
Me personally I’ve always been the same in wanting to earn as much as I can for doing as little work as I can which I do now.
I’m not a an extremely ambitious person. I’ve been offered significantly higher paid jobs where I am now but have declined because one I’m happy doing what I do, which is literally fuck all and two my happiness and stress free roster, job & down time suits me better than more money and more problems, but we all tick differently.
Being a manager is a hell of a lot more workload and stress than being a coach. You literally have to put people through a training session and put an arm around them.
We’re all different 🤷🏻♂️
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Post by 2Loftus on Jan 29, 2024 11:35:05 GMT
Fair enough. Me personally I’ve always been the same in wanting to earn as much as I can for doing as little work as I can which I do now. I’m not a an extremely ambitious person. I’ve been offered significantly higher paid jobs where I am now but have declined because one I’m happy doing what I do, which is literally fuck all and two my happiness and stress free roster, job & down time suits me better than more money and more problems, but we all tick differently. Being a manager is a hell of a lot more workload and stress than being a coach. You literally have to put people through a training session and put an arm around them. We’re all different 🤷🏻♂️ Can empathise with that philosophy  |
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Post by jfrabbit on Jan 29, 2024 11:40:59 GMT
Fair enough. Me personally I’ve always been the same in wanting to earn as much as I can for doing as little work as I can which I do now. I’m not a an extremely ambitious person. I’ve been offered significantly higher paid jobs where I am now but have declined because one I’m happy doing what I do, which is literally fuck all and two my happiness and stress free roster, job & down time suits me better than more money and more problems, but we all tick differently. Being a manager is a hell of a lot more workload and stress than being a coach. You literally have to put people through a training session and put an arm around them. We’re all different 🤷🏻♂️ Can empathise with that philosophy Basically I’m a lazy bastard 😂 |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 29, 2024 11:46:47 GMT
Don't think it's lazy Jimmy. Nothing wrong (and plenty good) with prioritising a less stressful life and having more time for friends, family and leisure pursuits! IOW the things in life that really matter, give meaning to and create happy memories |
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Post by jfrabbit on Jan 29, 2024 11:55:34 GMT
Don't think it's lazy Jimmy. Nothing wrong (and plenty good) with prioritising a less stressful life and having more time for friends, family and leisure pursuits! IOW the things in life that really matter, give meaning to and create happy memories Hundred percent mate. Everyone wants more money. I understand that, but you have to weigh that up with being happy, the stress of life, time, experiences and all the rest of it so finding that balance is quite nice. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 29, 2024 12:01:46 GMT
Indeed. Plenty of rich but miserable and stressed people out there who don't get the balance right.
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Post by jfrabbit on Jan 29, 2024 12:54:08 GMT
Indeed. Plenty of rich but miserable and stressed people out there who don't get the balance right. Some very close friends I could put in that category. Workaholics, minted but constantly stressed, never see their kids & always moaning. I find with wealthy people also, they never know when to say that’s me done. However rich they seem to be. |
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Post by acricketer on Feb 4, 2024 23:26:23 GMT
Indeed. Plenty of rich but miserable and stressed people out there who don't get the balance right. Some very close friends I could put in that category. Workaholics, minted but constantly stressed, never see their kids & always moaning. I find with wealthy people also, they never know when to say that’s me done. However rich they seem to be. I have a couple wealthy friends who never have to work again. They are solid citizens and very happy. Generous to a fault and good company. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 5, 2024 7:37:32 GMT
I will work till I drop, not because have to but because I want to. Need to be active everyday, and some weeks do 14 -15?days in a row, always work 6 days a week. Being retired would bore me to death.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Feb 5, 2024 9:05:56 GMT
I will work till I drop, not because have to but because I want to. Need to be active everyday, and some weeks do 14 -15?days in a row, always work 6 days a week. Being retired would bore me to death. That's what I'm actively gonna avoid when I retire, I'll be making sure I'm out doing something most days, whether it's joining some kind of club (golf or something) or doing some part time work. I've had a couple of old mates who have retired over the years and within 6 months to a year have dropped dead where they have gone from working solidly for 30-40 years to doing nothing at all. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 5, 2024 9:13:39 GMT
Best thing about being retired is you can CHOOSE - do something or not.
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Post by Greg1882 on Feb 5, 2024 10:03:57 GMT
I will work till I drop, not because have to but because I want to. Need to be active everyday, and some weeks do 14 -15?days in a row, always work 6 days a week. Being retired would bore me to death. That's what I'm actively gonna avoid when I retire, I'll be making sure I'm out doing something most days, whether it's joining some kind of club (golf or something) or doing some part time work. I've had a couple of old mates who have retired over the years and within 6 months to a year have dropped dead where they have gone from working solidly for 30-40 years to doing nothing at all. Exactly that mate. I’m well into my fishing and photography so that will keep me active. I know a few that have stopped and dropped. One in Particular was very fit, didn’t really drink, didn’t smoke and was really excited about his retirement. Was dead within a month. Very sad after all that graft |
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Post by Corbray on Feb 5, 2024 10:04:02 GMT
retirement is when you can finally do things that you've always wanted to do - so long as you have the money of course. i pay into 2 different pensions coz i wanna be able to do stuff when the government permits me to finally retire at 86.
fuck knows what hobby i'll do, i've always liked the idea of beekeeping and blacksmithing so maybe i'll start there
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 5, 2024 10:23:16 GMT
It’s a cliche, but you will be surprised you had time to work. Amazing what you cram into your life when you’re young.
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Post by Bill on Feb 5, 2024 21:16:40 GMT
retirement is when you can finally do things that you've always wanted to do - so long as you have the money of course. i pay into 2 different pensions coz i wanna be able to do stuff when the government permits me to finally retire at 86. fuck knows what hobby i'll do, i've always liked the idea of beekeeping and blacksmithing so maybe i'll start there And health |
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Post by jfrabbit on Feb 14, 2024 22:44:13 GMT
Useless cunt.
Fuck off.
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Post by 2Loftus on Feb 17, 2024 19:30:50 GMT
Lovely to see former Sunderland boss beat the bastard Beale.
Beale the eel even tried slipping off the hook by saying, “As me and Tony have both said, Sunderland need to improve away” (or words to that effect). Ie, “It’s not MY fault…”
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Post by MattyRangers on Feb 18, 2024 0:31:25 GMT
Lovely to see former Sunderland boss beat the bastard Beale. Beale the eel even tried slipping off the hook by saying, “As me and Tony have both said, Sunderland need to improve away” (or words to that effect). Ie, “It’s not MY fault…” Fat moley cunt |
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 18, 2024 0:48:10 GMT
After another pay off
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Post by 1qprdk on Feb 18, 2024 2:39:32 GMT
Poor form that.
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Post by The General on Feb 18, 2024 20:15:06 GMT
Sunderland fans all want Beale out already
They fucking hate him
Charma s a bitch 🤣🤣🤣
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